bad judgement

higgo1888

i was in court last week, up on a minor taffic offence. i was one of the last to be called up so i witnessed nearly all of the other offence's. the minute the judge walked in to the room you could see he was in a bad humour. i could not believe the sentences he was handing out ,niether could anyone else. he was giving people 6 months for little or nothing and handing down 1000euro fines for the least little thing. there were jaws dropping all around the court.i was a nervous wreck thankfully mine was struck out cause i had all my documentations, but i cant help but feel sorry for some of these poeple, its hard to believe a judge can ruin someone's life just because there in a bad mood probably over an arguement with the wife or something silly like that. has anyone else ever expierienced something like this???????????

4zn76tysfajdxp

They're gonna eat you alive in here.

soups05

its about time these judges got some sense and handed out real sentances. too many wrist slapping and let em out to do the same again types judges out there.

Shield

Absolutely.

MagicMarker

A judge can't just sent someone to jail because he's in a bad humour. There are restrictions in place, min/max sentences depending on the crime etc. If the crime warranted a 6 month sentence, then fúck them.

Agricola

Oh well. You fought the law, and you won.

Diabhal Beag

higgo1888 wrote: »

i was in court last week, up on a minor taffic offence. i was one of the last to be called up so i witnessed nearly all of the other offence's. the minute the judge walked in to the room you could see he was in a bad humour. i could not believe the sentences he was handing out ,niether could anyone else. he was giving people 6 months for little or nothing and handing down 1000euro fines for the least little thing. there were jaws dropping all around the court.i was a nervous wreck thankfully mine was struck out cause i had all my documentations, but i cant help but feel sorry for some of these poeple, its hard to believe a judge can ruin someone's life just because there in a bad mood probably over an arguement with the wife or something silly like that. has anyone else ever expierienced something like this???????????

Well you are a criminal in fairness

Jet Black

I bet you wont be doing it again.

TheZohanS

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Well you are a criminal in fairness

His was struck out.

fizzynicenice

Oh here we go. Everyones about to get called a scumbag for not payin thier TV license.

mikom

higgo1888 wrote: »

i was in court last week, up on a minor taffic offence.

"Real cases! Real people! Judge Judy taffic!"

Diabhal Beag

TheZohan wrote: »

His was struck out.

Still a criminal, just with good links

rizzee

higgo1888 wrote: »

i was in court last week, up on a minor taffic offence. i was one of the last to be called up so i witnessed nearly all of the other offence's. the minute the judge walked in to the room you could see he was in a bad humour. i could not believe the sentences he was handing out ,niether could anyone else. he was giving people 6 months for little or nothing and handing down 1000euro fines for the least little thing. there were jaws dropping all around the court.i was a nervous wreck thankfully mine was struck out cause i had all my documentations, but i cant help but feel sorry for some of these poeple, its hard to believe a judge can ruin someone's life just because there in a bad mood probably over an arguement with the wife or something silly like that. has anyone else ever expierienced something like this???????????

Arrested for bad grammar and punctuation?

K-Ren

You don't expect people to pity them do you, not after the title you gave the topic?

BAD JUDGEMENT starring Martin Lawrence and Vin Diesel

An out of luck junkie and a high-flying business man have the the wackiest, zaniest 150 hours ever, when their lives are completely reversed by the wacky Judge Timmerman, played by Robert Downey Jr.

No it's not that movie you've seen 50 times before!

"It's plaintiff to see, this is a great movie" - The Guardian

"I laughed, I cried, I five'd. Guilty as charged your honour- 5/5!" - The Daily Mirror

"This film constitutes greatness! " - The Sun

" I gavel it 10/10" - News Of The World

I spent way too much time on that...

walrusgumble

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Still a criminal, just with good links

or maybe the garda/road authorities was not doing their jobs right? maybe there had being no need to even bring the matter into court? maybe summons were sent out when they should not have being (eg, within no insurance document physically on one's person (for varoius good reasons) at the very time of being stopped but had went to the station to report and produce same) maybe penalty points and fine were paid on time but were not recorded? maybe garda didn't bother turning up?

BrokenArrows

K-Ren wrote: »

You don't expect people to pity them do you, not after the title you gave the topic?

BAD JUDGEMENT starring Martin Lawrence and Vin Diesel

An out of luck junkie and a high-flying business man have the the wackiest, zaniest 150 hours ever, when their lives are completely reversed by the wacky Judge Timmerman, played by Robert Downey Jr.

No it's not that movie you've seen 50 times before!

"It's plaintiff to see, this is a great movie" - The Guardian

"I laughed, I cried, I five'd. Guilty as charged your honour- 5/5!" - The Daily Mirror

"This film constitutes greatness! " - The Sun

" I gavel it 10/10" - News Of The World

I spent way too much time on that...

you get a thanks for the effort

TheZohanS

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Still a criminal, just with good links

It was a minor motoring offence and it was struck out by the Judge, no conviction.

