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Commercial Supercars

  • 21-11-2009 7:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭


    Has any one heard of a super car, ie Ferrari, being converted into a commercial vehicle?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭sleepysniper


    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Not a supercar but I know a guy who had a Supra commercial, the rear windows were blacked out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭homer90


    Erm
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    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭knuth


    That was quick.

    Is there any reason to WHY it couldn't be done?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭sleepysniper


    lordlame wrote: »
    That was quick.

    Is there any reason to WHY it couldn't be done?


    If you can afford a Ferrari you can afford to tax it aswell.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    I've seen a Porsche 928 turned into a pick up truck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭frag4


    Saw a 2005 Nissan 350Z commerical for sale recently.

    Kinda makes sense with the road tax and more so if you import it because of the lower VRT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Try Google, boards.ie is not a search engine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Had too...:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    CianRyan wrote: »
    Had too...:rolleyes:

    Top result,lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭knuth


    frag4 wrote: »
    Saw a 2005 Nissan 350Z commerical for sale recently.

    Kinda makes sense with the road tax and more so if you import it because of the lower VRT

    Spot on. This was brought up in a previous pub discussion.
    testicle wrote:
    Try Google, boards.ie is not a search engine

    Tried Google, didn't find an answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    testicle wrote: »
    Try Google, boards.ie is not a search engine.
    CianRyan wrote: »
    Had too...:rolleyes:

    The poster asked a question. No need to be a smartass lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    CianRyan wrote: »
    I've seen a Porsche 928 turned into a pick up truck?

    picard_facepalm.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Onkle wrote: »
    The poster asked a question. No need to be a smartass lads

    So what you're saying is that boards.ie motors forum users know more than Google?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Captain Slow IRL


    IMO, this would make an excellant commercial conversion:

    pqdsc01383re5.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    testicle wrote: »
    So what you're saying is that boards.ie motors forum users know more than Google?

    Don't argue with a moderator on thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    You can convert any car to a commerical, really.

    You'll have to:
    remove the rear seats and seat belts
    plug the holes with a metal putty
    disconnect the rear windows (can be reconnected after work is sorted)

    Now, I couldn't find a rule for this, but I know there is a requirement for the loading area size compared to the whole size of the car somewhere. Best to ask Revenue for the rules to register a car as commercial.

    As said before in this thread, a Toyota Supra can be converted to import as commercial, I'd say a few other cars no problems either. A 2 seater is most likely a no go.

    /M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    Onkle wrote: »
    Don't argue with a moderator on thread.

    Me-ow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,451 ✭✭✭CharlieCroker


    Z coupe would be a perfect yoke as a commercial. Pretty much same sixe as any other car-van. Wonder if anyone has done it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    There's an M5 Ute in Australia.

    medium_2921025599_bc90cfbecf_o_540x350.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Mickk


    Marlow wrote: »
    You can convert any car to a commerical, really.

    You'll have to:
    remove the rear seats and seat belts
    plug the holes with a metal putty
    disconnect the rear windows (can be reconnected after work is sorted)

    Now, I couldn't find a rule for this, but I know there is a requirement for the loading area size compared to the whole size of the car somewhere. Best to ask Revenue for the rules to register a car as commercial.

    As said before in this thread, a Toyota Supra can be converted to import as commercial, I'd say a few other cars no problems either. A 2 seater is most likely a no go.

    /M

    I believe 40% of the wheelbase has to be commercial space, probably to stop 2 seaters saying they are commercials...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Mickk wrote: »
    I believe 40% of the wheelbase has to be commercial space, probably to stop 2 seaters saying they are commercials...

    Sounds reasonable enough. In Denmark it's minimum 50% of the passenger cabin's length (if it's a car/mpv you're converting). Haven't tried to do a conversion here yet, but often toyed with it.

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Blue850


    Isn't there a Merc Vito in the midlands with Lamborghini Diablo running gear?

    Ferrari did a 250 GTO "breadvan" in the 60s:D
    breadvan2.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭Muckie


    Or like this.....

    48553060.jpg

    Subaru Impreza 22b pick up truck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭vw4life


    Blue850 wrote: »
    Isn't there a Merc Vito in the midlands with Lamborghini Diablo running gear?

    yeah,I've got pics of that somewhere,buts it looks more like a pickup with no load area if that makes any sense,something to do with a Merc main dealer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭vw4life




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Cmar-Ireland


    How about a 700hp V12?

    Not a supercar, but a supersuv



    No problem turning this into a commercial :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    How about a 700hp V12?

    Not a supercar, but a supersuv

    That's just amazing. Apart from the engine, the X5 is pretty much standard and it achieves a similar Ring time to the likes of a Ferrari 599, a Lambo Murcielago and a Bugatti Veyron? Incredible stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Cmar-Ireland


    unkel wrote: »
    That's just amazing. Apart from the engine, the X5 is pretty much standard and it achieves a similar Ring time to the likes of a Ferrari 599, a Lambo Murcielago and a Bugatti Veyron? Incredible stuff.

