X-Factor Gay Romance/Scandal?

White-Teeth

What does everyone make of the Lloyd/Danyl rumors that are floating around?

Now, normally I'd dismiss these as silly rumors. Internet message boards and even magazines have been covering the story (see here).

To find out more, I asked a friend who works back stage on the show. He confirmed that the production staff has known about it for awhile. Supposedly they were caught by production staff (a stylist, to be precise). Simon Cowell's P.R. team are said to be terrified the news will get out. The press reportedly know about the story, but are not running with it for the time-being.

The rumor is also backed up by this "X-Factor in Crisis" story that ran a few weeks ago. Allegedly Lloyd's family were called in, but the press has kept mum. Interesting.

Would this ruin the show if it turned out to be true? There's nothing illegal going on, since Lloyd is 16, the age of consent in Britain. But a 27 year old with a 16 year old would certainly raise eyebrows.

Before anyone starts, I'm not trying to ruin contestants' chances. I'd actually like to see Danyl win.

Biggins

Lloyd/Danyl ???

Immaterial anyway!

p.s. have you got any link(s) to back up this new mad story???
...Where is this rubbish coming from?
If something like this can't be linked to a checkable/clickable RELIABLE news source, I don't think it should be posted!

I can't stand Big Gob Danyl myself but this type of unproven rubbish is what fills the Sun and the Star daily. Pure garbage!

Moving on...

White-Teeth

I thought it was silly, too, but like I said, the more I look into it, the more there was to back it up.

I don't think it's immaterial. Let's face it, this show isn't just about the singing. It's about the drama, too. The weekly arguments the judges have prove that much.

White-Teeth

I posted a link in my original post to Vexed magazine. Here it is again. The News of the World article is interesting if you read between the lines. The writer knows more than they're letting on.

There's also this article in Vanity Edge.

And threads on Digitial Spy (the Holy Grail of reality T.V.).

More links here

and here (although you have to be a member to see it).

EDIT: I thought this might be controversial. You'll not the careful phrasing of my original post. I don't state anything as fact. Like I said, these rumors have been floating around message boards for ages.

Biggins

So there is one web page with this story and the rest are forums (Vanityedge is a FORUM - not an article - here is your correct link: http://www.vanityedge.com/showthread.php?t=270)!
I'm sorry, while the story MIGHT be true, I decline to just take forum chatter as absolute proof.
This type of rubbish ruins carriers before they can even get started.

...and Danyl has a boyfriend already anyway. The two was pictured holding hands a couple of weeks ago coming out of the X-Factor house.

White-Teeth

Only ONE of those FOUR links are from Internet forums. The others are articles (in Vexed, Digital Spy, and Vanity Edge).

I posted the message board one just to show that I wasn't inventing this off the top of my head -- to illustrate that the rumors have been circulating for awhile.

Biggins

...the more there was to back it up.

1. So we have "Vexed" as a pure gossip scraping-up scandal site (the web equivalent of the Sun/Star) saying something UNPROVEN!!!
2 & 3. "Digital Spy" with a DENIAL from Lloyd about actually being gay - and thats ALL - and public chat forum!
4. Vanity edge - public chat forum!
Where is the "back up" from actual news articles?

Only ONE of those FOUR links

I think you might want to do a recount.

For example:
I must be going blind and stupid!
This sure looks like a forum to me!!!



O' and NOWHERE does the REAL article ""X-Factor in Crisis" mention in any way direct or by hint as to Lloyd and/or Danyl and their persuasions or possible actions other than Danyl as we all know now, annoying Stacy about her talents and being away from her kid!
Why throw that in as possible proof - or even a source???

White-Teeth

For the third time, I didn't present it as "proof".

Biggins

White-Teeth wrote: »

For the third time, I didn't present it as "proof".

In that case it shouldn't be here - thats some serious stuff and its dragging two people names through the mud.
Possibly for no reason.

EKRIUQ

More power to them, who cares if Lyold is only 16 and Danyl is 27 there above the the legal age of consent. Shame their keeping this as a big secret, maybe now Jedward is gone they might make it as the news story of the week.

Biggins

I personally hope Lloyd and/or Danyl gets to sue Vexmag asses off for attempting to broadcast such liable/gossip items without provable evidence.
..and I don't even like either of them!

White-Teeth

Biggins, you said: "O' and NOWHERE does the REAL article ""X-Factor in Crisis" mention in any way direct or by hint as to Lloyd and/or Danyl and their persuasions or possible actions other than Danyl as we all know now, annoying Stacy about her talents and being away from her kid!
Why throw that in as possible proof - or even a source???

The NoTW article mentions that Olly and Stacey shared a kiss. It also makes reference to another romance happening in the house:

One contestant was shocked to discover text messages on a mobile phone between two others discussing their feelings for each other - in complete defiance of a 'no-relationship' rule.

All I'm saying is, ask someone if you know anyone working behind the scenes of the X-Factor about this "secret romance" (it's more likely than you think, they have a very big production staff) and they'll clear it up for you. It's not Olly and Stacey, everyone knows about that; it's been mentioned numerous times. This article states there's a romance going on but keeps the names hush.

