Film Remakes

Skinfull

As hinted at on another discussion...surely this is a thread worthy topic. (did a search didnt see a similar thread but please merge if I missed it...)

So remakes!? Where do you stand? Hate em or love em?

Personally I cant say I'm a fan of them but then sometimes they just plain work. John Carpenters The Thing is a brilliant example of this. And being a die hard JC fan I was suprised at how much I enjoyed Rob Zombies remake of Halloween (original halloween just piping Jaws for the top spot in "my list") but I hated his sequel.

However Rupert Wainwrights version of The Fog was horrendous, as was Gus Van Sants take on Psycho.

So if you love them which ones and why...if you hate them which ones and why...

That_Guy

I hate remakes for the following:

Friday The 13th
The Hills Have Eyes
Alfie (thought it was woeful)
The Italian Job
Plenty more but I won't go on.

There's not really many good remakes I can really think of to be honest right now.

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wasn't too bad a remake but nowhere near as good as the original.

rednik

Add the remake of When a stranger calls to the list of crap remakes.

That_Guy

rednik wrote: »

Add the remake of When a stranger calls to the list of crap remakes.

Woeful woeful woeful woeful. Oh crap bad memories. Damn you.

Skinfull

That_Guy wrote: »

I hate remakes for the following:

Friday The 13th
The Hills Have Eyes
Alfie (thought it was woeful)
The Italian Job
Plenty more but I won't go on.

There's not really many good remakes I can really think of to be honest right now.

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wasn't too bad a remake but nowhere near as good as the original.

Oh god yeah! F13 was a terrible terrible remake!!! Maybe I should have called this thread CAN you name any good remakes!

Magic Eight Ball

Bangkok Dangerous remake made me wanna puke my balls out through my mouth.

Karl Hungus

Skinfull wrote: »

Maybe I should have called this thread CAN you name any good remakes!

Sure I can.

A Fistful of Dollars
The Fly
The Thing
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (The one with Donald Sutherland)
Scarface
Nosferatu
Cape Fear

There's quite a few good remakes out there in fact. This is overshadowed by the sheer avalanche of terrible remakes.

DazMarz

The Departed (a remake of the Hong Kong cop thriller Infernal Affairs) was top drawer stuff.

bnt

Like A Fistful of Dollars, The Magnificent Seven was also a good remake of a Kurosawa masterpiece (Seven Samurai). I thought the Glenn Close version of 101 Dalmatians was pretty good, and Peter Jackson's King Kong too. Ocean's Eleven was a remake, but I haven't seen the original, though I hear the Soderbergh remake stands up well. I don't know whether his Solaris should be called a remake, though Lem (the author of the original book) thought it was and didn't like it too much.

The most pointless and offensive remake I can think of? Neil Diamond's version of The Jazz Singer. :mad:

DazMarz

Oh, you've also got Desperado. While technically a sequel, it is more in fact a bigger budget, flashier, splashier, gorier and far more entertaining remake of El Mariachi, itself an excellent film.

JP Liz

3:10 to Yuma and King Kong two great remakes

MrStuffins

Casino Royale is not only a great remake, but far out-strips the original.

Although i hate most remakes anyway as shown in this thread

I'd throw out a suggestion. Remake rubbish films. I'm sure there's been 100s of film that had great promise but never quite met it. They should remake THOSE movies. It's maybe just as pointless and even if they fail and the remake is rubbish, they have a much bigger chance of it being better than the original!

Skinfull

MrStuffins wrote: »

Casino Royale is not only a great remake, but far out-strips the original.

Although i hate most remakes anyway as shown in this thread

I'd throw out a suggestion. Remake rubbish films. I'm sure there's been 100s of film that had great promise but never quite met it. They should remake THOSE movies. It's maybe just as pointless and even if they fail and the remake is rubbish, they have a much bigger chance of it being better than the original!

But if the movie was ****e to begin with possibly people wont bother forking out a tenner (plus) to go see a movie that has already proven to be ****e!
I'm not disagreeing with you, just saying.
Remaking the likes of total recall, Aliens, Robocop etc is just plain WRONG but maybe no one would care if they remade something like Tango and Cash, or Striking distance!

BTW...Oceans 11 (and 12) are terribel movies. The original is WAY better!

Exclamation Marc

Planet of the Apes remake. Awful.

BlitzKrieg

king kong was sh*te.

Exclamation Marc

Actually, the two worst remakes of all time;

Psycho and Godzilla.

BlitzKrieg

i think people are mixing up remakes and adaptations a bit here.