    And don't forget the noise. Sweet Jesus, the noise !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    IMO, this would make an excellant commercial conversion:

    pqdsc01383re5.jpg

    Now THAT makes Baby Jesus cry! It's so... horrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭darragh o meara


    Not a supercar but I have seen a few STI Impreza wagons converted to commercial and one is running about 350bhp!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    Confab wrote: »
    Now THAT makes Baby Jesus cry! It's so... horrible.

    you sir, are off my xmas card list :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Ferris


    Would it not just be easier to get a Maloo :cool:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭gofaster_s13


    IMO, this would make an excellant commercial conversion:

    pqdsc01383re5.jpg

    I've DOE'ed 2 of these and one was lifted by the customs who said that the load carrying space was too small(the boot floor is very high to allow space for the differential) the owner had to pay the back tax plus pound fees but escaped VRT fines as the car had been registered before in the country and VRT paid. Customs don't like people trying to take the piss with commercial conversions and will try everything to make sure the vehicle meets requirements for commercialising


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭mondeo


    I've DOE'ed 2 of these and one was lifted by the customs who said that the load carrying space was too small(the boot floor is very high to allow space for the differential) the owner had to pay the back tax plus pound fees but escaped VRT fines as the car had been registered before in the country and VRT paid. Customs don't like people trying to take the piss with commercial conversions and will try everything to make sure the vehicle meets requirements for commercialising

    I think your probably right,,, too many questions would put me off. If it could be done I would convert an Old S class Merc and enjoy my big engine with f all road tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Not quite a commercial, but ready for conversion.

    image.axd?picture=ferrari-456-venice-station-wagon-1.jpg

    ferrari_456_venice-9.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 317 ✭✭bostoncommon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    alastair wrote: »
    Not quite a commercial, but ready for conversion.

    image.axd?picture=ferrari-456-venice-station-wagon-1.jpg

    ferrari_456_venice-9.jpg


    What the hell?
    I've never seen one of these before?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭G Luxel


    Aren't those Ferrari estates owned by the Sultan of Brunei. That country was ordering loads of supercars about 20 years ago, most of them with specialised coachwork. They also received some Bentley SUVs.
    rr%20van.jpg
    Not a supercar, but a Vineyard ran this commercial....

    and this must be twice the price of a Zeppelin!
    maybachsprinter.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Some of these might be fakes, and some aren't supercars either but there's a lot of shooting brakes around:

    Porsche 928
    img_0780.jpg

    Aston Martin V8 Vantage
    modelpicture.php?id=1635

    Ford Mustang (fake I think)
    ford_mustang_shooting_brake.jpg

    Ferrari Daytona
    Panther_Ferrari_365_GTB_Shooting_Brake_1974_09.jpg

    Audi TT Shooting Brake (concept)
    audi-shooting-brake-concept.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    CianRyan wrote: »
    What the hell?
    I've never seen one of these before?:confused:

    It's a Ferrari 456 GT Venice. There were a handful of them specially made for the Sultan of Brunei in the mid-90's. Chances are if you can afford one, you can afford the tax too :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭knuth


    I've DOE'ed 2 of these and one was lifted by the customs who said that the load carrying space was too small(the boot floor is very high to allow space for the differential) the owner had to pay the back tax plus pound fees but escaped VRT fines as the car had been registered before in the country and VRT paid. Customs don't like people trying to take the piss with commercial conversions and will try everything to make sure the vehicle meets requirements for commercialising

    I think this sums up the idea then.
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭bijapos


    Lynx_Eventer_1983_30.jpg&h=94&w=125&usg=__YggnQDpC2m2VOKmeSm8O1JiLD7Y=

    Lynx Eventer. Nice car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭.Longshanks.


    There was a Lotus Elise (i know its not a supercar) discussed here a few weeks ago that it legally taxed as a commercial due to having only 2 seats, a rear bench and blacked out windows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭B11gt00e


    Many like this are driven like supercars.

    Does it qualify?

    ford-electric-van-transit-connect-1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    B11gt00e wrote: »
    Many like this are driven like supercars.

    Does it qualify?

    Next thing you'd come up with is a Ford Transit ST.

    No, they do not qualify as supercar, as supercars not only are about engine. It's about engine, handling and a lot different other things ..... and then the Ford Transit and Transit Connect aren't precisely sexy.

    I'd love to have a Clear CT/4, and yes it's a damn animal with 522 bhp Porsche Ruf 993 engine in a Volkswagen Caravelle T4, but it's not a supercar. It's a supervan, at best :) ... I'd say it's just a damn fast van, with nice stylings.

    The Ford Transit Connect is plain ugly though.

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Thornography


    That mustang is class! id drive it as commercial anyways...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭Traumadoc


    Ive seen a few holden ss utes in ireland - 6.0L top speed in the region of 180 mph. commercial tax


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