Are you envious/jealous of younger people more successful than you?

darkman2

I don't know how it feels but a BBC commentator made a point about younger people on a sports program tonight. He said "only born in 1990 - makes you feel mad does'nt it?" about a sports person doing well in his sport about to make millions.

I remember being 15 and saying to 18 year olds about the fact the ROI under 17's were in the semi final of the world cup in soccer some years back. They came out with all abusive stuff like - "their gay" etc.....however it was jealously. Here were people younger then them doing better then them.


Do you think Irish people have a hang up about younger people being richer and more successful then the older folk? Or is it the same in all countries. You just don't like seeing a younger person do better then you?

Is it a natural reaction? - i.e you are some sort of failure because someone younger then you has achieved more then you?

Is there a bias do you think?

4zn76tysfajdxp

Yup. I'm just like all of the above.

Jesus Wept

I see this in some people I know.
Some people will find any reason to be bitchy about people they view as more sucessful than them.
I don't feel that I think this way much.

Hoever I'm not a fan of people who seem to have far more success than their talents/skillset should bring, people who are punching way above their weight and are oblivious to it.

Also, something that irks me is when I see some weird (creepily false older acting) kid of about 7 years old or so that is on some tv show/talent show and says that something has been their 'lifelong dream'.



I want to punch them in the face.

KungPao

*than*

I'd say I get a little annoyed. Although I haven't really done anything with my life so far, so I have way too many people to be jealous of, therefore, for the most part, I just let it slide.


Yep... I'm cool like that. :cool:

darkman2

The-Rigger wrote: »

I see this in some people I know.
Some people will find any reason to be bitchy about people they view as more sucessful than them.
I don't feel that I think this way much.

Hoever I'm not a fan of people who seem to have far more success than their talents/skillset should bring, people who are punching way above their weight and are oblivious to it.

Also, something that irk is when I some weird (creepily false older acting) kid of about 7 years old or so that is on some tv show/talent show and says that something has been their 'lifelong dream'.



I want to punch them in the face.

I take it you mean the likes of David Beckham - thick as pig **** - yet rich because of a good foot. He can't do anything else and is not exactly curing cancer but he is a millionaire.

That does get to me sometimes - and im far younger then him!

KungPao

I had very little ambition in school, I have very little ambition now. I am 28.

Honestly, I don't give a shít if some whippersnapper has a nicer car than me, or a better salary.

We'll all be rotting corpses before we know it anyway! No time to be stressing about Fintan and his big house!

Jesus Wept

darkman2 wrote: »

I take it you mean the likes of David Beckham - thick as pig **** - yet rich because of a good foot. He can't do anything else and is not exactly curing cancer but he is a millionaire.

That does get to me sometimes - and im far younger then him!

lol, I really don't.
Bags of footballing talent, also I don't think he is thick.

If I think of any examples, I'll post back.



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Maybe someone like Kayne West who goes on and on about himself like he is the second coming but is completly sh1t, he just takes a few samples and then puts a really horrible cheesey rap over it.
And the saps who think it's great.

TamNaz

Some people are just exceptional...some, just lucky.

Others...exceptionally lucky.

But nobody rides for free. Many who receive too much too soon usually muck it up in one way or another. Enormous mistakes made, and often in the limelight.

I prefer my wreckage to be more private-like. (Easier to push under the rug and waltz off whistling.)

so nope...don't envy 'em.

Victor McDade

I don't begrudge rich people that are younger than me but saying that, I'll be pissed when the day arrives that I find myself working for someone younger.

I'd say it'll be hard to respect this young kid who's telling me what to do

stovelid

I'm jealous of people like Stephen Ireland until I see one of his cars.

My name is URL

They can go to hell.. cheeky little bastards doing well for themselves, how dare they... garlic bread

PCPhoto

meh ...

some people dont deserve it some I'd have no problem with.....examples.

I would have no problem if someone left school at 15 and worked their way up through a business to eventually run the business.....but if some kid of 17/18 was handed the company (or managerial role) just because daddy owned the company and wanted to give it to him for his birthday...then I would feel pished off.

anyone that has a talent at something deserves to be rewarded - but the amount of hangers-on those people have is usually unreal.

I could always blame myself if I'm not successful in business - I've had opportunities to expand but my own fear of the unknown has resulted in stopping myself from becoming super rich/successful..... I've had plenty of ideas for successful businesses but never expand them....some day I'll make my money....some day :rolleyes:

Captain Slow IRL

PCPhoto wrote: »

..........................I would have no problem if someone left school at 15 and worked their way up through a business to eventually run the business.....but if some kid of 17/18 was handed the company (or managerial role) just because daddy owned the company and wanted to give it to him for his birthday.............

I agree 100% with this - our boss's son is been "groomed" to take over the business but he has more interest in spending the fortune his dad's built up than taking any serious interest in the business. When his dad pulls out altogether, I can see the place going downhill.

On the opposite end of the scale, I've a friend who came from a broken home and has worked his arse off to get various degrees for his career - he's now very successful, living in Edinburgh and making a mint. The man deserves every penny he makes!

