Cloud Skin; And People Who Use Black Font...

Rev. BlueJeans

...thus rendering their text invisible.

I like a dark skin when browsing, easier on the eyes, but when someone posts in black for some strange reason best known to themselves, it's pretty much impossible to read. Is there an easy way to standardise the text colour?

aidan_walsh

Its standard by default. The only real way to stop it is to get people to quit using the tags erroneously.

oscarBravo

I would guess that explicitly black text happens when people compose their posts in word processors, and copy'n'paste them into the reply box.

It's not a bad idea from a spell checking and browser-ate-my-post perspective, but it would make me happier if people pasted into something like Notepad, then copy'n'pasted into the browser.

leninbenjamin

OP have you tried the green skin? I find it much easier on the eyes than the standard skin (and cloud) plus it has the added advantage of not being a standard colour so when posters want to be retards you can still make out the text. Not exactly a 'real' solution but worth a try perhaps.

Rev. BlueJeans

Thanks guys.

As I suspected, no easy solution then, at least I know I'm not alone

I did try the green skin before lb, actually looking at it now and it's not too bad. I might stick with it yet!

Nevyn

It annoys the hell out of me as a dark skin user, ( I've tried other skins but they cause havock with my dyslexia) in PI/RI I will go and edit out those tags.

They are not needed but some posters are just not happy with default font and text colour and feel the need to put more flare on thier posts, and my response is as ever when I see it is one of extreme do not want.

Rev. BlueJeans

+1 on that, I'm lucky in that I don't have to mod them (so I can just pass on to the next post!)

dr.bollocko

Rev. BlueJeans wrote: »

+1 on that, I'm lucky in that I don't have to mod them (so I can just pass on to the next post!)

Can't you just highlight the text? Doesn't that make it readable?

Rev. BlueJeans

I can, but it's a pita.

Amz

It's incredibly bloody annoying.

Why should I have to highlight the text in order to read it? Why should reading a post require extra work on my part? It's just an added irritation. I tend to just ignore any post with added "flare", as it tends to be an accurate indication that the content isn't really worth reading.

dr.bollocko

Well you'd probably be wrong. Anyone doing it is not aware that they are annoying you. It sucks but then I never really "got" the cloud skin. They'll maybe be able to implement something to change it if you post in the dev forum or something?

Amz

I think you'll find that, in this area, I'm rarely wrong.

I've yet to read a post, where the poster has edited their font/font colour and felt that my life was made in anyway better for having made the effort to read it.

I find that ignoring such posts makes me feel a lot better.

Rev. BlueJeans

I'm not sure if there's an easy fix, Doc. I really posted here to see if I was the only one with this annoyance.

Are people aware of it? No, probably not, most of 'em who've come here in the last couple of years wouldn't have a clue who Cloud was (when's the last time he posted on Boards?), or why he had his own skin, much less the effect it has on their (to them) perfectly legible posts.

Would I look down on them, course not. I would however, like others, just ignore the posts, not out of any malevolence, or sense of satisfaction, but because I cba reading them. It's a more common problem than one might imagine. And some people do it all the time. And they are inevitably newish.

Just seems pointless not to use the standard fonts, or formatting, I guess.

dr.bollocko

Amz wrote: »

I think you'll find that, in this area, I'm rarely wrong.

I've yet to read a post, where the poster has edited their font/font colour and felt that my life was made in anyway better for having made the effort to read it.

I find that ignoring such posts makes me feel a lot better.

It's a strange aspect of a poster to make a random judgement on but each to their own I guess. Personally I prefer to judge a post based on whether or not the poster is being a complete tool.

Steve

Easy fix for this, simply disable the [noparse][font] .. [/font] [/noparse] bb tags.

Nevyn

Amz wrote: »

I think you'll find that, in this area, I'm rarely wrong.

I've yet to read a post, where the poster has edited their font/font colour and felt that my life was made in anyway better for having made the effort to read it.

I find that ignoring such posts makes me feel a lot better.

