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Sheamus Title Shot at TLC

  • 08-12-2009 11:04am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭


    So heres a poll to see what you think the outcome of Sundays Tables Match between Sheamus & Cena.

    What will be the outcome of Sheamus's title match at TLC 65 votes

    He wins the match and the belt
    0% 0 votes
    He loses the match clean
    21% 14 votes
    he loses the match unclean and the feud continues
    40% 26 votes
    he is squashed
    24% 16 votes
    He wins the match but loses the belt back to Cena that same night
    13% 9 votes


Comments

  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,402 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    No poll :confused:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,955 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Nody wrote: »
    No poll :confused:

    I just added one for the OP, if you (The Bull) want it changed (the options to vote on etc) let me know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,914 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think he'll lose it clean but I can see him and Cena fighting at the Royal Rumble again.

    That being said, I'd prefer it if Sheamus won, retained at Royal Rumble, then lost it in Elimination Chamber


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭The Bull


    I just added one for the OP, if you (The Bull) want it changed (the options to vote on etc) let me know

    Thanks i was just preparing the poll there but it said it could not create a second one. You pretty much hit it on the nail with the options i was going to put in. Ok vote away i guess, thanks BH.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭TheCandystripes


    Orton is going to run in and cost Cena the match, setting up a triple threat at royal rumble.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,402 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Orton is going to run in and cost Cena the match, setting up a triple threat at royal rumble.
    Hoping for this but believe clean loss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭waltersobchak


    if Sheamus does lose id like to see it in a way that, at least doesnt make him look weak like a double DQ where both of them fall through a table at the same time or something like that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    I think he will lose clean


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭TheBigEvil


    Can see Seamus losing this, but I recon it wont be a clean match. There is bound to be outside interference in this, and you know what..I hope there is. This could be a good feud, even if Orton or whoever interferes.

    He is getting a massive push from the WWE by putting so much on him. And he's finally getting some heat from the crowd.

    They finally have someone, and its been a while, that was a heel and is taking the boos from Cena, and Cena is gettign cheered.

    I hope he continue to gets pushed after sunday, where I cant see him getting the title...just too early for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,534 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    it'll be a la Umaga a couple of years ago.

    Sheamus to dominate, but Cena to show his fighting spirit and eek out a result.

    rematch at the Rumble, resulting in a more decisive victory for Cena.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭waltersobchak


    SlickRic wrote: »
    it'll be a la Umaga a couple of years ago.

    Sheamus to dominate, but Cena to show his fighting spirit and eek out a result.

    rematch at the Rumble, resulting in a more decisive victory for Cena.

    so Classic Cena then? sounds about right..


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,402 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    so Classic Cena then? sounds about right..
    I'm sure we can take it up one more notch by having Cena taken out on a stretcher due to a power bomb or similar and have Sheamus DQed for it. Then we can have a stretcher match and have the whole "Sheamus is a beast hurting people" going on while Cena shows his Superman skill by wrestling "hurt" leading up to it. Throw in some one working on his leg/arm "right before Rumble!" to follow standard WWF script :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭HorseRadish


    I can see something like a ref bump,Sheamus puts Cena through a table but no ref,then SuperCena gets the win,the next night on Raw,Sheamus decimates some US Army Troops in the front row...which sets up the rematch at the Rumble nicely....one can dream eh? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭Degag


    It would be pretty terrible booking to build Seamus up like the WWE have and have him lose clean IMO. If it was any other time of the year i could see Seamus winning the belt but it's this time of the year that fueds for Mania are made and i can't see him being in the title frame for that.

    Losing it in the Elimination Chamber wouldn't make too much sense either as it would give the 'E only a month to build up a new fued for the new champion in a period in which historically they start fueds at the Rumble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,260 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Sheamus winning would allow them to set up a lot of different angles. Such as Cena vs Undertaker at WM, Orton vs Ted (Orton or Ted wins title from Sheamus).
    Few other things they could push off with too.

    Saying that, I think Cena retains.