I wouldnt consider charlie and the chocolate factory a remake its an adaptation of the same source material.


Casino Royale is another case of adaptation and not remake.

fonecrusher1

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Sure I can.

A Fistful of Dollars
The Fly
The Thing
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (The one with Donald Sutherland)
Scarface
Nosferatu
Cape Fear

There's quite a few good remakes out there in fact. This is overshadowed by the sheer avalanche of terrible remakes.

Holy sh1t i just discovered The Thing was a remake from looking at your post!:eek:
I consider it to be one of the best horror movies ever made but I always thought the title was terrible.

It cheapens what i think is a cracker of a film, obviously they had to call it that to honour the original.
Havent seen the original but I doubt its in the same league as the 1982 version.

Exclamation Marc

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

Casino Royale is another case of adaptation and not remake.

Big time, very different story, and its a satire.

Karl Hungus

Here, I believe, is one of the worst remakes to ever darken our screens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2EBuaPXTJA

Duggy747

I'll see your Haunting remake, and raise you The Hitcher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCx5WrEdRWk

Good God!

Klingon Hamlet

Evil Dead II is technically a remake, and a 100% awesome film altogether.

Little Shop of Horrors with Rick Moranis

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (remake of Bedtime Story)

The Mummy (I really enjoyed it and I love Rachel Weisz)

The Bounty

Karl Hungus

Duggy747 wrote: »

I'll see your Haunting remake, and raise you The Hitcher

Good God!

I'll see your Hitcher remake, and I'll raise you the rip-off Korean version of the Hitcher, Say Yes. It's offensively crap.

I'll also raise you one further, the Nic Cage version of the Wicker Man. Again, so awful, it's offensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo

Klingon Hamlet

Karl Hungus wrote: »

I'll see your Hitcher remake, and I'll raise you the rip-off Korean version of the Hitcher, Say Yes. It's offensively crap.

I'll also raise you one further, the Nic Cage version of the Wicker Man. Again, so awful, it's offensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo

AAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

Oh Nic. You sap.

fonecrusher1

Ah The Haunting..... I remember I actually started laughing at it in the cinema during certain scenes. Couldnt help it.
Literally follows the old haunted house routine to a tee... badly, regardless of how much the CGI cost.

Only movie I ever seen where about a third of the attendance walked out of the cinema a good hour before the end!

Definitely in my top 10 worst movie list.

Duggy747

Heh heh;

"How'd it get burned-how'd it buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurned!!!"

The Fog remake was actually, in my honest opinion........shìt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m31wSrpHTc

Night of the Living Dead 3D - Nuff said

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZvCxFkJayg

Serafina27

There is soo many I would like remade!!

chopperbyrne

Ocean's Eleven was a damn good remake.

The fairly recent Halloween remake was also quite good.

fonecrusher1

Isnt Robocop due for a remake in a few years time?

Klingon Hamlet

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Isnt Robocop due for a remake in a few years time?

Darren Aranofsky was working on a sequel. Not sure on the status. Love to see his vision of this. He's a master of dark storytelling and he doesn't compromise.

fonecrusher1

Klingon Hamlet wrote: »

Darren Aranofsky was working on a sequel. Not sure on the status. Love to see his vision of this. He's a master of dark storytelling and he doesn't compromise.

A lot fans of robocop are already moaning about how much of a pale imitation it will be of the original.
As a fan myself i cant wait for it, couldnt be any worse than the terrible sequels spawned from the original.

Wonder will it deviate from the original's plot?

Klingon Hamlet

The original was very basic but very heartfelt, and Aranofsky is clearly a romantic thanks to The Fountain, but also likes action, so whatever he'll do with it (if he's still onboard), I'm gonna go see it.

pwd

DazMarz wrote: »

The Departed (a remake of the Hong Kong cop thriller Infernal Affairs) was top drawer stuff.

Personally I thought Infernal Affairs was much better

Klingon Hamlet

pwd wrote: »

Personally I thought Internal Affairs was much better

It's Infernal Affairs:)or did you mean the Richard Gere film from yonks ago?

If you meant the Hong Kong movie, I preferred The Departed, it moved at a better pace I thought, and damn the cast were brilliant.

MikeC101

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Holy sh1t i just discovered The Thing was a remake from looking at your post!:eek:
I consider it to be one of the best horror movies ever made but I always thought the title was terrible.

It cheapens what i think is a cracker of a film, obviously they had to call it that to honour the original.
Havent seen the original but I doubt its in the same league as the 1982 version.

