Signature rules enforced.

DeVore

Hey all... something I've been meaning to do for some time, we've constrained the sig tags to disallow things already prohibited by the sig rules. It should lighten the load of the Sigpo and clean the place up a bit.

We're aware that it may impact a few sigs but nothing has been changed that wasnt already prohibited in our existing (and long standing!) rules.

The changes now remove the following tags:
Quote
Size (nothing greater then 2, which is regular size)
Alignment
Font
Code
PHP
HTML


This is to clean up sigs and improve readability for people who have sigs on.

DeV.

DeVore

PS: this will apply to all users, mods and admins.

DeV.

6th

Nice. Simple fix which should clean things up a bit.

DeVore

pps: This will take time to wash through all of our layers of caching and preprocessing... it will take days to weeks to be seen retroactively but is applied to new sigs automatically.

DeV.

We're not allowed to use any of those tags anymore?!

Bit strict dare I say..

DeVore

You were never allowed to use them. I dont think many people will actually notice either... (which ones are you referring to specifically?)

DeV.

6th

6th wrote: »

Nice. Simple fix which should clean things up a bit.

Man your sig is distracting!

--amadeus--

DeVore wrote: »

Hey all... something I've been meaning to do for some time, we've constrained the sig tags to disallow things already prohibited by the sig rules. It should lighten the load of the Sigpo and clean the place up a bit.

We're aware that it may impact a few sigs but nothing has been changed that wasnt already prohibited in our existing (and long standing!) rules.

The changes now remove the following tags:
Quote
Size (nothing greater then 2, which is regular size)
Alignment
Font
Code
PHP
HTML


This is to clean up sigs and improve readability for people who have sigs on.

DeV.

Will this lock out things like Last.fm / TickerFactory sigs?

Nerin

--amadeus-- wrote: »

Will this lock out things like Last.fm / TickerFactory sigs?

it shouldn't. you can find really handy html to vb code converters through google. is there a list of widgets allowed in sigs?

DeVore

--amadeus-- wrote: »

Will this lock out things like Last.fm / TickerFactory sigs?

No. this just strips out the vb BB tags mentioned in the OP.

Afaik, things like the Flickr image, Last.FM and others are done on the image serving server-side and then simply served as an image. Since we arent limiting external images, those things shouldnt be affected.

DeV.

DeVore

Nerin wrote: »

it shouldn't. you can find really handy html to vb code converters through google. is there a list of widgets allowed in sigs?

No, but common sense applies. If its flashes, flickers or jumps up and down, its going to get deleted with avengence.... Sigs are a place to put a personal message or highlight a particular *thing* you find interesting. They arent places for ads, and there is an important distinction between "highlighting" and "drawing attention to".

DeV.

Nerin

DeVore wrote: »

No, but common sense applies. If its flashes, flickers or jumps up and down, its going to get deleted with avengence.... Sigs are a place to put a personal message or highlight a particular *thing* you find interesting. They arent places for ads, and their is an important distinction between "highlighting" and "drawing attention to".

DeV.

so pretty much things like tickerfactory and last.fm are ok because (i presume ) they only move once or twice per day?

6th

Deleted User wrote: »

Man your sig is distracting!

Eye catching ..... and as a advertising desiger I thank you for the complement

Overheal

Nerin wrote: »

so pretty much things like tickerfactory and last.fm are ok because (i presume ) they only move once or twice per day?

well they only change when you refresh the page at least. :pac:

Now if we could automagically enforce image size..

DeVore

Image size is a tricky one.... we could have limited the number of images to 1 but some people have sigs with a couple of small images which arent intrusive.

We can force people to upload their sig image via the control panel but that seemed overly dictatorial and awkward. In the end we decided to leave those things alone and just block the tags which are undesireable from the get go.

DeV.

Overheal

Question: My Jon stewart quote is still center-aligned. Is that not blocked or will it be blocked the next time I go to change my sig?

DeVore

No it will simply not be centred. The tag shouldn't be visible either, it simply wont have an effect on the rendering.

DeV.

AckwelFoley

alingment? As in left right or centre?


My sig is centred as usual.. Perhaps if i never ever log off again i will be able to keep it :pac:

DeVore

Centred sigs are the devil....


DeV.

GLaDOS

DeVore wrote: »

Centred sigs are the devil....


DeV.

I never saw what the issue is with them? Don't use it myself but I think some sigs look better with it

DeVore

It breaks the flow of the thread and almost inevitably is an advertisment of some kind

DeV.

Quazzie

DeVore wrote: »

It breaks the flow of the thread and almost inevitably is an advertisment of some kind

DeV.

How does it break the flow of the thread. It stays centre no matter what width the page is. I'm with ScienceNerd on this one I'm afraid.

aidan_walsh

Quazzie wrote: »

How does it break the flow of the thread. It stays centre no matter what width the page is. I'm with ScienceNerd on this one I'm afraid.

For many people the eye will be following down the left hand side, where the sentence is expected to start. A centred sig forces your attention elsewhere.

Quazzie

I took this feedback on board and went to change my sig. Upon doing so I noticed there is not no option to change allignment. It looks like I'm stuck with my centred sig for the moment until an Admin or the Sigpo get aroung to it.

oscarBravo

Quazzie wrote: »

I took this feedback on board and went to change my sig. Upon doing so I noticed there is not no option to change allignment. It looks like I'm stuck with my centred sig for the moment until an Admin or the Sigpo get aroung to it.

Sorted that for you.

Conor

oscarBravo wrote: »

Sorted that for you.

Another 649 for you to go.

oscarBravo

This is a job for... work-experience admin!

Conor

Nah, just a job for a quick SQL query.

oscarBravo

/has a word with his shop steward

eVeNtInE

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oscarBravo

I'd fix it for you, but I'm on a work-to-rule (see above).

Overheal

aidan_walsh wrote: »

For many people the eye will be following down the left hand side, where the sentence is expected to start. A centred sig forces your attention elsewhere.

I prefer it that way a bit. It makes a Break between posts. Some signatures are downright too flowy, in that you catch yourself reading a sig as part of a post again and again. kinda annoying.

Not always an Ad DeV - I like to put up quotes

Jonathan

Thanks for not banning the [size] tag outright.
I often use to make my sigs less obtrusive.

DeVore

We thought about that too! I use size=1 for the same reason (and because I think people actually read them more often because people are basically nosey )

We did our damnedest to mirror the existing sig rules and where we couldnt (like images) we left things as they were.

DeV.

biko

*turns "Show Signatures" on again*
Thanks Dev

Overheal

Youve forced my alignment!~!

stovelid

Jonathan wrote: »

Thanks for not banning the [size] tag outright.
I often use to make my sigs less obtrusive.

Yup, me too. Makes the text sigs far tidier. Although I currently spoil it with a picture below, but that's by the by.