    They way they have set it up, Cena would have to be put through a table (beaten once) and pinned (beaten twice) and I don't see Cena losing twice on the same PPV, while also meaning he shouldn't get another shot at Sheamus. Unless Cena is heading off to do some filming soon (think i read something about starting filming for a new movie soon) so they could injure him off the air for a month or so.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,955 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    for some reason I see Sheamus vs Cena the rematch at The Rumble, dont know wether its because a lot of big names will be in the rumble and the main events might be not two regular main eventers ala when it was Cena vs Umaga. However i still dont expect Sheamus to win, so an unclean loss for me. Now that is an unusual situation as it would be the face getting the unclean win so it wont be through him disqualifying himself or cheating so i could envisage something like Horseradish suggested i.e a Ref bump,Sheamus putting Cena through a table but the ref misses it then Cena puts big red through a table for the win. I dont envisage Orton setting up a triple threat for the Rumble either as his i cant have a title shot while Cena is the champ is indicitive of a WWE storyline for someone who will be looking to win the royal rumble match not the title match at the rumble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    I'm still going to go with the spoiler from RAW a couple of weeks ago when Cena said that if he loses at TLC he will have his re match at TLC......But something tells me that Orton will interfere in the re-match and Sheamus will hold onto the belt until RAW where he loses it or becomes embroiled in a triple threat match with Cena and Orton(Orton wins and Cena heads to Smackdown).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭TheCandystripes


    super-rush wrote: »
    I'm still going to go with the spoiler from RAW a couple of weeks ago when Cena said that if he loses at TLC he will have his re match at TLC......But something tells me that Orton will interfere in the re-match and Sheamus will hold onto the belt until RAW where he loses it or becomes embroiled in a triple threat match with Cena and Orton(Orton wins and Cena heads to Smackdown).

    Then in 2 years Cena returns to a new edgier RAW as a heel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Paulegend


    could it just be something as simple as Seamus wins

    cena cashes in his "rematch" straight away. orton interferes(i know it was mentioned above) seamus retains.

    orton then looks for a title shot against seamus bypassing the stipulation that he doesnt get another shot against cena


    that way cena can have time off for the new movie



    does that not make sense???:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,914 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Degag wrote: »
    Losing it in the Elimination Chamber wouldn't make too much sense either as it would give the 'E only a month to build up a new fued for the new champion in a period in which historically they start fueds at the Rumble.

    In a way I agree, but then again, last year saw both titles change in the Elimination Chamber matches. Edge lost the WWE title to Triple H, then Edge won the WHC title from Cena. Thing is, there's a longer buildup to Wrestlemania than other PPVS, usually 5 or 6 weeks I think. Most PPVs only get 3/4 weeks. Besides, if Sheamus lost the WWE title in the EC match, it probably wouldn't be the WM main event anyway. The winner of the Royal Rumble could decide to face the WHC champion in the main event at WM. So the WWE title match wouldn't need as much of a build-up


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,955 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    thats the thing about sheamus just getting a rematch and not the title at the rumble, then he can be kept strong by staying in the main event match at the next PPV cos it is a multi-man EC, and after that he can be in MITB maybe. IF done right, even if Cena beats him twice, he could get established by this push (if he does well) simply because of the amount of big match exposure he could get out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭Memnoch99


    Well he looked like a complete clown on Raw when Cuban shoved him, I thought that was a stupid idea on someones behalf.

    I said a few weeks ago when Cena was against Punk that the top rope FU (no way am I calling the pg friendly name) was made to do through a table. So I bet on for a Cena win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭SASR


    Memnoch99 wrote: »
    Well he looked like a complete clown on Raw when Cuban shoved him, I thought that was a stupid idea on someones behalf.
    Yeah, I thought it was a but iffy, but then Cuban got blemmed through a table in return, so it paid off in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    Wow. It wasnt that long ago I seen him in a community centre in front of 40 odd people then I see him on ecw, raw, and now been mentioned in the same sentence as wwe title and royal rumble. He deserves all he gets cause even when he was doing the small shows he gave 100% and always carried himself professionally. Great to see it.
    I havent got sky at all where i am but must try to catch some streams.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    thats the thing about sheamus just getting a rematch and not the title at the rumble, then he can be kept strong by staying in the main event match at the next PPV cos it is a multi-man EC, and after that he can be in MITB maybe. IF done right, even if Cena beats him twice, he could get established by this push (if he does well) simply because of the amount of big match exposure he could get out of it.

