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Revenue from motorists

  • 08-12-2009 2:15pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    Im curios as to how much revenue is taken in from motor tax, vrt and tax on fuel, also wondering is there any other major soource of income from the motorist. Does anyone know where to find these figures, i presume there is a public record of it..

    Cheers,

    Rowan


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭I.S.T.


    rowanh wrote: »
    Hi,

    Im curios as to how much revenue is taken in from motor tax, vrt and tax on fuel, also wondering is there any other major soource of income from the motorist. Does anyone know where to find these figures, i presume there is a public record of it..

    Cheers,

    Rowan

    They take in a fair few quid from speed cameras, 177,549 fines issued last year at €80 each = 14.2 million


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,118 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    rowanh wrote: »
    how much revenue is taken in from motor tax, vrt and tax on fuel

    A lot less than last year which was less than the year before. The last figure I know for VRT was over either '06 or '07 and it was 2.2 billion. This year I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't even be a billion...
    rowanh wrote: »
    motor tax, vrt and tax on fuel, also wondering is there any other major soource of income from the motorist.

    The major one you are missing is the VAT: on the car and the fuel and even on the VRT, although that one works the other way around :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    Tax on suspension repairs and ripped tyres:D

    I'd love to know what every motorist contributes to the govt per € spent on motoring.

    There would be riots. And there should be riots. No chance of the media doing there job either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Long Onion


    Insurance premium tax - levied on all insurance policies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    BIK on all company cars to add on as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭rowanh


    Right so there are lots of taxes, i was lead to believe that motor tax, vrt and the tax on fuel was around 4bn a year, anyone have any idea how to find out if this is accurate?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    It's huge. VAT/VRT on cars, excise duty and VAT on fuel, VAT on parts and repairs.

    It was over €4billion all in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    cantdecide wrote: »
    I'd love to know what every motorist contributes to the govt per € spent on motoring.
    There was something about this going around a few years ago - the direct tax bill was is in the region of 60% including excise duty, VRT, VAT, levy on insurance, road tax etc...

    It goes up even further if you include what you actually earned gross vs what you spend on motoring and the income tax / corporation tax paid by the motor trade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭ART6


    rowanh wrote: »
    Hi,

    Im curios as to how much revenue is taken in from motor tax, vrt and tax on fuel, also wondering is there any other major soource of income from the motorist. Does anyone know where to find these figures, i presume there is a public record of it..

    Cheers,

    Rowan

    I'm with the OP. I would dearly love to find such information, but I am cynical enough to know that the government will hide that under one huge bushel. We are not supposed to know just how much they bleed from us, and they hide it by stealth taxes, taxes on taxes, and every other immoral and (for anyone else) fraudulent mechanisms they can think of.

    What I would love to know is what someone would pay if he bought a new car and ran it for three years, doing (say) 20k miles a year to go to work, 50% on a tolled road, and using fuel at an average rate of (say) 40 MPG. Include in that the insurance levy and the vehicle tax etc etc.

    Maybe we should all write to out TDs asking this question -- Oh but no, they won't ask that in the Dáil because they might be in government sooner or later and the gravy train could be endangered.

    Welcome to the rip off republic Irish democracy;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    The carbon Tax to be announced tomorrow will rake it in too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭rebel.ranter


    Is there any mention of Road Tax rate changes? I have not heard anything but are we likely to get a surprise, or is the carbon tax seen as enough of a sting on the motorist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭knifey_spoonie


    Have a look here

    Link to simi, listing tax revenues from motor sources 06/07

    TOTALS

    2006 5564.2(MILLION)
    2007 6014.8(MILLION)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    I predict 20c on litre of fuel, and 20% hike in motor tax. And €10.00 levy on NCT. A 10% reduction in VRT on cars from 2010 on.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,209 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    I predict 20c on litre of fuel, and 20% hike in motor tax. And €10.00 levy on NCT. A 10% reduction in VRT on cars from 2010 on.
    20c on fuel??? Nobody would be able to drive and there would be a net decrease in revenue. Less people driving may suit Gormless but not Lenihan.
    IIRC the NCT price is held within the legislation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,118 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    It was over €4billion all in.

    Until the greens screwed up and told us to scrap our trusted old petrols and to buy new diesels instead. Gormless seems to think this is better for "the environment" although cancer will be on the increase because of it :rolleyes:

    The recession obviously didn't make it any better. Wonder how much of that 4 billion is left?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,209 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    unkel wrote: »
    Until the greens screwed up and told us to scrap our trusted old petrols and to buy new diesels instead. Gormless seems to think this is better for "the environment" although cancer will be on the increase because of it :rolleyes:
    ...not to mention the noise pollution from having more tractors on the road! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    Of course we wonder why they used emmissions based vrt. The answer is that they'll have other plans for CCs and more for fuel and more still for road tax. The lesson is never show your hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭rowanh


    Have a look here

    Link to simi, listing tax revenues from motor sources 06/07

    TOTALS

    2006 5564.2(MILLION)
    2007 6014.8(MILLION)

    Thanks, that is exactly what i was looking for, i think this is kind of shocking! Well more what i expected than shocking..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    kbannon wrote: »
    20c on fuel??? Nobody would be able to drive and there would be a net decrease in revenue. Less people driving may suit Gormless but not Lenihan.
    IIRC the NCT price is held within the legislation.

    It was 30c more expensive last year...................


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,209 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Its about 120c now - when was it about 150c?


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