It's more of an adaptation of the same source material as the previous film than a straight out remake - it's much more faithfull to the novella as well. Which was called "Who Goes There?". Not a bad title.

fonecrusher1

Klingon Hamlet wrote: »

The original was very basic but very heartfelt, and Aranofsky is clearly a romantic thanks to The Fountain, but also likes action, so whatever he'll do with it (if he's still onboard), I'm gonna go see it.

Robocop is truly innovative. Gore, scfi, social commentary, satire & action. Its a simple enough plot but theres an awful lot going on if you look beyond the ultra-violent 80's facade.
Its a tall order for anyone to attempt a remake. Should be interesting.

BlitzKrieg

If you meant the Hong Kong movie, I preferred The Departed, it moved at a better pace I thought, and damn the cast were brilliant.

I thought the departed was ok, I didnt think it should have been the film that Scorsese got his oscar for (the aviator was a much better films as were obviously many more of his films)

But the interesting thing about infernal affairs/the departed is how blunt they are on the two different styles of cinema and culture in Hong Kong and the US, the departed is obsessed of linking all the problems and issues in the film back to sex while infernal affairs is a much more sterile film.

Both fine films but I would probably choose infernal affairs over the departed mostly because the sterile tone to the many of the scenes suits the film's plot alot better personnally.

fonecrusher1

MikeC101 wrote: »

It's more of an adaptation of the same source material as the previous film than a straight out remake - it's much more faithfull to the novella as well. Which was called "Who Goes There?". Not a bad title.

'The Thing' sounds very 1950's, just doesnt do the 1982 movie any favours.

This is the the truth; Myself & my mate used to rent the worst sounding movies from the local video shop years ago. We each took turns to choose the absolute crappiest sounding film then watch it for the laugh.
We picked The Thing one day & what can I say? I was gob-smacked at how brilliant it was. Creepy, action packed, superb special effects.
Great show, pity about the name.

DazMarz

pwd wrote: »

Personally I thought Infernal Affairs was much better

I thought both were excellent, but I preferred The Departed, just because so much of it was perfect and unique, but especially the Boston (or should that be ''Bawstan'') setting. I thought that was interesting, as it's not often you'd see a gangster film set here, and when I heard it was Martin Scorsese directing, I automatically assumed it was going to be in New York. I loved the Boston setting and the Irish gang connections that permeated the whole film.

pwd

yeah infernal affairs

Skinfull

King Kong remake was ****e...

But I will admit to actually liking The Planet of the Apes remake. And I am a big fan of the series of original movies...go figure!

irish_bob

Skinfull wrote: »

King Kong remake was ****e...

But I will admit to actually liking The Planet of the Apes remake. And I am a big fan of the series of original movies...go figure!

apart from jack black who was tottally miscast , i loved king kong 2005

DinnyBatman

irish_bob wrote: »

apart from jack black who was tottally miscast , i loved king kong 2005

Which part - the 60+ minutes of "build up", the ridiculously bad cgi stampede, or that pointless scene with the big insects (to name just a few). Total Yawnfest.

BlitzKrieg

or that pointless scene with the big insects (to name just a few)

they cut that from the original film , thats what they get for taking an hour and half long film and doubling it.

Kastiel

Remake of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" was awful.

fonecrusher1

Skinfull wrote: »

King Kong remake was ****e...

But I will admit to actually liking The Planet of the Apes remake. And I am a big fan of the series of original movies...go figure!

Quite liked it myself. Admittedly its better in the cinema but its still a good old monster movie. Bit long mind you. Jackson could have binned a good half hour off the final cut.

Richard Dower

Kastiel wrote: »

Remake of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" was awful.

It was truely dire!....the first 20 mins or so were pretty good, but it fell apart! :mad:
Horrid movie.....

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

The problem with remakes is the way you suddenly feel old when you can rememebr the original being in the cinema. I had this when a friend's 17-year-old son didn't know The Karate Kid was a remake. Then there's Clash of the Titans. Good God, I remember dragging my poor father to see that at long-since-past cinema in Middle Abbey Street.

It remains to see how good they are.

BlitzKrieg

I had this when a friend's 17-year-old son didn't know The Karate Kid was a remake.

wait what?

mawk

2004 dawn of the dead.

Its so good i get chills.

irish_bob

DinnyBatman wrote: »

Which part - the 60+ minutes of "build up", the ridiculously bad cgi stampede, or that pointless scene with the big insects (to name just a few). Total Yawnfest.

the stampeded was pretty silly , the pointless part was the completley non relevant story involving the cabin boy and the black sailor