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sheriffs and bailiffs

  • 01-12-2009 5:43pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭


    what type of person would do this job ? anyone know one ,what type of character have they.:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    Rawr rawr I hate them law enforcers!! [/crap]

    Most likely people trying to earn a living and provide for themselves is my guess, most seem to be nice people as well. Whats your opinion of them op? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    My brother in law used to be a repo man (not the fella from WWF :p), broke his heart to do it most days but he had no money and had to provide for his family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    As a wise man once said "anyway if hes making a living out of this FAIR PLAY to him. it would be worse if he was claiming dole"
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=60995538&postcount=215


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭54kroc


    I'd imagine they are just like the rest of us,just because they do a *****y job doesn't make them bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    what type of person would do this job ? anyone know one ,what type of character have they.:mad:
    The type of character that gets back money rightfully owed from people.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    I'd do it. A jobs a job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭krustydoyle


    I worked as debt collector for bout 2 years and i hated but it paid the bills.. **** it i really hated callin to houses where u knew they'd **** all but it was my job and that was that.. im guessing this thread was started because someone has maybe had them on your door step which isnt pleasent for either party!!!!:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    seanybiker wrote: »
    I'd do it. A jobs a job.
    Yeah but surely you have limits as to what you would put yourself through?

    Like if your local paper was advertising positions for "Barnyard Masturbators" or "Flatulence Analysts" would you still give it a whirl?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Smart Bug


    seanybiker wrote: »
    I'd do it. A jobs a job.


    You could stoke the fires in Auschwitz with that attitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    Smart Bug wrote: »
    You could stoke the fires in Auschwitz with that attitude.

    Are you really comparing being part of the cause of a mass genocide to collecting debts 9/10 times which was caused by the persons in debt own stupidity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Smart Bug


    RMD wrote: »
    Are you really comparing being part of the cause of a mass genocide to collecting debts 9/10 times which was caused by the persons in debt own stupidity.


    Yes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Smart Bug wrote: »
    Yes...
    ts;dr


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Any bailiff that chases a T.D. for unpaid taxes has my support.
    O' wait - Ahearn as far as I know still hasn't settled his bill yet, in that case, yep, I like them sometimes. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭mirror mirror


    :confused::confused:
    Pighead wrote: »
    As a wise man once said "anyway if hes making a living out of this FAIR PLAY to him. it would be worse if he was claiming dole"
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=60995538&postcount=215
    :confused::confused::confused:does that mean they morally and ethically believe in their job ? or does it mean its a job and a wage at the end of the week so fcuh it get on with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭mirror mirror


    Biggins wrote: »
    Any bailiff that chases a T.D. for unpaid taxes has my support.
    O' wait - Ahearn as far as I know still hasn't settled his bill yet, in that case, yep, I like them sometimes. :D
    never heard of any of those cnuts being chased for monies owed,most likely never will either......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    :confused::confused:
    :confused::confused::confused:does that mean they morally and ethically believe in their job ? or does it mean its a job and a wage at the end of the week so fcuh it get on with it.
    You tell Pighead what it means! You said it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭mirror mirror


    I worked as debt collector for bout 2 years and i hated but it paid the bills.. **** it i really hated callin to houses where u knew they'd **** all but it was my job and that was that.. im guessing this thread was started because someone has maybe had them on your door step which isnt pleasent for either party!!!!:(
    nope never had any dealings with them,drinking tea with my neighbour when he got got a visit ,turned out a big fcukin mistake.. ....6 fellas calling to collect a supposed 1200euros owed in vat. 2 of the 6 were talking trying to resolve it phoning accountant etc. as for 4 other gob****es, huh, attitude with capital A.when dog tried to pee on one of them it was hilarious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭mirror mirror


    Pighead wrote: »
    You tell Pighead what it means! You said it.
    ???????????????????????????????????????????????????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭mirror mirror


    wait for it,its coming.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    what type of person would do this job ? anyone know one ,what type of character have they.:mad:


    Well, since the Court Officers Act 1945, which amended the Court Officers Act 1926, the answer is that most of the people who act as sheriffs are qualified solicitors.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    wait for it,its coming.
    :confused: Pighead's guessing you've got a few tabs open and that message wasn't meant for here. Not to worry, just copy what you wrote and paste it into your www.cybersex.com tab.
    No real harm done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭mirror mirror


