Neighbours parking

ocizeus

Does anyone else have problems with neighbours parking and what have you done?
Neighbours on the street adjacent to ours constantly park in the spot outside our house. There address isn't even the same street. It's very annoying parking far away with the baby getting soaked in this weather.

Padraig Mor

You don't own the spot outside your house. Annoying it may be, but they can park there if they like, unless it's assigned parking etc.

Berty

Street = Public(in most cases)

A Baby getting wet does not form the basis for even the vaguest of civil disputes.

Unless you actually have a designated space and a developer or parking company manages it then there is nothing you can do, legally that is.

Anan1

Padraig Mor wrote: »

You don't own the spot outside your house. Annoying it may be, but they can park there if they like, unless it's assigned parking etc.

Quite true. Although the OP could try explaining the situation with the baby and asking them whether it would be possible for them to park elsewhere.

ocizeus

6 other neighbours have the same problem with them. The spaces aren't allocated with numbers but a Gard told us it may be possible to get together and take it to a court.

Anan1

ocizeus wrote: »

6 other neighbours have the same problem with them. The spaces aren't allocated with numbers but a Gard told us it may be possible to get together and take it to a court.

Are these spaces on a public road? If so they belong to the public and any member of the public is fully entitled to park there.

ocizeus

no they are car parking spaces on housing estate but the spaces don't have numbers on them, even tho everyone else parks in their own space. Might have the odd visitor parking in the space but these people leave the car their for weeks sometimes.

GavRedKing

As said above, if its a public road then unfortunately there is nothing you can do other then ask them to move and explain why.

Anan1

ocizeus wrote: »

no they are car parking spaces on housing estate but the spaces don't have numbers on them, even tho everyone else parks in their own space. Might have the odd visitor parking in the space but these people leave the car their for weeks sometimes.

That's a public road, so. You could try talking to them, but be very careful not to imply that the space is in any way 'yours'. Remember you have no rights here, you're hoping for a gesture of goodwill. Good luck.

ocizeus

Can't wait to move. Prob in ten years when we are out of negative equity.

smash

Just go out late a night with a stencil and spray your house number on the spot!

WacoKid

steve06 wrote: »

Just go out late a night with a stencil and spray your house number on the spot!

...or draw a wheelchair

Henry Ford III

steve06 wrote: »

Just go out late a night with a stencil and spray your house number on the spot!

I know people who did that

BlackWizard

Leave the wheelie bins out on the spot?

Before doing that I'd just talk to the person either by letter or face to face.

ocizeus

Tried that, and so did a neighbour, no joy.

Berty

ocizeus wrote: »

Tried that, and so did a neighbour, no joy.

Why don't they park in front of their own house? Possibly because a neighbour park's in their space.

Just another link in the chain I would say.

Bee

ocizeus wrote: »

no they are car parking spaces on housing estate but the spaces don't have numbers on them, even tho everyone else parks in their own space. Might have the odd visitor parking in the space but these people leave the car their for weeks sometimes.

Unfortunatly in situations like that with such anti-social behaviour by idiots abandoning their car outside your door, neighbours tend to notice if the cars tax-disc or any minor defects that warrant a ticket are usually reported to the local Gardai or control plus etc.

In fact cars abanoned for weeks lose their license plates and are removed by the council. (because they are reported as such and with no license plate the council must remove them)

Such abanonded cars I believe, frequently end up with 4 flat tyres on a frequent basis. Usually resolved by their owner learning to behave in a more neighbourly manner

Anan1

Bee wrote: »

In fact cars abanoned for weeks lose their license plates and are removed by the council. (because they are reported as such and with no license plate the council must remove them)

Such abanonded cars I believe, frequently end up with 4 flat tyres on a frequent basis. Usually resolved by their owner learning to behave in a more neighbourly manner

Infracted. We take a dim view of encouraging that kind of behaviour around here.

Dades

OP, do the neighbours have their own spaces and do not use them? Or more than one car to park?

Is there some reason why they choose your house instead of some more convenient space?

BlackWizard

I reckon if Robert Frost was still alive he could write a masterpiece on neighbours and parking cars. 'Mending Car Spaces'

"Good spaces make good neighbours"

bazzachazza

As others have said you don't own the space outside your house and as they seem unwilling to park elsewhere you have no other choice than to put up with it.

Your not alone by the way. This happens everywhere in the world.

Only option is everyone on the estate/development agrees via a meeting that total number of spots divided by total number of house/homes equals what you get. So if the answer is 1/1.5/2 then you get to paint your home number on the spot outside. This by the way will probably not work for lots of reasons.

This is why we bought a house with parking for both our cars in our own driveway.

ocizeus

They have there own space which is on there street but its more side on, harder to park i guess. Our space is easier to drive straight in. Thats all.

JHMEG

You have no recourse to the law, but that doesn't mean you can't ask them not to park there, put a traffic cone there, get the council to paint double yellows etc.

douglashyde

A point not made yet, if you have a drive way, which im presuming you dont.

then it is illegal to block this drive way, even if parked on a public road.

ardmacha

get the council to paint double yellows etc.

That would be a bit of a dog in the manger attitude, given that you would then not be able to park there either.

Every time I go on a public road I am obstructed by other people, but they have as much right as me.

