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PD or Max/MSP

  • 30-11-2009 7:17pm
    #1
    jimi_t
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    If I was to sit down and go to the effort of learning one of these, for music and visual use, which would be the one to go for? I'm talking in a broad context - call it a christmas project :D


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  • #2
    digiology
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭digiology


    Max/MSP is easier to learn, mainly because it comes with decent tutorials. You won't be fluent with either by the end of the christmas holidays but I do recommend taking the time to learn one of them.


  • #3
    jimi_t
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    digiology wrote: »
    Max/MSP is easier to learn, mainly because it comes with decent tutorials. You won't be fluent with either by the end of the christmas holidays but I do recommend taking the time to learn one of them.

    I'm trying to add another skill to my multimedia portfolio - I don't have any illusion about being able to do anything more than the equivalent of 'Hello World' until Spring :D

    But yeah, in terms of a base skill, which is more usefull - Max/MSP or PD? Again, visual stuff would be as important to me as audio stuff, although I use Ableton Live so I'm verging toward Max/MSP


  • #4
    ogy
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    i've only ever used max/msp/jitter but jitter is excellent for video processing. im not sure if theres an equivalent add on for PD. PD is free though, max is a bit pricey. if your a student though the deal on max/msp and jitter is excellent (about 200 or so for the whole let).


  • #5
    kfoltman
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    Neither. Use Csound ;)


  • #6
    madtheory
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    PD has visual capability. They're about the same in terms of what you can do. I'm not into it myself, but to blokes I would trust who are serious audio and programming heads, prefer PD.


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  • #7
    studiorat
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    PD is free.

    Max should have been free, rumor has it that Pd was developed by Miller Phuckett and David Zachrelli. Pd was and still is open source, Zachrelli apparently used it to make Max and licenced it to Opcode or something similar. Phuckett tore srips off him a few years back at a conference...


    I'd go for Pd. Or better still Csound... Or Super Collider.
    I've read that you can connect most of them together using OSC and Jack. But up till now I haven't tried.

    Another groovy free tool is synth edit, you can wrap them as a VST.

    In terms of learning curve I got sound going on my own with Pd from day one, makes it easier to keep on going and it's easy enough to get going with a keyboard.

    Csound is much harder, needed to be shown how to use it at the start. I've only got it happening with a keyboard and it's latent on every platform so far.


  • #8
    digiology
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭digiology


    jimi_t wrote: »
    I'm trying to add another skill to my multimedia portfolio - I don't have any illusion about being able to do anything more than the equivalent of 'Hello World' until Spring :D

    But yeah, in terms of a base skill, which is more usefull - Max/MSP or PD? Again, visual stuff would be as important to me as audio stuff, although I use Ableton Live so I'm verging toward Max/MSP


    I don't know about which looks better on your portfolio but they really aren't that different. As other people have said, Pucket works on both of them.

    If you know one you could pick up the other one within two weeks easily. I recommend max for learning (if cost isn't an issue), you can always switch later on.


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