He is not a criminal in the eyes of the judge and the state, so lets not be abusive by calling him one.

higgo1888

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Still a criminal, just with good links

grow up pal, it was for not having my insurance documents with me at a random checkpoint.

criminal,
laughable

rizzee

higgo1888 wrote: »

grow up pal, it was for not having my insurance documents with me at a random checkpoint.

criminal,
laughable

Its true

orourkeda

Makes change from the usual calls for the removal of peoples reproductive organs for not paying their tv licence and the death penalty for getting a parking ticket.

daveharnett

higgo1888 wrote: »

its hard to believe a judge can ruin someone's life just because there in a bad mood.

Well, there is a process where people can appeal unduly harsh sentances. I think it's called the appeal process.

Wait this is after hours. Shower of b******s! Skin the lot of them with a spoon and so forth.

seanybiker

Tis about time they done this. Apart from 1 day next month i hope they keep it up

Sofiztikated

higgo1888 wrote: »

i was in court last week, up on a minor taffic offence. i was one of the last to be called up so i witnessed nearly all of the other offence's. the minute the judge walked in to the room you could see he was in a bad humour. i could not believe the sentences he was handing out ,niether could anyone else. he was giving people 6 months for little or nothing and handing down 1000euro fines for the least little thing. there were jaws dropping all around the court.i was a nervous wreck thankfully mine was struck out cause i had all my documentations, but i cant help but feel sorry for some of these poeple, its hard to believe a judge can ruin someone's life just because there in a bad mood probably over an arguement with the wife or something silly like that. has anyone else ever expierienced something like this???????????

They can appeal any sentences they want, appeals process.

I was going to try a witty response, but I can't. Mind is sore from deceiphering that.

Oh and seeing as it is becoming more common around here:

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Some extra punctuation.......................

Notorious

I know a guy who was banned from driving for 3 months because he stopped in a double yellow box in the centre of Dublin during rush hour. The guy lost his job because he lost his licence.

Bit harsh imo.

Sofiztikated

Notorious wrote: »

I know a guy who was banned from driving for 3 months because he stopped in a double yellow box in the centre of Dublin during rush hour. The guy lost his job because he lost his licence.

Bit harsh imo.

Well, he shouldn't have lost his licence then, should he? If he'd been driving properly, and paying attention to the rules of the road, he'd have been fine.

SV

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Well, he shouldn't have lost his licence then, should he? If he'd been driving properly, and paying attention to the rules of the road, he'd have been fine.

So for something so so minor that affects hardly anything.. Doesn't put anyone in danger but simply inconveniences one or two people.. A 3 month ban is justified in your eyes? Simply because the Judge can?

Armin_Tamzarian

higgo1888 wrote: »

grow up pal, it was for not having my insurance documents with me at a random checkpoint.

criminal,
laughable

Is that even a real crime?
I thought you get 7 days to produce such documentation at a station of your choosing?

Sofiztikated

SV wrote: »

So for something so so minor that affects hardly anything.. Doesn't put anyone in danger but simply inconveniences one or two people.. A 3 month ban is justified in your eyes? Simply because the Judge can?

Ah, but it does endanger people.

Yellow boxes are to let traffic flow throw difficult junctions.

If you are blocking these, you are blocking traffic.

If you are blocking traffic, you could be blocking ambulances/fire service/AGS, who when having to negotiate through traffic come across more than one fool blocking traffic on a daily basis.

So your "inconveniece" turns into something more serious.

Don't block yellow boxes. Thats the law. Personally, I'd give three months for the offence and crush your car for being a numpty.

Mike 1972

Notorious wrote: »

I know a guy who was banned from driving for 3 months because he stopped in a double yellow box in the centre of Dublin during rush hour. The guy lost his job because he lost his licence.

Bit harsh imo.

A bit harsh certainely

provided there wasnt much in the way of previous convictions/other aggrivating factors ??????

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Still a criminal, just with good links

So everyone who comes before the courts is always guilty of the offence they have been charged with (and probably some other stuff which didnt come up too) ?

In that case why do we bother wasting money on judges and courts at all ? Lets just have everyone suspected of an offence by the cops sent directly to jail sure wouldnt it be a whole lot simpler...............

Armin_Tamzarian

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Ah, but it does endanger people.

Yellow boxes are to let traffic flow throw difficult junctions.

If you are blocking these, you are blocking traffic.

If you are blocking traffic, you could be blocking ambulances/fire service/AGS, who when having to negotiate through traffic come across more than one fool blocking traffic on a daily basis.

So your "inconveniece" turns into something more serious.

Don't block yellow boxes. Thats the law. Personally, I'd give three months for the offence and crush your car for being a numpty.

Got I wish personal abuse was legal.

It's very simple to inadvertantly get stuck on a yellow box,
especially in slow moving city traffic.
A fine would be fair enough but a ban would be ridiculous.

higgo1888

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

Is that even a real crime?
I thought you get 7 days to produce such documentation at a station of your choosing?

yes, so did i, but they did not say that to me in this situation,so i thought nothing more of it til i got a summons in my letterbox.

strange i thought too.

