Some cheap and cheerfull installs

St Senan

I reckon these house owners got what they paid for.

bmaxi

Your third example is exactly what an official Sky installer wanted to do for me. I f*cked him out and insisted Sky send another installer.
As I think I may have mentioned before, getting the "official" installer does not always guarantee a job well done.

St Senan

bmaxi wrote: »

Your third example is exactly what an official Sky installer wanted to do for me. I f*cked him out and insisted Sky send another installer.
As I think I may have mentioned before, getting the "official" installer does not always guarantee a job well done.

That's why people should go to an independant installer for sky installs.

danois

the second picture is the same as what sky installed for me maybe a stupid question but whats wrong with it??

St Senan

danois wrote: »

the second picture is the same as what sky installed for me maybe a stupid question but whats wrong with it??

look where he put the dish look at the cable run an look at the comms box with no door with all the cables feeding the house lying there waiting for some installer to come along and connect a satellite dish to also look at the lump of plaster missing underneath the brick buster {white wall plate} a complete waste of a brick buster

recycler1

scaller wrote: »

look where he put the dish look at the cable run ... also look at the lump of plaster missing underneath the brick buster {white wall plate} a complete waste of a brick buster

Looks pretty OK to me. I've seen FAR worse from a long-standing independent installer. Where would you have put the dish? What else would you have done differently, and why?

scaller wrote: »

look at the comms box with no door with all the cables feeding the house lying there waiting for some installer to come along and connect a satellite dish

There is no way of knowing that the missing door is down to the satellite dish installer.

St Senan

recycler1 wrote: »

Looks pretty OK to me. I've seen FAR worse from a long-standing independent installer. Where would you have put the dish? What else would you have done differently, and why?




There is no way of knowing that the missing door is down to the satellite dish installer.

If the installer was afraid of heights or not had roof ladders or insurance
The dish could have been fitted to the right of the window cable brought straight down to the plinth and up to comms box connected to the cable in comms box feeding into either the Attic or straight to main tv the brick buster should cover up the missing plaster.

I my self would have fitted the dish either on the chimney with cradle and lashing kit or and the rear of the house with stand off brackets feeding the cables into attic.

I did not say the missing door was down to the installer.
If he had of opened his eyes he would have seen the cables there.
And before anyone else jumps the installer should check and see if the window would open if he fitted the dish to the right of it

recycler1

scaller wrote: »

The dish could have been fitted to the right of the window ...... And before anyone else jumps the installer should check and see if the window would open if he fitted the dish to the right of it

So, not really an option.

scaller wrote: »

.....connected to the cable in comms box feeding into either the Attic or straight to main tv the brick buster should cover up the missing plaster.

Yes, this is the best approach if the internal cable run suits. (This not always the case.)

scaller wrote: »

I my self would have fitted the dish either on the chimney with cradle and lashing kit or and the rear of the house with stand off brackets feeding the cables into attic.

Rear of the house is not an option, look at the orientation of the dish.

scaller wrote: »

the brick buster should cover up the missing plaster.

Cmon, that's not a bad job, give the installer a break!

St Senan

Did you install this dish or do you install dishes for a company contracted to sky
Do you install dishes on chimneys of Two storey buildings
Also have you any comments regarding the other 2 pictures

these houses have 2 cables back from the main tv point to the attic and the same from the comms box. if the installer put an effort in to his job he could have run the cables from the dish into the attic instead or running them down over the front window and down beside the front door. Again i ll say a cheap and cheerful install. I would like to here from other installers what they would say about this job and the other 2 pictures
Why give some who does crappy work a break its guys like him and other 2 day crash course afraid of heights and attics installers ENGINEERS that gives this a bad name

recycler1

scaller wrote: »

Did you install this dish or do you install dishes for a company contracted to sky
Do you install dishes on chimneys of Two storey buildings
Also have you any comments regarding the other 2 pictures

Not that it is material, but... no, no and no.
(I rarely work on domestic installations. When I do, it is always FOC, and is only to implement corrective measures.)

scaller wrote: »

Why give some who does crappy work a break its guys like him and other 2 day crash course afraid of heights and attics installers ENGINEERS that gives this a bad name

In most cases there are far better alternatives to putting dishes on the front wall of houses. To my mind, where there are, they should be used, end of. However, there are no regulations against putting dishes on the front of houses and, purely from a technical perspective, this works well and is popular. Likewise, I would not allow an installer drill holes through my walls - but, this is widely done. The installation I commented on here is typical of the approach used by many installers, independent or otherwise. In that context, it is FAR better than many I have seen.