Lemondrop kid

Yes. Yes I am

Elba101

I know some people who have great jobs because of Mammy and Daddy, not because they're good at their job...that p!sses me off!!

But if they've worked hard for it and they're good at it, than fair paly:p

opinion guy

this is nothing to do with age. Irish people feel the need to tear down anyone of any age who i successful. We are a nation of begrudgers

the_dark_side

if you look at it like this, there almost always will be someone younger than you who will excel at what they do, or be better than you at what you do best. Learn to accept it as part of life.

When I was ten, I made a meal out of learning the piano, then now I see the 6 year old Oriental prodigees playing at an insane standard. Theres that Japanese golfer Ishikawa, who at 17 years old looks like he has been playing a lifetime. And as you get older, the pool of younger people who are really talented at everything, becomes bigger and bigger. So if you want to stand out, try and develop some skill thats unique to you, so that by then time your 60, your chances of being really good are greater

confusedgirl

I think family can only really help someone in terms of college tuition or connections but there are other people from rich families who are just dossers! It does boil down to the person ultimately. Nepotism still does happen but lets face it, we'd all milk family connections if we could. I know someone whos a doctor and whilst the money is great etc, it is a big slog to get there in terms of study etc. So as long as someone does the work, then the success is well earned!

seanybiker

everyone is more successful than me. I couldnt care less what age they are. Im happy surviving:)

kowloon

I get annoyed when I see someone who has crawled to the top on other peoples backs and is pleased with themselves for being a winner.
It's more to do with attitude than age though, a lot of them just happen to be in their 30s now.

Earthhorse

Not exclusively.

deadbloke

Youth and talent are no match for age and trechery

FlawedGenius

It pi$$e$ me off to see proffessional footballers who and are not much better than the average park player, yet got very lucky that somebody noticed them, like Paul McShane!:rolleyes:
+ Celebrities like Jade Goody and Jedward! Famous for being fcuken ejits!:rolleyes:

Orlaithc9

success is living your life the way you want it

Bill-e

If the person reminded me of myself then I'd be a little green.

When I came out of college I started on a few grand more then my older brother, who'd been working for 3 years. He did say to me that I was a "Jammy bastard". However, a bit later he applied for a better job and now makes a huge amount more then I do. Fair play is what I say.

InReality

as I get a bit older yes .. but just a bit. I know I have a bit more cop on than most of the young eager beavers and the talented ones I see will be successfull wheater (sp) i'm wasting my time envying them or not.

But if I see someone who is pretty similar to me , say 10 years younger , and can see how better "balanced" they are than i was then , i'm get a bit annoyed with myself.

<starts psychoanalysis again>

sunnyside

The-Rigger wrote: »

Hoever I'm not a fan of people who seem to have far more success than their talents/skillset should bring, people who are punching way above their weight and are oblivious to it.
.

Are you jealous of Jedward?

KungPao wrote: »

Honestly, I don't give a shít if some whippersnapper has a nicer car than me, !

I felt jealous of someones 30k car yesterday.

Jesus Wept

sunnyside wrote: »

Are you jealous of Jedward?



I felt jealous of someones 30k car yesterday.

Edward and John are great.

Lemondrop kid

Earthhorse wrote: »

Not exclusively.

He he he

deadbloke wrote: »

Youth and talent are no match for age and trechery

Again, he he he

j1smithy

When I was working in my last office job there was one guy there about 20 years older than the rest of us and had risen to group manager but was going no further. I guess you could say he'd hit the glass ceiling. He had been passed over for promotion many times and was now taking orders from someone just over half his age. You could see that he had given up, but none the less was still a bitter bitter man.

RMD

It's not just Ireland, it's the whole world. Think about it, would you be jealous of a person who's achieved more than you in the same time you had available?

Rethorical question.

Dutchie

Can somebody quantify 'succesful'? i
Is it how happy/content you are, how much your worth, the car you drive, how good you are at sport.

Ickle Magoo

I don't really think about it -after all, there could still be a day where I am more successful/happier/richer/whatever than most - I don't want to write myself off quite yet!

I don't think there is any point in resenting someone else's life, as long as I'm happy with mine and working towards where I want to go. If I get to my deathbed & I have a thousand regrets of opportunities I squandered then I might be jealous of someone who spent their time better.

DaveSlats

I have never met a younger, or for that matter older, person who has been better at being me than me.

So, no.

Dudess

Nope - stuff that's beyond your control generally isn't worth getting bothered about.

Although that said, I can understand a person aged 55 being pissed off with a (to them) kid of 30 bossing them around - when the 55-year-old has been working their way up since before the 30-year-old was born, and the 30-year-old has that position because of a commerce degree and a management training course.

Any key?

Maybe in a few years
Right now I'm the youngest on my staff and I'm successful IMO sooooo happy enough for the mo:D

stepbar

Ah meh shur half of the Apprentice folk are on the Dole. Am I jealous? Not in the slightest!