    Completely agree. Been saying this from the start. There's tons of ways he can emerge from the match looking great, without having to be victim of a premature title run. And his success in 2010 will all be determined by the follow up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    SlickRic wrote: »
    it'll be a la Umaga a couple of years ago.

    Sheamus to dominate, but Cena to show his fighting spirit and eek out a result.

    rematch at the Rumble, resulting in a more decisive victory for Cena.
    Unfortunately, this is the way I see things going down.

    Cena is the WWE's version of a boy band (attempted by the WCW with Three count back in the day), and he brings in the teenage and pre-pubescent girl cash.
    There's lots of disposable income there and Vince knows it. He's not going to let his cash cow lose to a pasty white Irish man.

    Sheamus is akin to Kane in my eyes.
    He doesn't have the looks, but he does have the vicious streak.
    He may win the title at some stage, but it won't be from Cena, unless Cena is off to make another sequel to the Marine.

    DX are going to win the tag titles, so that's HHH sorted for a title and out of the race for Cena's belt (and it is Cena's belt, much like it was Hogan's, Hart's and HHH's through the years).

    Paulegend wrote: »
    could it just be something as simple as Seamus wins

    cena cashes in his "rematch" straight away. orton interferes(i know it was mentioned above) seamus retains.

    orton then looks for a title shot against seamus bypassing the stipulation that he doesnt get another shot against cena


    that way cena can have time off for the new movie



    does that not make sense???:D

    That does make a lot of sense to me and is something I would like to see happening.

    Now I'm off to write an e-mail to the WWE over Cole's remark on RAW about Ireland being part of the U.K.
    This is more of a personal thing though.
    I let him off with calling Na Fianna "the fee onna", but I can't let this one go.
    Personal crusades rule.

    So does Sheamus and his Scott Hall finisher.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    so Classic Cena then? sounds about right..

    If Classic Cena was the standard of those 2 matches he'd be considered one of the best workers of the decade. Those two matches are underated classics and this isn't one of those posthumous love in things.

    I think he'll lose clean after a strong showing. The F-U is made for an out of nowhere tables match finish. Do think they'll keep it going to the Rumble though.

    Edit: The only two things I can see working in Seamus' favour is that it is a tables match meaning that they can have Cena lose without pinning him which is a great way to set him up for WM without having him lose too much credibility by getting pinned by Seamus. It's quite easy to lose a tables match unluckily looking the strongest in the match like getting wipped into one in the turnbuckle. The fact it's the Rumble next helps him as well because the Rumble doesn't draw on it's title matches meaning a Seamus title defense wouldn't hurt it. It's the only PPV where they could risk something like that. Personally, I think it's worth the risk but i can't see it happening


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Tricity Bendix


    Head says no, heart says yes. I'm going with the heart.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭ibFoxer


    I read somewhere during the eek that at the "tribute to the troops" taping, the main event was Cena vs Sheamus, in which neither carried the belt to the ring but Cena cut a promo saying something like "when i get my rematch".... interestingly the tribute show is due to air 6 days AFTER TLC.

    IMHO i hink they have Sheamus built up so fast that he will win. Cant say im disappointed, opens up for the oft spoken Cena/Taker programme for mania, and allows for the lesser spoken Trips/Sheamus programme. Could be way off the mark though, but i think Trips and HBK are heading to mania as singles competitors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    foxerv1 wrote: »
    I read somewhere during the eek that at the "tribute to the troops" taping, the main event was Cena vs Sheamus, in which neither carried the belt to the ring but Cena cut a promo saying something like "when i get my rematch".... interestingly the tribute show is due to air 6 days AFTER TLC.

