Early Prices _ Errors?

Moro Man

I went into a bookies yesterday to check prices for last night's meeting at Wolverhampton. The prices came by fax from their head office. The horse I was looking for was Clear Sailing in the 7.50. They had it priced up at 14/1. The price looked fairly generous so I had a bet on it. I haven't had a chance to collect it yet but was speaking to someone else who backed the horse. He said that the bookies informed him that theprice was a 'clerical' error and they weren't honouring the bet. Anyone have this happen to them before and what was the outcome?

From my point of view The rules as I understand state that they can welch on an 'obvious' price error or if a price is given by mistake due to human error. I don't think internal communication from their hq would be classed as a human error. And 14/1 certainly couldn't be classed as an obvious error in a horse race

qc3

Moro Man wrote: »

I went into a bookies yesterday to check prices for last night's meeting at Wolverhampton. The prices came by fax from their head office. The horse I was looking for was Clear Sailing in the 7.50. They had it priced up at 14/1. The price looked fairly generous so I had a bet on it. I haven't had a chance to collect it yet but was speaking to someone else who backed the horse. He said that the bookies informed him that theprice was a 'clerical' error and they weren't honouring the bet. Anyone have this happen to them before and what was the outcome?

From my point of view The rules as I understand state that they can welch on an 'obvious' price error or if a price is given by mistake due to human error. I don't think internal communication from their hq would be classed as a human error. And 14/1 certainly couldn't be classed as an obvious error in a horse race

Bookies are under no legal obligation to honour any bet, be it right or mistake.Hard luck not to get the 14/1.:(

Clemon

Go back in about a weeks time and hopefully they will have forgoton about the clerical error then

raheny red

Clemon wrote: »

Go back in about a weeks time and hopefully they will have forgoton about the clerical error then

And possibly get someone sacked :rolleyes:

Browney7

Bet will probably revert to SP. What price did the horse win at out of interest?

qc3

At all horse or greyhound meetings when we are receiving a "Course Betting service" we will lay the current quoted price of the selection at the time the bet is accepted. Neither a "bar price" nor the instruction "first show" will be accepted; if taken in error the selection will be settled at the starting price. Clients wishing to bet at board or morning prices must stipulate this when calling out the bet and ensure that the quoted price is read back to them by our Call Centre Staff, otherwise the bet will be settled at starting price. Where a board or morning price is laid, this will apply to the selection throughout the slip. Should there be an (official) correction of a price or starting price, whichever is wrongly transmitted, all wagers struck at that price will be settled at the corrected price or starting price, whichever is the greater, a similar correction will be made where, due to a mistake by a member of our staff a price has been incorrectly quoted, whether to the clients advantage or not. This rule will similarly apply where morning prices advertised or displayed on the day of an event are marked incorrectly on the betting slip by a member of our Staff. Settlement of the place part of each way bets where a price has been laid (excepting ante-post) is determined by our Rule 12. A horse race bet laid in accordance with advertised or circulated prices on the day of the race is not an ante-post bet and in the event of any withdrawals such horse(s) will count as non runners and bets for other horses will be subject to a deduction equivalent to that of Tattersalls Rule 4, the rate depending upon the advertised or quoted price(s) of the withdrawn horse(s). When a Rule 4 deduction applies to an early priced race, and the result renders the price less than the returned S.P. price, we will waive the Rule 4 deduction. This applies to singles only.

Moro Man

qc3 wrote: »

. This rule will similarly apply where morning prices advertised or displayed on the day of an event are marked incorrectly on the betting slip by a member of our Staff.

I have removed all the irrelevant rules. This is the one that applies in this case, and my reading would be that this only covers a mistake by the person giving you the price AND does not cover a published price ( that has not been altered ) that is displayed in all their offices.

Shockin pity my bookie doesn't have these rules . They have a disclaimer on their early morning prices that basically says if they decide that they put the wrong price on their official early morning price sheet for a race and then display in their offices they reserve the right to cancel the price and settle at sp. Or basically their early morning prices aren't worth ****. ( They do claim they're guaranteed :rolleyes: but they may need to strike a line through best and put worst in instead).

From my point of view ( even if I didn't have this bet ) this cannot be classed as a clerical error. If they are too sloppy not to be arsed to check what they're publishing then tough. It's not the clerks fault so it can't be classed as clerical.

Can you imagine the complaints if on course bookies started claiming that they gave you the wrong price

The horse won at 3/1. I was offered 3/1 and must go talk to the manager this afternoon. The guy on duty didn't have the authority to change what the bet had been settled at.

jacool

You should ask for the price when you staked your bet. If that was 6 or 7 then you should get that. If it was 4, then its obvious that the 14 was a very bad typo ! You could have backed it somewhere else that had a bigger morning price.

The rules seem to imply that they can renege on all morning prices and settle at SP for any horse they wish - not a good place to be placing bets I'd say.

Moro Man

After a 30 second discussion with the shop manager he settled the bet @6/1