    Pighead wrote: »
    :confused: Pighead's guessing you've got a few tabs open and that message wasn't meant for here. Not to worry, just copy what you wrote and paste it into your www.cybersex.com tab.
    No real harm done.
    you got me there pighead.........whats your favourite =ANIMAL FARM:P:P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    what type of person would do this job ? anyone know one ,what type of character have they.:mad:

    It took me ages to find this story from way back in 1996. The reason I remember it is because the land agent involved in the eviction was a neighbour of mine; he was named Colm Craigie, he was 36 years old, and he took his own life during this very controversial eviction of the Graham family from their 2,300 acre An Grianán estate in Co. Donegal.

    Here's a history of what happened from the Irish Law Archives in 1996:

    https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A2=IRISHLAW;MYSxYg;199612101142000500

    A very dirty job indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,575 ✭✭✭✭PFJSplitter


    What have the Romans ever done for us?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭54kroc


    :confused::confused:
    :confused::confused::confused:does that mean they morally and ethically believe in their job ? or does it mean its a job and a wage at the end of the week so fcuh it get on with it.

    What's wrong with their job mirror mirror?
    They only turn up as a last resort,It's not their fault your neighbor couldn't be arsed sorting out his debt's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    what type of character have they.:mad:

    one with a work ethic which means they took a job rather than being a dole monkey?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭mirror mirror


    cork45 wrote: »
    What's wrong with their job mirror mirror?
    They only turn up as a last resort,It's not their fault your neighbor couldn't be arsed sorting out his debt's.
    1 .i didnt say there was anything wrong with their job, 2 neighbour did keep his vat in order and like i wrote there was a big mix up. i asked a simple question .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭mirror mirror


    :confused:
    Helix wrote: »
    one with a work ethic which means they took a job rather than being a dole monkey?
    what exactly is a dole monkey? is it the countless thousands who lost their jobs, and after paying tax and prsi are entitled to their DOLE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    cork45 wrote: »
    What's wrong with their job mirror mirror?
    They only turn up as a last resort,It's not their fault your neighbor couldn't be arsed sorting out his debt's.

    Not always the case, i know a family where the husband's business went down the tubes after a major contractor client of his went bust. The contractor was able to restart under a different trading name and the poor guy was left with a lot of debt and a very unmerciful Sheriff. He ended up taking his own life so i have no time for the scumbags.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭54kroc


    1 .i didnt say there was anything wrong with their job, 2 neighbour did keep his vat in order and like i wrote there was a big mix up. i asked a simple question .

    Ah fair enough I got the impression that you had a problem with them...My bad.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Yellowblackbird




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Somebody has to do it!

    It's like asking "who becomes a Guard?"

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    I worked as an Enforcement Officer (Bailiff) for 4 years, quitting 3.5years ago when i moved over here.
    I could write a book on what went on, some pretty mad stuff.
    I consider myself a decent enough, pleasant guy. I fell into the job while working the doors, a good friend of mine was a manager in a Bailiff Company and asked if i'd like to give it a shot.
    I maiinly dealt with unpaid fines, taxes and council tax. 50% of the debtors i visited were pure scumbags, the rest were just people who had fallen on hard times. If i went to a house and could see they had no effects (Goods to satisfy the debt) then i'd return it to the courts for further court action.

    What people don't realise is that when i Bailiff knocks on your door it really is the last straw, for example, a guy gets a fine of 100notes. He has 30 days to pay it, he's aware of the fine. (Could even take a means test and pay it weekly) He doesn't pay it, he gets another letter saying that if it's not paid within 28 days it will increase by 50%.
    He still ignores it, a further letter is sent out from the courts giving him 7 days to pay in full before the a Distress Warrant is issued to a Private Bailiff Company.
    He still ignores it, so the Warrant came to us. We send him a letter saying you owe 150 fine and 30 Bailiff charge, total 180. If he did not respond and make a reasonable offer of weekly payments (normally tried to get them cleared in 2 months) then a Bailiff would visit his home and execute the Warrant, incurring a further Bailiff fee of 150quid.
    He ignores that and a Bailiff wil turn up demanding 330 quid or he'll remove goods.

    Some people just will not pay a fine, the amount of people i removed goods from, then ended up visiting them again 6 months later was unreal.

