****e RTE has inflicted on us

Wheelsonthebus

Hi All,

After hearing those two talentless dimwits have got their own show which the dog on the street knows is going to be rubbish and the latest tripe which has been offered from the RTE "comedy" department. I just want to make a list of the absolute rubbish that RTE have produced in the past few years which we have had the pleasure of paying for. How some of the stuff they have offered ever saw the light of day is beyond me.
If it's not some god awful chat show where some obnoxious RTE stiff is interviewing more talentless RTE stiffs, it's some blatant rip off of a successful formula which has worked on British TV but RTE are just too CHEAP to pay for the rights to. X factor- the All Ireland Talent show anyone? Baz what's his face stays with some lunatics for a weekend- louis theroux's weird weekends anyone? Neil Delamere's Republic of Telly- Harry Hill's TV Burp. The list goes on except in the usual tradition of RTE they are absolute crap.
Now in RTE's defense I haven't bothered to watch half of these shows I'm complaining about. Mainly because my usual optimistic attitude to homegrown stuff has taken such a battering over the years by the "creative" department in RTE and I have a brain. I never watched "The Byrne Ultimatum" mainly because this fool was not funny 15 years ago- why would he be funny now? I never watched Neil Delamere's thing because it was such a blatant rip off and just seemed incredibly unfunny. From reading here and other places I was 100% right. I never watched the "All Ireland Talent show" (Thank god) until last weekend when I flicked over and saw four muckeleros singing "The Black Velvet Band" to that insufferable Blathnaid Ni Whatever. I just though "yip!" and flicked straight back over. Exactly what I had imagined.
Now we have another unfunny creation in Val Falvey TD, which I also couldn't be bothered watching cos my senses have been so numbed by RTE but from what I hear is more car crash TV.

Also from what I hear it's that one from the "Nualas" and her brother who are to blame for everything. How do all these failed hacks in RTE still keep getting gigs?

So anyway here goes- hoping to avoid the usual complaining about "Nationwide" and nature documentaries which to be fair to RTE- they are the national broadcaster and do have to appeal to a broad range of the population and nationwide etc. do what they say on the tin.

So here are some of my offerings-

-"The Lucy Kennedy Show"
-"The Big Bow Wow"
-"Failte Towers"
-"Celebrity Jigs and Reels"
-"The Byrne Ultimatum"
-"Republic of Telly"
-"The All Ireland Talent Show"
-"You're a Star"
-"The Roaring Twenties"
-"Making Jake"

Others

-"The English Class"
-"Colm and Jim Jim's Home Run"

Unless RTE are trying to be ironic in making some of these programmes in an Alan Partridge/ Andy Kauffman kind of way and in 10 years time we'll find out the joke was actually on us. I just cant understand how these things actually get put on our screens.

Any more suggestions?

*Oh ya and I didn't add "The Panel" which I think is absolute rubbish mainly cos I know a fair amount of people do like it but I think is about as funny as genital warts. It's like putting 5 teenagers up and on stage to discuss "current affairs" and they get about 30 seconds into a piss take of politicians before the whole thing descends into laughing about farting noises and getting mad drunk etc.

NightStrike

The thing about RTE is that they have, in general, no idea what the public wants. That's from having it too easy for too long with the public's money. As you say most of their 'best' ideas come from rip offs of previously successful shows while some of their most successful programmes down through the years have been imports whether it be Friends, EastEnders, Prison Break or whatever but by and large they have no idea what the people want. That's why they pay relatively talentless people that the public can't actually stand exorbitant amounts of money and continuously put them in various different shows.

RTE - Really out of Touch with Everyone

asdfgh86

Don't hate Rte as much as some people on here but this show was one of the most pathetic attempts at comedy I've ever seen.

http://www.rte.ie/tv/theenglishclass/

cosmic

Great to see they're putting out TV License money to good use :rolleyes:... :mad:

Ger the man

Wheelsonthebus wrote: »

Hi All,

After hearing those two talentless dimwits have got their own show which the dog on the street knows is going to be rubbish and the latest tripe which has been offered from the RTE "comedy" department. .

How anyone in there right mind can say they have talent is idiotic..

Aidric

Wheelsonthebus wrote: »

Unless RTE are trying to be ironic in making some of these programmes in an Alan Partridge/ Andy Kauffman kind of way and in 10 years time we'll find out the joke was actually on us.

lol, chances of that are slim.

Basq

Hey hey.. don't rag on Lucy Kennedy!

He's hilarious!

dodgyme

One word

colm and jim jims home run

Wheelsonthebus

asdfgh86 wrote: »

Don't hate Rte as much as some people on here but this show was one of the most pathetic attempts at comedy I've ever seen.

http://www.rte.ie/tv/theenglishclass/

Dont hate RTE either, I just think no one ever seems accountable for wasting tax payers money in this country in any walk of life and would like a list so we could see the extent of their wastefulness.