EDIT: You initially said I couldn't quote any sources, and now you're saying the should sue that magazine for saying this. Which source did you want me to quote? Newspapers and magazines obviously aren't good enough.

Biggins

White-Teeth wrote: »

The NoTW article mentions that Olly and Stacey shared a kiss. It also makes reference to another romance happening in the house:

One contestant was shocked to discover text messages on a mobile phone between two others discussing their feelings for each other - in complete defiance of a 'no-relationship' rule.

Actually if you bothered to post the full text as it appears in order, people would have seen the previous PRE-TEXT!

The north London house has descended into chaos with the wannabes allowed to run riot.
One contestant was shocked to discover text messages on a mobile phone between two others discussing their feelings for each other - in complete defiance of a 'no-relationship' rule

So as most of us know now - this probably refers to Olly and Stacy! The article even hints this too (surprise!) by including a picture of Stacy with the words under it "Secret Kiss"
So where again - is the Lloyd/Danyl reference and/or hint???

( - and by the way, till the printing of that article on its date, there had been no public mention of any relationship between Olly and Stacy or anyone in the house otherwise.
They, the paper, were the first to hint at THEIR romance with this one article. The public THEN became aware of it.)

The article shifts topic and goes right on to...

And cheeky 18-year-old Jedward twins Jed and Edward Grimes were caught giggling over internet porn as they waited for a singing lesson, etc...

Where does the article bring up "another" romance (as you state) or reference to it exactly (or anywhere)?

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You initially said I couldn't quote any sources, and now you're saying the should sue that magazine for saying this. Which source did you want me to quote? Newspapers and magazines obviously aren't good enough.

They might be if you could produce them.
Where are the NEWSPAPER and MAGAZINE paper articles directly mentioning this supposed sexual contact between two male adults?
Actually, where is any genuine news/magazine paper or web articles...?

...and as regards sources, I actually said...

If something like this can't be linked to a checkable/clickable RELIABLE news source...

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Gossip websites trying to draw attention for attention sake is not a good source of any description.
Relying on public forum chat is even worse and will only be taken as any type of "source" by a lesser intuitive person!

I personally don't consider gossip/muck raking dirt as a "source" - just call it what it is - unsubstantiated chat gossip in text form of a poor one web site Vex post!

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To sum up again, we have:
1. "Vexed" pure gossip scraping-up scandal site - without even a token effort of proof or naming a source of its own!
2 & 3. "Digital Spy" One item - Lloyd not being gay (thats ALL) - and public chat forum!
4. Vanity edge - public chat forum!
Where is the "back up" from actual genuine news articles please?

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Again,
IF this no proof (just one gossip) site and a few chat forums are true - so what? Seriously - so what!
What they do as legally covered consenting people is out of the bounds of the contest.
PR-wise it might not be seen as too good but then only those with more ridged ideology fixed attitudes will have a problem with any such relationship.

That_Guy

It's this media bullsh*t that ruins everything.

Two people who put themselves forward for a talent show, do well in it and are now known all over the UK and Ireland for the right reasons.....

until

The Sun/Star and all those other rags come along and say "oh... there's not much news happening. Let's look at the X-Factor and drag two people through the dirt by saying they're gay".

They should be ashamed of themselves. If they are... so what?
It doesn't make them bad people if it is true.

suitcasepink

Tbf There has been media speculations about nearly everyone, doubt they're true somehow.
Lloyd/Danyl
Lloyd/Lucy
Lloyd/Jamie
Ollie/Stacey
Jamie/Coco
Joe/Lucy
Joe/Rachel
Also about Edward being gay. Most likely all complete bull.

Oh and 'That Guy', I do remember reading somewhere its stated no romance while inside the X Fcator house. That sounds more believable doesnt mean it is true.

Biggins

Apparently the Jamie/Coco might be true.
Even Jamie admitted that they were "at it" in a number of recent interviews.
(I'm keeping mind that he might just be playing a publicity game himself)

Ollie/Stacey?
I'd like to think so.
They mightn't be to everyone's taste but each to their own and she does come across as genuine from start to finish.

LizT

Don't forget Joe/Cheryl!!!

Some of the rumours are completely ridiculous and until there's any proof, we should regard them as just that - rumours!

White-Teeth

Will Young let slip that Joe's gay.

EDIT: That's in response to the Joe/Cheryl rumor.

Teferi

White-Teeth wrote: »

Will Young let slip that Joe's gay.

EDIT: That's in response to the Joe/Cheryl rumor.

Did you know the sky is blue?

Fink Goddie

Joe is deffo Gay, thats really obvious!

sold

WHO CARES!!, Let them be gay.. neither a really great singers anyway.

That_Guy

deise_girl wrote: »

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Oh and 'That Guy', I do remember reading somewhere its stated no romance while inside the X Fcator house. That sounds more believable doesnt mean it is true.

Well fair enough but tbh I really don't care about these people's personal lives and neither should all the rags who speculate on such matters.