    Some people i felt genuinely sorry for, i'd push them for maybe 10 mins for a payment, if none was forthcoming i'd just return it to the courts, but others, the pure scum who constantly avoided paying fines & taxes i'd take all the way.

    As for getting a Bailiff's Certificate, that was pretty hard, ya had to have a squeeky clean credit record and undergo yearly police checks. Also every 2 years your cert had to be renewed, this entailed an hour meeting with a county court judge who would quiz you on the laws of Distress, if ya didn;t answer correctly, ya didn't get your certificate.

    Loved telling the cops to get lost when they asked me to leave a property, they couldn't touch me :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    scudzilla wrote: »
    I worked as an Enforcement Officer (Bailiff) for 4 years, quitting 3.5years ago when i moved over here.
    I could write a book on what went on, some pretty mad stuff.
    I consider myself a decent enough, pleasant guy. I fell into the job while working the doors, a good friend of mine was a manager in a Bailiff Company and asked if i'd like to give it a shot.
    I maiinly dealt with unpaid fines, taxes and council tax. 50% of the debtors i visited were pure scumbags, the rest were just people who had fallen on hard times. If i went to a house and could see they had no effects (Goods to satisfy the debt) then i'd return it to the courts for further court action.

    What people don't realise is that when i Bailiff knocks on your door it really is the last straw, for example, a guy gets a fine of 100notes. He has 30 days to pay it, he's aware of the fine. (Could even take a means test and pay it weekly) He doesn't pay it, he gets another letter saying that if it's not paid within 28 days it will increase by 50%.
    He still ignores it, a further letter is sent out from the courts giving him 7 days to pay in full before the a Distress Warrant is issued to a Private Bailiff Company.
    He still ignores it, so the Warrant came to us. We send him a letter saying you owe 150 fine and 30 Bailiff charge, total 180. If he did not respond and make a reasonable offer of weekly payments (normally tried to get them cleared in 2 months) then a Bailiff would visit his home and execute the Warrant, incurring a further Bailiff fee of 150quid.
    He ignores that and a Bailiff wil turn up demanding 330 quid or he'll remove goods.

    Some people just will not pay a fine, the amount of people i removed goods from, then ended up visiting them again 6 months later was unreal.

    Some people i felt genuinely sorry for, i'd push them for maybe 10 mins for a payment, if none was forthcoming i'd just return it to the courts, but others, the pure scum who constantly avoided paying fines & taxes i'd take all the way.

    As for getting a Bailiff's Certificate, that was pretty hard, ya had to have a squeeky clean credit record and undergo yearly police checks. Also every 2 years your cert had to be renewed, this entailed an hour meeting with a county court judge who would quiz you on the laws of Distress, if ya didn;t answer correctly, ya didn't get your certificate.

    Loved telling the cops to get lost when they asked me to leave a property, they couldn't touch me :D:D

    Indeed. My experience of the Revenue Sheriff is the same, it's usually people who bury their head in the sand that get bother.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Dealt with a few celebrities in my time, we had an office down in South Wales so once a month i'd work from down there.
    One of the less experienced bailiffs came to me with a problem, he had 8 warrants for non payment of motoring offences for a World Class Snooker Player, so he asked me to help get them paid.
    I rang this Snooker Player, and his agent answered, he said he would not be paying the fines as he disputed them, told him time had gone past that, he had to pay, withh all our fee's, then dispute it. He totally refused, so i told him that the car on the warrant, a Ferrari i believe, was currently parked outside a venue in York where the player was competing, i would be there in 3hrs and weould make sure plenty of press were there also.
    He saw sense and paid :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    what exactly is a dole monkey?

    anyone out of work who wont take whatever job they can get


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Not always the case, i know a family where the husband's business went down the tubes after a major contractor client of his went bust. The contractor was able to restart under a different trading name and the poor guy was left with a lot of debt and a very unmerciful Sheriff. He ended up taking his own life so i have no time for the scumbags.

    Generalization anyone... Keep up the hate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭mirror mirror


    Helix wrote: »
    anyone out of work who wont take whatever job they can get
    understand that alright,even during the BOOM there were a lot of people not bothered to take up a job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭mirror mirror


    scudzilla , thanks for the replies.......own a ferrari and wont pay fines ? brazen out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭54kroc


    scudzilla , thanks for the replies.......own a ferrari and wont pay fines ? brazen out.

    +1 Very interesting scudzilla


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