    IMHO i hink they have Sheamus built up so fast that he will win. Cant say im disappointed, opens up for the oft spoken Cena/Taker programme for mania, and allows for the lesser spoken Trips/Sheamus programme. Could be way off the mark though, but i think Trips and HBK are heading to mania as singles competitors.
    Check the |Tribute to the \Troops (Spoilers) posted !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭G-Money


    I'll be surprised if Sheamus wins. He's sort of appeared out of nowhere and immediately being pushed into a title match with Cena. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but I'm not sure where the logic is. Or why he's all of a sudden in a main event.

    If Sheamus wins, don't expect him to keep the belt for long. I suspect Cena will get the victory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Sheamus will get FU'ed through a table and lose the match. I promise!

    But maybe he'll get another go at RR. It's not like WWE has any new contenders up their sleeves ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    I hope SOS wins. Nice to see a change in the title picture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Paulegend


    #################SPOILER##################

    i have a dream. and in this dream...........................................................
    Sheamy wins. Cena gets time off for movie commitments. Cena returns at the rumble and wins. then goes on to fight Taker at Wrestlemania. Sheamy Fueds with Orton but DiBiase screws Orton during the Orton vs Sheamus match at the rumble. Sheamus retains. Orton and Dibiase fued til Wrestlemania. Sheamus fights either HHH or HBK.


    i hope this dream comes true:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Off The Ball on Newstalk said they are going to do a spot on Sheamus and the match at TLC tonight. Now it might just turn into a piss take but who knows. They didn't say what time it will feature but it will be between 7 and 9 tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,561 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    There was a little write up also in todays Irish Star about it

    ******



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Paulegend


    super-rush wrote: »
    Off The Ball on Newstalk said they are going to do a spot on Sheamus and the match at TLC tonight. Now it might just turn into a piss take but who knows. They didn't say what time it will feature but it will be between 7 and 9 tonight.


    how did it go. im listening to newstalk now so obviously missed the part on sheamus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Paulegend wrote: »
    how did it go. im listening to newstalk now so obviously missed the part on sheamus

    Badly, basically they said they couldn't find anyone qualified to talk about Sheamus :rolleyes: They then started taking the piss and called the Wrestler a documentary. I emailed them some IWW info but they ignored it. I'm not surprised to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭TheCandystripes


    I really hate those off the ball *****.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    I'm afraid if its not soccer or rugby then you're wasting your time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭G-Money


    super-rush wrote: »
    I'm afraid if its not soccer or rugby then you're wasting your time.

    Which is ironic as both soccer and rugby ARE a waste of time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    OK I need to rant about the general media!

    It annoys me how the non-wrestling community treat/view wrestling. I don't **** on them watching mindless drivel like X-Factor, but we get stick for liking sports entertainment? Just because it's not to your particular taste, that it must have no value and must be ridiculed? Same goes for film crickets who only like films which involve people coming to terms with (insert ailment/addiction/loss here) :mad::mad:

    For example, why would some stuck-up, condescending prick review a horror film? Wouldn't someone who LIKES HORROR FILMS be a better bloody critic? Go back to the English Patient! Don't get me F'N started on how they view videogames too! They're still stuck on "the new fangled videogame contraption called the Wii, to try get people out of the basement and stop playing Atari"

    ...and that's why I don't read the newspaper! **** the general media. My passions are niche but I don't appreciate the ignorance around those with a direct line to the general public!

    Sorry, needed to vent there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Paulegend


    Which is ironic as both soccer and rugby ARE a waste of time :)

    woo woo wooo contrevershal there. now now there is no need to be saying stuff like that:eek:

    soccer and rugby are far from a waste of time. they are competitive sports where the outcome is not planned. they are real man sports and not the drama theatre that is wrestling(not a dig at wrestling as i love wrestling. just a comparison)


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