Keano

To answer the questions re appearing in print media, "apparantely" Simon has told British press they can have any story they want regarding X-Factor if they dont print the "rumours".

jd007

Teferi wrote: »

Did you know the sky is blue?

:eek::eek::eek:

BolBill

if anyone is gay its Joe.

Howjoe1

when i saw this thread i was expecting Joe's name to be appear as one of the two.

probably all a load of rubbish

That_Guy

BolBill wrote: »

if anyone is gay its Joe.

And if he is does that make him any different from anybody else?

Howjoe1

sold wrote: »

WHO CARES!!, Let them be gay.. neither a really great singers anyway.

eh, i don't think anyone every claimed they are "great singers". except Simon and the other judges

White-Teeth

Teferi wrote: »

Did you know the sky is blue?

Ha ha, fair point.

It was interesting. Remember when that whole Dannii "outing" Danyl controversy arose? In the paper the next day Cheryl was quoted as saying, "Get behind our X-Factor Gays". I'm highlighting the plural. Interesting choice of words.

Biggins

White-Teeth wrote: »

Ha ha, fair point.

It was interesting. Remember when that whole Dannii "outing" Danyl controversy arose? In the paper the next day Cheryl was quoted as saying, "Get behind our X-Factor Gays". I'm highlighting the plural. Interesting choice of words.

I thought I (and the wife) heard her on TV at an interview saying (with her strong accent) "...get behind our X-Factor guys" but if you can show where your version of words is stated, that statement by yourself will stand.

White-Teeth

Biggins wrote: »

I thought I (and the wife) heard her on TV at an interview saying (with her strong accent) "...get behind our X-Factor guys" but if you can show where your version of words is stated, that statement by yourself will stand.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/x_factor/2686896/Cheryl-Cole-says-get-behind-X-Factor-gays.html

The Sun's words, not mine. Just thought it was an interesting choice of words.

Biggins

White-Teeth wrote: »

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/x_factor/2686896/Cheryl-Cole-says-get-behind-X-Factor-gays.html
The Sun's words, not mine. Just thought it was an interesting choice of words.

I had a look at that and I'd just like to point something out.

The Sun created headline states "Cheryl: Get behind our X gays" - YET (strangely enough) nowhere IN the article does it actually say that or put those words in her mouth!
They were clever enough not to quote her as exactly saying that in the article! :rolleyes:
They paraphrase with a short headline! NOT THE SAME THING!

They quote exact sentences from Danni and some from Cheryl yet not once does Cole use the words you say she use!
In fact all we have to claim that Cheryl might have used that "gay" word is the quickfire summarised headline that The Sun came up with and the correct quote below.

Her quoted words:

"You are what you are. You shouldn't have to explain either way, whether you're straight or gay. It shouldn't be an issue. "It should be a case of you're talented. People like you. Full stop. You shouldn't have to explain."

and

"It's still one of those issues people still seem to have. I'm glad shows like X Factor show all the different types of people out there."

...and thats it!!!

As before - where are these exact words? I'm getting tired of hearing things that others claim yet they cannot back up. She never said "get behind our gays".

On the actual show she told Danni off for knocking Danyl with her sly dig and said instead of knocking them, they (the judges) should all be standing up for our GUYS!
This she said to a live audience. I and millions heard it ourselves. If I have to, I'll dig up a recording for you!

Please come back and produce CLEAR evidence for this supposed EXACT quote that only you seemed to have read somewhere and amid the millions that has watched and reported on this show, has gone over our heads and we all have amazingly missed!

Dannii, 37, caused fury when she spoke out after Danyl changed the gender of lyrics to Jennifer Hudson's And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going.
She later apologised, saying she had not meant to cause offence. But the incident prompted more than 4,000 complaints with Simon Cowell banning any mention of sexuality on the show.

So far I have yet to see - hear anything that this ban has been broken by Cole.

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Can you please stop this gay muck raking rubbish!
Your the only one doing it here repeatedly without anything substantial to prove that anyone other than Danyl is gay!

Biggins

That_Guy wrote: »

...The Sun/Star and all those other rags come along and say "oh... there's not much news happening. Let's look at the X-Factor and drag two people through the dirt by saying they're gay".

You must be holding a hammer - you've hit the nail right on the head!

That_Guy

Biggins wrote: »

You must be holding a hammer - you've hit the nail right on the head!

Bought fresh from Homebase.

White-Teeth

Biggins: Like I said, the Sun's phrasing, not mine.

By the way, i have it on good authority that the News of the World was going to run with the Danyl/Lloyd story last Sunday. however, Cowell threatened to withdraw access to all contestants if they did.

Just wait till the show is over, that's all I'll say.

I'll bring back this thread when it all comes out -- excuse the phrasing.

That_Guy

White-Teeth wrote: »

Biggins: Like I said, the Sun's phrasing, not mine.

By the way, i have it on good authority that the News of the World was going to run with the Danyl/Lloyd story last Sunday. however, Cowell threatened to withdraw access to all contestants if they did.

Just wait till the show is over, that's all I'll say.

I'll bring back this thread when it all comes out -- excuse the phrasing.

Source?

Aidric

Danyl would swallow Lloyd.