This one seems to have passed me by- thank god by the look of it! I'll add it to the list.

Oh ya- cant believe I forgot this one "Colm and Jim-Jim's Home Run" never watched it I admit but mainly due to the fact I've never had a frontal lobotomy. I'll add that too.

Wheelsonthebus

dodgyme wrote: »

One word

colm and jim jims home run

Snap- ha ha

Ivan

I dont know, considering how much we Irish enjoy complaining it seems like RTE is providing a very valuable service in that respect.

Elmo

Wheelsonthebus wrote: »

Dont hate RTE either, I just think no one ever seems accountable for wasting tax payers money in this country in any walk of life and would like a list so we could see the extent of their wastefulness.

The list of bad entertainment shows this year has been phenomenal even by RTÉ standards :mad: but that is only one strand of TV that they are doing and RTÉ also have serveral other things that they have do deal with under the law. So it is not just about TV.

Click on the link to see how I feel, in my sig.

The Pontiac

RTE has made some great dramas in the past like Pure Mule and Bachelors Walk. These shows prove that RTE can make good productions with great acting and good storylines. Pure Mule had only a total of seven episodes ever made, and Bachelors Walk had only thirteen episodes released over three seasons. Why aren't they put on longer runs over a few seasons - like TV dramas in the US - with 12-13 episodes per season, that maybe run for five or six seasons (usual duration)?

Plus one for Colm and Jim Jim. Dismal.

Elmo

<Ollie> wrote: »

RTE has made some great dramas in the past like Pure Mule and Bachelors Walk. These shows prove that RTE can make good productions with great acting and good storylines. Pure Mule had only a total of seven episodes ever made, and Bachelors Walk had only thirteen episodes released over three seasons. Why aren't they put on longer runs over a few seasons - like TV dramas in the US - with 12-13 episodes per season, that maybe run for five or six seasons (usual duration)?

Because Drama cost allot more money to make, The Clinic cost 5.5million a year to make for just 10 episodes. US TV produces many dramas across 5 main channels and 2 cable networks, which they earn back all of the money just on advertising revenue with in the US, then they sell all of those shows to every other country in the world. RTÉ found it difficult to get The Clinic sold, it did sell but only after 20 episodes had been produced.

It is far cheaper to produce tat. But then I would blame the Head of Entertainment Commissions in RTÉ more so than the indo producers or even producers in RTÉ. He has been the worst Commissioner in RTÉ's history and should be let go. I don't know when he started but he seems not only unable to understand the word Entertainment but he seems to walk on everyone outside the RTÉ organisation as well. He IMO seems to be a complete waste of time.

CliffHuxtabel

<Ollie> wrote: »

RTE has made some great dramas in the past like Pure Mule and Bachelors Walk. These shows prove that RTE can make good productions with great acting and good storylines. Pure Mule had only a total of seven episodes ever made, and Bachelors Walk had only thirteen episodes released over three seasons. Why aren't they put on longer runs over a few seasons - like TV dramas in the US - with 12-13 episodes per season, that maybe run for five or six seasons (usual duration)?

yeah maybe it would be interesting (and more challenging) to name a list of programs produced by our national broadcaster that are actually good

ill start us off...

erm.....ah.....sorry no

Elmo

CliffHuxtabel wrote: »

yeah maybe it would be interesting (and more challenging) to name a list of programs produced by our national broadcaster that are actually good

ill start us off...

erm.....ah.....sorry no

Prime Time
Arts Lives
True Lives
Scannal/Lergas
Pure Mule
No Tears
Whistleblower
States of Fear
DFTG
The Den
Documentaries
Sports coverage
Batchelor's Walk
Paths To Freedom
The Panel
Reeling in the Years
Love is the Drug
Raw
The Clinic
Single Handed
Father and Son
I could go on but it would be just as futile as make a list of shows that aren't as good.

RTÉ have produced numerous good shows but generally we tend to look at the bad ones and that is due in particular this year to the ****e that they have inflicted on us this season. Generally there is actually at least one show each year that people talk about in a good light from RTÉ this year is not the case, one show after the other, pure ****e mainly coming from their Entertainment Department.

enfant terrible

Thanks god for the BBC

CliffHuxtabel

Elmo wrote: »

Prime Time
Arts Lives
True Lives
Scannal/Lergas
Pure Mule
No Tears
Whistleblower
States of Fear
DFTG
The Den
Documentaries
Sports coverage
Batchelor's Walk
Paths To Freedom
The Panel
Reeling in the Years
Love is the Drug
Raw
The Clinic
Single Handed
Father and Son
I could go on but it would be just as futile as make a list of shows that aren't as good.