I tend to agree but I can't ignore them in the forums which I mod.

and it's the [noparse] [colour=black] [/colour][/noparse] which would need to be disabled.

I can't see much time being spent on it cos with the new menu coming we could loose most of the skins.

Amz

dr.bollocko wrote: »

It's a strange aspect of a poster to make a random judgement on but each to their own I guess. Personally I prefer to judge a post based on whether or not the poster is being a complete tool.

I'm willing to take the risk.

I'd rather ignore a post and risk missing out on a decent contribution, than waste time reading one, and realising that the poster is in fact, a "complete tool".

I find it makes my boards experience far more pleasant.

WindSock

Amz wrote: »

It's incredibly bloody annoying.

Why should I have to highlight the text in order to read it? Why should reading a post require extra work on my part? It's just an added irritation. I tend to just ignore any post with added "flare", as it tends to be an accurate indication that the content isn't really worth reading.

I agree. Anything that has been written in Word has been thought out for far to long that I can be bothered with. Other than that I will highlight the text if I must.

D

leninbenjamin wrote: »

OP have you tried the green skin? I find it much easier on the eyes than the standard skin (and cloud) plus it has the added advantage of not being a standard colour so when posters want to be retards you can still make out the text. Not exactly a 'real' solution but worth a try perhaps.

Green you say? Skin you say? will try it out.

Edit: Eh no thanks back to cloud.

dr.bollocko

D wrote: »

Green you say? Skin you say? will try it out.

Ohohoho.
Methinks me has spotted double meanings.
Subliminal messages encouraging drug abuse?
Boards should be ashamed. Death to the cloud skin.

copacetic

Amz wrote: »

I think you'll find that, in this area, I'm rarely wrong.

I've yet to read a post, where the poster has edited their font/font colour and felt that my life was made in anyway better for having made the effort to read it.

I find that ignoring such posts makes me feel a lot better.

couldn't agree more.

Nevyn

copacetic wrote: »

couldn't agree more.

Wanker :P

dr.bollocko

I think it might be beneficial to everyone in this thread if I started excessively posting in black font all the time from now on just to prove a point that judging a post or poster based on their use of tags is just a teeny bit ridiculous. Of course I realise this might result in me being added to numerous ignore lists but discrimination based on colour is not ok.

GLaDOS

dr.bollocko wrote: »

I think it might be beneficial to everyone in this thread if I started excessively posting in black font all the time from now on just to prove a point that judging a post or poster based on their use of tags is just a teeny bit ridiculous. Of course I realise this might result in me being added to numerous ignore lists but discrimination based on colour is not ok.

What?

Victor

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Can't you just highlight the text? Doesn't that make it readable?

All well and good until they only use black on some works or some paragraphs.

Nevyn

dr.bollocko wrote: »

I think it might be beneficial to everyone in this thread if I started excessively posting in black font all the time from now on just to prove a point that judging a post or poster based on their use of tags is just a teeny bit ridiculous. Of course I realise this might result in me being added to numerous ignore lists but discrimination based on colour is not ok.

I don't do ignore lists, I will just put you on the list for a shin kicking.

DeVore

The ultimate solution (and one we may move to next year) is for people to define what they want their colours to be themselves and do away with the presets of the "skins" at all.

The skins are, unintuitively, a massive massive pain it the bum for Ross. vB implements them quite retardedly and multiplys the amount of hacking and code development we have to do by 1 per skin at certain points.

So, in the future we will either move to a "1 light, 1 dark" solution, or preferably a "colour it yourselves" solution. It wont be today or tomorrow, when I say "soon" I mean next year. Possibly.

DeV.

Amz

dr.bollocko wrote: »

I think it might be beneficial to everyone in this thread if I started excessively posting in black font all the time from now on just to prove a point that judging a post or poster based on their use of tags is just a teeny bit ridiculous. Of course I realise this might result in me being added to numerous ignore lists but discrimination based on colour is not ok.