Tipsy Mac

JHMEG wrote: »

put a traffic cone there

If anyone damages themselves or their vehicle with the cone you are opening yourself up for liable action.

craichoe

http://www.youparklikeanasshole.com/give.html

Keep sticking these on

biko

Public spots are "first come, first served". Annoying I know but there you go.

E39MSport

@ OP, Are you paying money to a property management crowd?

Victor_M

Tipsy Mac wrote: »

If anyone damages themselves or their vehicle with the cone you are opening yourself up for liable action.

Then make sure your name and address isn't on the cone;)
There are lots of ways from the polite to the assertive to ensure that people in a neighbourhood behave in a fair and reasonable manner.

Unfortunately there are a lot of grey areas in modern developments in Ireland that can be exploited by inconsiderate developers (mainly)/neighbours/Renters, sometimes people need to take matters into their own hands and deal with the situation themselves, within the confines of the greyness of the law of course, nothing illegal.

Anan1

Victor_M wrote: »

There are lots of ways from the polite to the assertive to ensure that people in a neighbourhood behave in a fair and reasonable manner.

Unfortunately there are a lot of grey areas in modern developments in Ireland that can be exploited by inconsiderate developers (mainly)/neighbours/Renters, sometimes people need to take matters into their own hands and deal with the situation themselves, within the confines of the greyness of the law of course, nothing illegal.

craichoe wrote: »

http://www.youparklikeanasshole.com/give.html

Keep sticking these on

I think some of you may be missing the point here - as far as we know, it's a public road. Just because it's outside the OP's house doesn't give them any particular rights over it, either legal or moral. Some of the advice given here, if followed, might well blow up in the OP's face - is that really what you want?

Victor_M

Anan1 wrote: »

I think some of you may be missing the point here - as far as we know, it's a public road. Just because it's outside the OP's house doesn't give them any particular rights over it, either legal or moral. Some of the advice given here, if followed, might well blow up in the OP's face - is that really what you want?

True, sorry I got carried away with one of my pet hates, but when it comes to Public first come first served parking, unfortunately the owner most likely knew the parking situation when he/she purchased (unlike my place for example where we were told one thing on signing contracts and a completely different parking situation materialised once the developer got his money).

OP best thing to do is try mentioning it to the repeat offender as they may be blissfully unaware that they are inconveniencing anyone, he/she may be more than happy to move on and park elsewhere, he's probably just in the habit of parking in the same spot every day, failing that to come to an agreement with your immediate neighbours to try and hog the spots nearest you first, eg. could 2 cars take up 3 spots until the last person gets home or something like that?

rebel.ranter

douglashyde wrote: »

A point not made yet, if you have a drive way, which im presuming you dont.

then it is illegal to block this drive way, even if parked on a public road.

Just to delve further, if you have a typical front garden with half grass & half driveway why not apply for planning (so you are covered legally) to convert the grass side into a parking spot.
The solves two problems, they cannot block your exit & you have a guaranteed parking sace near the house.
Of course it pre-supposes that you have enough room to widen the driveway. I think it would cost roughly €800 to do a cobblelock driveyway exension.

corktina

get ALL the neighbours to stencil numbers on "their" spot....might work...or some cones....

Victor

Ask for the street to be made a residents parking zone (with or without pay & display). For a modest amount every year you should be able to park there.

E39MSport

^ +1

This is a good solution for a public road. My folks live in Dundrum and its terrible outside their house for all day parking. People dumping their car at 7 to catch the Luas or people working in the shopping centre.

The road perpendicular to them has sorted a residents parking zone. Those residents pay 40 Eur per year for their permit and have a book of tickets for guests etc. Problem solved.

Talk to your local friendly councillor.

eringobragh

Not so much as the OP, but back in Dublin our neighbours have a rented house with 4 cars, there was 1 lad in particular that pissed me off he'd always park smack bang in the middle of the 2 houses (where there was easily room for 2 cars) and you couldn't park there as you'd block the driveway either side, so I painted a line in the middle of the 2 and he eventually started to park right after a quick word.:cool:

ocizeus

To clarify a few points we bought the house understanding we had parking space but wrongly assumed they would be numbered. The neighbours are well aware of the inconvenience they are causing to a number of neighbours and gards have been involved with them with other neighbours. Getting in touch with the local councilor is good advice.

JHMEG

Tipsy Mac wrote: »

If anyone damages themselves or their vehicle with the cone you are opening yourself up for liable action.

No you are not. If anyone damages themselves off your parked (ie stationary) car/caravan/bicycle/lorry/skip you're not liable.

Anyone familiar with Convent Row in Maynooth will know that several residents use cones to cut down on nuisance parking.

JCDUB

I have this problem, less regularly but to a worse degree.

I live near an airport and sometimes have bastards who park outside my house for two weeks while they go on holidays in the summer.

The long term car parks can be had for roughly €5 a day, so €70 would cover them.If they can afford to go on holidays they can afford the €70.

I know they're entitled to park there provided their car is taxed, but when the retards park directly opposite another car on the opposite side of the road they create a hazard, which is a big no-no.

My estate has elderly neighbours who may need an ambo or fire brigade at any time, so I waste no time in calling the Gardai and having one removed.

I have taken no part in damage to cars, and I don't condone it, but I find it amusing when I come out my driveway and see somebody back off a nice relaxing two week break hunting around in the boot for a foot pump with their bags scattered around the boot of the car.

One even had the neck to ask me for a foot pump. You can imagine the response..