RTÉ have produced numerous good shows but generally we tend to look at the bad ones and that is due in particular this year to the ****e that they have inflicted on us this season. Generally there is actually at least one show each year that people talk about in a good light from RTÉ this year is not the case, one show after the other, pure ****e mainly coming from their Entertainment Department.

take out stuff like Prime Time, sports coverage, the den (generic stuff- you know what I mean) I agree with the stuff in bold.

The Panel, Raw are not good full stop.

Youve opened my eyes though

The Pontiac

CliffHuxtabel wrote: »

yeah maybe it would be interesting (and more challenging) to name a list of programs produced by our national broadcaster that are actually good

ill start us off...

erm.....ah.....sorry no

Oh sorry, I wasn't supposed to compliment RTE. We have to hate everything they produce; it's just a lot cooler.

CliffHuxtabel

<Ollie> wrote: »

Oh sorry, I wasn't supposed to compliment RTE. We have to hate everything they produce; it's just a lot cooler.

its not about being cool...its just that alot of the stuff they produce is ridiculously bad


its nothing personal ollie

Elmo

CliffHuxtabel wrote: »

take out stuff like Prime Time, sports coverage, the den (generic stuff- you know what I mean) I agree with the stuff in bold.

The Panel, Raw are not good full stop.

So the majority of the work that RTÉ produce is good?

When I mention the panel I really was talking about its early years.

Raw I wouldn't be a big fan off but I was surprised to see so many people rate it, I suppose it is better than Grey's Anatomy or Private Practice if that is what you are comparing it to and plenty of people for some reason like them.

CliffHuxtabel

Elmo wrote: »

So the majority of the work that RTÉ produce is good?

When I mention the panel I really was talking about its early years.

Raw I wouldn't be a big fan off but I was surprised to see so many people rate it, I suppose it is better than Grey's Anatomy or Private Practice if that is what you are comparing it to and plenty of people for some reason like them. And the stuff you didn't bold is really just your opinion which is fine but it doesn't mean some thing is bad. Have you ever watched a True Live or Arts Lives documentry? Do you know what States of Fear is? Have you seen Paths To Freedom? I agree that Love is the Drug was quite average but it wasn't ****e.

it kinda goes both ways elmo....you think all the shows listed are amazing but thats just your opinion too.. for us to argue over these things would be a war of attrition

art lives/true lives?....meh! states of fear?.....RTE make good enough documentaries...fair enough

love is the drug - not for me

paths to freedom - no not for me

bottom line for me is that the entertainment/comedy and drama departments of rte are not up to snuff

apart from sport and current affairs/documentaries the rte product is poor

Elmo

CliffHuxtabel wrote: »

it kinda goes both ways elmo....you think all the shows listed are amazing but thats just your opinion too.. for us to argue over these things would be a war of attrition

art lives/true lives?....meh! states of fear?.....RTE make good enough documentaries...fair enough

love is the drug - not for me

paths to freedom - no not for me

bottom line for me is that the entertainment/comedy and drama departments of rte are not up to snuff

apart from sport and current affairs/documentaries the rte product is poor

Arts lives and True Lives are a set of quality documentaries that RTÉ commission from independent producers each year they are always well received. States of Fear exposed may of the abuses with in the Catholic Church.

It does work both ways but many of the shows weather you or I like them or not that I have mention have been well received (with the exception of Raw which if find strange that so many people like).

And I am agreeing with you that their Entertainment Dept is ****e and the Head of Entertainment should be let go right now. I am calling on RTÉ to fire one of their staff for not working in a correct manner and for loosing RTÉ Two audience, he needs to be removed from his position.

The Drama department however is quite good (could be better). Fair City isn't my guide on this front but then I would never suggests that the BBC do great drama - which they do - and then point to EastEnders or Casualty. However I would like to see the previous Head of Drama return to her position.

I think if you are to be honest and put Paths To Freedom and Love is the Drug up against CSI or any of the US shows I have mention (I have mention bad yet for some reason popular ones) you would even say that while they are not for me they are 100 times better.

Of course drama costs money, The Clinic which has been axed was costing RTÉ 5.5Million now compare that to the kind of money spend just on production alone on Desparate Housewives?

However just because a show that one individual doesn't like is produce does mean it should be axed or got rid of. The main problem and I cannot emphasise this enough is the Entertainment Commissions: -

1. The Byrne Ultimatum
2. The Rodge and Podge Stick it Inn
3. Winning Streak
4. The Republic of Telly
5. The Panel (just for the way it has gone)
6. Ryan Confidential

Just in one year, that is not good!