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Femininity & Ladylikeness

  • 23-11-2009 10:17am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭


    What are they to you? Are they the same?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    To me femininity is a woman that likes to take care of herself appearence wise ie nice clothes,hair etc.When a female looks good,and knows she looks good she exudes an air of confidence which is very attractive.And I dont mean that she is constantly dressed for the red carpet.She could be wearing a tracksuit and still be extremely feminine.

    Ladylikeness to me is how a female carries/conducts herself.She can be as well dressed and as impeccably decked out as anything but its the behaviours that accompany this that equal ladylikeness.Eg if she is going out and getting into fights,waking up in alleys or whatever,it doesnt matter how feminine she is,she simply isnt a lady.

    A thin line?

    Probably.

    Im sure some of the more eloquent contributers will put it better than that.
    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Which would you prefer? :cool: (If you had to choose one)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    I never really put too much though into it, but i reckon "nedtheshed" summed it up nicely. I'd go with what he's said.

    If i had to choose I'd go for "ladylikeness".
    Besides, if someone had "ladylikeness" in spades they'd have "femininity", however the reverse isn't the case (ie: you could have "femininity" is spades, but no class.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    Never really put much thought into it either.

    I'll go with what first popped into my head.

    Femininity: Truthfully, the first thing that popped into my head was soft, perfumed skin, clean long hair, trusting eyes.

    Ladylikeness: When I hear that I hear social conformity. I'd rather my OH be comfortable and feminine, than try to adhere to what society deems to be a lady.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    Meaningless social constructs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    Well you could say some men are feminine but
    would you ever say a man is ladylike?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    WindSock wrote: »
    Which would you prefer? :cool: (If you had to choose one)

    100% it would be ladylikeness.

    I couldnt bear the thought of dating a total brazzer.As I said,femininity can be done by anyone,ladylikeness is something you have or you dont.Thankfully the vast majority of females (that I know at least) have both traits in equal measures.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    WindSock wrote: »
    Which would you prefer? :cool: (If you had to choose one)


    To me lady likeness is nothing but manor's

    feminiety is pink

    so ladylikeness i guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Big country houses rock! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Womanly vs Princess is more like it.

    I mean the question is very stereotypical. If by feminine you mean Kate Moss -then thats not feminine -thats just skinny.

    If by ladylike you mean Anne Doyle reading the news. Well you must admit she is well attractive for her age and would probably be better company than Amy Winehouse despite the age difference.

    Now womanly - thats a whole different matter. Thats real that is and I reckon what most men want is a woman and not a girl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Em, how did you get Kate Moss from feminine... :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Zulu wrote: »
    Em, how did you get Kate Moss from feminine... :confused:
    :eek: Kate Moss is a woman trapped in a skinny teenage boys body.

    Definitions of feminine and ladylike are very subjective. A woman who belches or drinks pints - is that not very ladylike or feminine?:confused:

    So it would get a no-no on the ladylike scale.

    If someone is not feminine does that mean masculine or does it mean someone who doesnt buy Penneys underwear?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Penneys underware? :confused:

    Are you drunk?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,665 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    I would have considered femininity to be about a woman's own sense of personal ettiquette.
    Ladylikeness would be more about social ettiquette. Both would (and do) vary greatly though: from person to person (in the case of Femininity) and from social and cultural contexts in the case of Ladylikeness.

    I'd absolutely plump for a woman with a strong sense of her femininity. A beautiful personal confidence rooted in the essence of their sexuality would win over someone worrying about fitting into the given social norms of their society.

    Although a strong cup of tea from nice china, with a saucer, and a rich tea bicky on the side is very Ladylike and appealing in itself I do prefer a strong, independent of mind woman that can tell another person to "go fcuk themselves" without skipping a beat.



    Kate Moss ftw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Zulu wrote: »
    Penneys underware? :confused:

    Are you drunk?

    No - but define feminine for me ?

    Is it a style or mode dress, boudoir ettiquette or a fragrance or behavior.

    Is ladylike the same or is it wearing a wax jacket while walking the dog with certain behavior like cup and saucer, glass of wine and never a pint or is it rural Chic?

    I think its fair to ask the question as a woman has asked it and her definitions might be Cosmo and a gentleman may read GQ or Nuts while on holiday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    I asked the question to read your definitions. Why do you want mine? I want to read it from a male perspective, that's why I posted it here. :confused:

    I thought they were fairly straightforward questions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    WindSock wrote: »
    I asked the question to read your definitions. Why do you want mine? I want to read it from a male perspective, that's why I posted it here. :confused:

    It depends on the context you are using the word in. In one context feminine means a cultural reference point like the chinese and the little feet thing and in another others the word means seductive and what turns you on. So the context is important otherwise the question is ambiguous.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/

    So would this be attributes that define a heterosexual woman for me? For me than it would be soft and sensual and curves.

    fem·i·nine (febreve.gifmprime.gifschwa.gif-nibreve.gifn)adj.1. Of or relating to women or girls. See Synonyms at female.
    2. Characterized by or possessing qualities generally attributed to a woman.
    3. Effeminate; womanish.
    4. Grammar Designating or belonging to the gender of words or grammatical forms that refer chiefly to females or to things classified as female.

    n. Grammar 1. The feminine gender.
    2. A word or form belonging to the feminine gender.

    Ladylike to me would be someone who behaves appropriately and in accordence with conservative social norms in social or business situations. To me it is not nesscessarily indicative of a particular class but more denotes an individuals standards of behavior.

    So definition 2 below would be closest.
    la·dy·like (lamacr.gifprime.gifdemacr.gif-limacr.gifklprime.gif)adj.1. Characteristic of a lady; well-bred.
    2. Appropriate for or becoming to a lady. See Synonyms at female.
    3. Unduly sensitive to matters of propriety or decorum.
    4. Lacking virility or strength.

    Jeez - I sound so pedantic.


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