Liam Byrne

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

It's very simple to inadvertantly get stuck on a yellow box,

It's even simpler not to.

Just don't enter until the car opposite leaves it!

Sofiztikated

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

Got I wish personal abuse was legal.

It's very simple to inadvertantly get stuck on a yellow box,
especially in slow moving city traffic.
A fine would be fair enough but a ban would be ridiculous.

If you want to abuse me, fine, take it to a PM, I've an answer for you already.

I know how easy it is to drive in slow moving traffic, lived and drove in Dublin for 4 years. I also know how easy it is to BE AWARE of your surroundings. When it comes to driving, it really rattles my cage at how bloody ignorant we are in this country of decent driving practices.

offdechain

the cops r dopes

Armin_Tamzarian

Sofiztikated wrote: »

If you want to abuse me, fine, take it to a PM, I've an answer for you already.

Settle down killer, I'll not be abusing you, perish the thought.

I know how easy it is to drive in slow moving traffic, lived and drove in Dublin for 4 years.

You should also know how easy it is for someone (especially an inexperienced driver) to end up stuck in a yellow box.
It happens all the time on the Dublin quays in rush hour.
To say that they should be banned for this is ridiculous, it's an accident, a crime without intent.
For many a ban would mean losing their jobs.

Sofiztikated

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

Settle down killer, I'll not be abusing you, perish the thought.

Nae problem, Armin. (I did come off a bit abrasive to you.) As I said, its one thing that really gets on my wick. I'm fairly liberal when it comes to anything else.

You should also know how easy it is for someone (especially an inexperienced driver) to end up stuck in a yellow box.
It happens all the time on the Dublin quays in rush hour.
To say that they should be banned for this is ridiculous, it's an accident, a crime without intent.
For many a ban would mean losing their jobs.

It happens all the time in on the Quays, because its let happen. I know it is a crime without intent, BUT its showing that they are incapable of motoring with due care and consideration for themselves, their surroundings, and other motorists.

If they thought that they'd lose their jobs, then maybe they wouldn't be in such a "rush" to get nowhere, and hold up everyone else! But I digress, possibly I should take it to the R&R.

Back OT, OP, 6 months for little things, and €1000 fines for hardly anything. Little things and hardly anything are subjective. Care to illustrate?

Terry

TheZohan wrote: »

His was struck out.

So was mine. I still committed a crime though.

higgo1888 wrote: »

grow up pal, it was for not having my insurance documents with me at a random checkpoint.

criminal,
laughable

You do not go to court for not having insurance documents at a checkpoint.
You are given 10 days to produce.
That you went to court shows that you did not produce your documents and therefore you are a criminal because you obviously did not produce your documents on time. That is a criminal offence.

On a lighter note, the last time I was in court there was some hippie dude with a top saying "The only difference between Irish bankers and American bankers is that American bankers went to jail".
I was the first called up (excluding those who didn't show), so I didn't get to see what he was up for.

Anyway, I'm back on the 8th of January for not having a tv licence. This should be fun.

brendansmith

K-Ren wrote: »

You don't expect people to pity them do you, not after the title you gave the topic?

BAD JUDGEMENT starring Martin Lawrence and Vin Diesel

An out of luck junkie and a high-flying business man have the the wackiest, zaniest 150 hours ever, when their lives are completely reversed by the wacky Judge Timmerman, played by Robert Downey Jr.

No it's not that movie you've seen 50 times before!

"It's plaintiff to see, this is a great movie" - The Guardian

"I laughed, I cried, I five'd. Guilty as charged your honour- 5/5!" - The Daily Mirror

"This film constitutes greatness! " - The Sun

" I gavel it 10/10" - News Of The World

I spent way too much time on that...

Bet you thought this was deserving of more than one thanks? Well...



































































It is!

walrusgumble

Terry wrote: »

So was mine. I still committed a crime though.



You do not go to court for not having insurance documents at a checkpoint.
You are given 10 days to produce.
That you went to court shows that you did not produce your documents and therefore you are a criminal because you obviously did not produce your documents on time. That is a criminal offence.

On a lighter note, the last time I was in court there was some hippie dude with a top saying "The only difference between Irish bankers and American bankers is that American bankers went to jail".
I was the first called up (excluding those who didn't show), so I didn't get to see what he was up for.

Anyway, I'm back on the 8th of January for not having a tv licence. This should be fun.

sometimes, many go to their nearest station within the 10 days and for some reason our fine boys in blue fail to record the attendance correctly. human errors can and do occur!

walrusgumble

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

Settle down killer, I'll not be abusing you, perish the thought.



You should also know how easy it is for someone (especially an inexperienced driver) to end up stuck in a yellow box.
It happens all the time on the Dublin quays in rush hour.
To say that they should be banned for this is ridiculous, it's an accident, a crime without intent.
For many a ban would mean losing their jobs.

some road traffic matters don't require to have intent - strict liability