Thank you for proving my point.

Sherifu

This may be useful to add to your bookmarks and click in times of the dreaded black text. It did annoy me too when I was using Cloud.

This will strip away some other formatting too. If anyone wants to refine it go ahead.

javascript:(function(){var newSS, styles='* { background: black ! important; color: white !important }'; if(document.createStyleSheet) { document.createStyleSheet("javascript:'"+styles+"'"); } else { newSS=document.createElement('link'); newSS.rel='stylesheet'; newSS.href='data:text/css,'+escape(styles); document.getElementsByTagName("head")[0].appendChild(newSS); } })();

Krieg

I also have this minor annoyance

You can configure firefox to show all viewable text as whatever colour you want, but long story short its a pain the arse when you go to view a diff website

Gordon

Can the [colour="black"] code be put in the censor to remove it completely? There's never a need for black font, shirsly. It would mean that people's posts would be dotted with [/color] tags if they are copy/pasting, but it would put more pressure on people to post in the default font.

copacetic

Gordon wrote: »

Can the [colour="black"] code be put in the censor to remove it completely? There's never a need for black font, shirsly. It would mean that people's posts would be dotted with [/color] tags if they are copy/pasting, but it would put more pressure on people to post in the default font.

it's handy for bypassing that shitty swear filter though.

Jonathan

copacetic wrote: »

it's handy for bypassing that shitty swear filter though.

Size also does a pretty good fucking job. :P

dr.bollocko

Jonathan wrote: »

Size also does a pretty good fucking job. :P

But if you use the size tags to get around the swearing filter then you'd have 1% of the people who change text size using browser native settings complaining about how the size tag ruins their ability to read threads.
It's funny cos that 1% statistic is give or take about right for this thread too, considering there are a whopping 352 users of the cloud skin and very few worried about colour tags and only .5 per cent of them appears to judge posters intelligence based on their usage of a tag. Interesting stuff all in all.

Nevyn

It effects more then the cloud skin there is the starwars skin, the evil skin and the hollow'een skin.

D

DeVore wrote: »

Soon™

DeV.

Now part of my sig.

Nick_oliveri

DeVore wrote: »

So, in the future we will either move to a "1 light, 1 dark" solution, or preferably a "colour it yourselves" solution. It wont be today or tomorrow, when I say "soon" I mean next year. Possibly.

DeV.

Cloud stays though...right? It actually helps my eyes a good bit, all those floaters aren't as noticeable with the Cloud skin applied.

Also, I had this skin enabled for the best part of two years, and it took my girlfriend to point out that it says cloud in the upper left hand of the page. I just thought it was a cool looking banner. "Whats Cloud?" :pac:

pickarooney

Amz wrote: »

It's incredibly bloody annoying.

You have your own personal tool-filter. What's annoying about that?

Tar.Aldarion

Hmm, my first black coloured post, I can now enforce people not seeing my posts, enforced ignore, woo!
The only annoying thing about this is the way colour is spelled and that the boards spell check says that I am spelling colour wrong

nesf

Oh Black is the colour of my true love's hair. Her lips are like some roses fair.

star-pants

I use the Black skin and find black text rather annoying - I know I can highlight it, but I find certain colours with certain backgrounds hard on the eyes/not easy to read.

Currently the Christmas Forum has lots of [Advice] etc headings on a bunch of threads which apart from making it awkward to see what's what in the forum, they're written in black so you can't see it unless you go highlighting the page...

Jonathan

CommMan Labels are the same.

star-pants

Ah ok, just I've seen [] stuff in white etc so I assumed you could do them in different colours

Trojan

I switched from my standard Purple skin to Cloud to read this thread, and yes, the black text is incredibly annoying.

In conclusion, purple rocks.

AlmightyCushion

Trojan wrote: »

I switched from my standard Purple skin to Cloud to read this thread, and yes, the black text is incredibly annoying.

In conclusion, purple rocks.

I'm going to start posting like this from now on just to piss you off.