Land of The Free -1st day of the 2nd American Rev

imstrongerthanu

I wonder will it ever get to the point where the people get so fed up;
that there is a coup de ta; not unlike that whenKermit Roosevelt Jr
caused Iran's democratically elected leader to be overthrown in 1953?

Overheal

Begging your pardon, but: huh?

Can you please summarize or introduce your topic a bit more clearly?

Pocono Joe

No revolution as long as we continue to allow the Orwellian socialists, which have taken control of our schools and universities, to propagate their ideals and indoctrinate our kids.

A classic example from Northwestern University’s Staff Handbook on employment, which is available for all to see on the internet.

From Page 9 of the handbook:

Employment

Nondiscrimination
Northwestern University does not discriminate against any individual or permit discrimination by any member of its community against any individual on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, parental status, marital status, age, disability, citizenship, veteran or status in matters of admissions, employment, housing, or services or in the educational programs or activities it operates.

- - -

Affirmative Action
Northwestern University actively seeks women, minorities, veterans, and disabled persons for employment and promotion to maintain a University community based on equal opportunity.

http://www.northwestern.edu/hr/forms/oncampus/handbook.pdf

Animal Farm’s Comrade Napoleon summed this sort of thing up his own way: "ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS."

InTheTrees

Pocono Joe wrote: »

No revolution as long as we continue to allow the Orwellian socialists, which have taken control of our schools and universities, to propagate their ideals and indoctrinate our kids.

A classic example from Northwestern University’s Staff Handbook on employment, which is available for all to see on the internet.

Huh??

That has nothing to do with "orwellian" universities.

Its the State of Illinois employment laws. You'll probably also find it where businesses post their mandatory health and safety notices.

Hallibuton and the Republican party probably have to post similar notices in their states.

Overheal

I dont remember you screaming Orwellian when the GOP passed the USA PATRIOT Act.

Moriarty

Pocono Joe wrote: »

No revolution as long as we continue to allow the Orwellian socialists, which have taken control of our schools and universities, to propagate their ideals and indoctrinate our kids.

A classic example from Northwestern University’s Staff Handbook on employment, which is available for all to see on the internet.

From Page 9 of the handbook:


http://www.northwestern.edu/hr/forms/oncampus/handbook.pdf

Animal Farm’s Comrade Napoleon summed this sort of thing up his own way: "ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS."

Do you honestly not see the difference?

Nondiscrimination section: affirming that they won't negatively discriminate against staff or applicants due to the mentioned criteria. You won't be sacked for being black, or in a wheel chair, or a veteran.

Affirmative action section: affirming that they will take the mentioned aspects in to account to correct a perceived pre-existing and detrimental balance against people mentioned here.

If you think that's orwellian, I'd suggest you go back to your books and take another look. It isn't.

Sliding off what ever topic may have been here before, affirmative action is a sticky issue. I'd imagine we can all mostly agree that it would be a good thing for the aforementioned sections of society to be 'normally' represented at all levels of society. The only way that will meaningfully happen is to nurture these people where they never existed before - and that can mean having idiots of all types being promoted ahead of people who should have got it.

I think it's something that's worthwhile over the medium term if it leaves a far more representative society in a couple of decades when affirmative action would no longer be needed.

Nodin

Pocono Joe wrote: »

No revolution (....)OTHERS."

So if a bunch of white middle class democrats (due to subconcious 'mirroring'), ended up hiring 99% white middle class democrats, it wouldn't bother you a jot about the excluded veterans, older conservative folk, republican voting hispanics left out....?

aurelius79

Not to derail the conversation any further but nondiscrimination and affermative action should not exist in the same employment manual. You either don't discriminate or you do. Affermative action did more harm that it did good. It only served to widen the false boundaries between race, sex, and ability.

Now on to the actual topic. Yes, this scenario is entirely possible. There are many free thinking American patriots still willing to pick up a gun. The only thing missing is a leader to show the way.

It's a shame that this is really the only option left but we have seen how democracy in America has ended up. Voting machines manufatured by politicians, lobby groups backed by billions of dollars, totlitarian governments. The people no longer have a voice that is heard by those in power. Once the power behind the government turns it's full force against the people of the U.S., I can imagine another armed struggle for independance. It's only a matter of time.

By the way, all these things happening in the U.S. right now will shortly be mirrored in the EU.