There are mixed opinions on the wisdom of putting Satellite Dishes on Chimneys. Unlike TV Aerials, the height is not necessary for good reception. They are more vulnerable to weathering, and winds, and are more difficult to fix when the inevitable problem arises. In my opinion it is still preferable to mounting a dish on the front of a house. However, others disagree. It may soon be immaterial as technology to allow flat dishes, that can be mounted directly on the wall, is currently well advanced.

Finne1993

scaller wrote: »

these houses have 2 cables back from the main tv point to the attic and the same from the comms box. if the installer put an effort in to his job he could have run the cables from the dish into the attic instead or running them down over the front window and down beside the front door.

I agree to a point that it could have been done a little tidier but what if the 2 cable feeds coming from the attic to main room were used up already with an aerial feed and a return to the rest of the house and the person wanted Sky plus in, the installer would have had no option but to tack the cable down the wall regardless of where the dish was and if it was on the chimney the cables would then be hanging down the slates or tiles and over the gutter which is awful untidy looking. I know I'm probably nitpicking there.

Anyway I agree with you that there are some shocking installs out there but to be honest I have to also agree with Recycler1 that I've seen a helluva lot worse than this one.

snaps

Possibly a DIY install done by eastern europeans. Looks like they have dishes pointed at astra 2 and hotbird. The cabling in the junction box may already be in use for CATV. You dont know until you know the full story.

mustang68

My official installer wanted to just throw the cable over the roof, not secured against the roof tiles, I've seen a lot of installs like that with the cable moving around in the wind.

I suggested that he do it some other way, ten mins later I lost my internet connection, he thought I wasn't using my NTL cable for anything. After that he became angry and did a pretty poor job going through the back of the house. I re cabled it a month later properly, should have done it myself in the first place.

Joey the lips

I never use the official installers since the first one tried to install on the front. I actually got him to leave the cable and dish and paid a roofer to install it.

bmaxi

recycler1 wrote: »

However, there are no regulations against putting dishes on the front of houses and, purely from a technical perspective, this works well and is popular.

Are you sure about that?

14.Can I erect a Satellite Dish without permission?

Yes. Provided that:
a. Only 1 per house.
b. Max. Diameter 1 metre.
c. Not to be erected on, or forward to the front wall of the house.
d. Not to be erected on the front roof slope or higher than the highest part of the roof.
(Page 157, Class 4, 1 - 4).

this is an excerpt from the planning pages of DLRCC http://www.dlrcoco.ie/planning/oftenasked.htm
but I think it is fairly standard.

Tony

+1

bmaxi wrote: »

Are you sure about that?

14.Can I erect a Satellite Dish without permission?

Yes. Provided that:
a. Only 1 per house.
b. Max. Diameter 1 metre.
c. Not to be erected on, or forward to the front wall of the house.
d. Not to be erected on the front roof slope or higher than the highest part of the roof.
(Page 157, Class 4, 1 - 4).

this is an excerpt from the planning pages of DLRCC http://www.dlrcoco.ie/planning/oftenasked.htm
but I think it is fairly standard.

recycler1

bmaxi wrote: »

Are you sure about that?

Obviously not! As I said, I don't do domestic installations and I'm absolutely delighted to be corrected on this one.

Thank You.

Koloman

snaps wrote: »

Possibly a DIY install done by eastern europeans.

Excuse me?! What's that supposed to mean? Do only Eastern Europeans mess up installations?

recycler1

Koloman wrote: »

Excuse me?! What's that supposed to mean? Do only Eastern Europeans mess up installations?

No, no, no. The exact opposite, a nice tidy installation, as expected.

John mac

Here's a nice neat install.

steveon

Dont think Eircom would be 2 chuffed to see a dish up there...lol I wouldnt like to be doing a service call on it on a windy day lmao.

Also would have taught it illegal to place anything there in the first place.??

kbell

Had a guy once who wanted me to put his dish on an ESB pylon, not a pole but big steel pylon in the neighbouring field as his property was obscured by trees.
And actually took the hump when i point blank refused.. lol

watty

You actually can rent space off ESB on a pylon for a Dish. Never heard of it for TVRO (home satellite), but not uncommon for Microwave Network operators etc.

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kbell

Wasn't aware of that Watty.
Doubt this guy would have wanted an annual rental charge to the ESB on top of his Sky sub.. lol