UFC 106 Ortiz -V- Griffin 2 Predictions

JoeyJJ

I hope there are no wierd decisions in this weeks event.

Forrest really needs a win however Tito looks like he is in great shape (obv only commenting from preview of fight video) and I think he should take it assuming his back is 100%.

Rumble Johnson looked great in his quick KO last time out, (did he make weight for that fight can't remember) I'd say this could be fight of the night.

Looking forward to this card Baroni back in the UFC, Marcus back and like watching Kendall Grove so hopefully should be a good night of quality MMA.

Jason Mc

Tough call but I would go for forrest.

I just think he will be hungrier for it.

syncsyncboot

I have noticed that ring rust has been a major factor in many UFC Main Events of note.

Couture is not the same.

Shogun was appaling in Dublin.

Griffin sucked against Silva.

On this basis I think Tito will struggle after 3 1/2 years of non-competition.

My pick of the weekend is Hazelett to beat Parisyan at 10/11 from Paddy Power - safe easy money. Parisyan is a troubled man and I don't think has the fight in him. A shame because he used to be very dynamic and exciting.

Dancor

Tito to win.

sonic.trip

predictions for sat nights fights?

Main Card
Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Anthony Johnson
Welterweight bout: Amir Sadollah vs. Phil Baroni
Light Heavyweight bout: Luiz Cane vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Welterweight bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Dustin Hazelett

Preliminary Card (Spike TV)
Welterweight bout: Ben Saunders vs. Marcus Davis
Middleweight bout: Kendall Grove vs. Jake Rosholt

Preliminary Card (Non-televised)
Welterweight bout: Paulo Thiago vs. Jacob Volkmann
Welterweight bout: Brock Larson vs. Brian Foster
Lightweight bout: Caol Uno vs. Fabricio Camoes
Lightweight bout: George Sotiropoulos vs. Jason Dent

bret69

Main Card
Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Anthony Johnson
Welterweight bout: Amir Sadollah vs. Phil Baroni
Light Heavyweight bout: Luiz Cane vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Welterweight bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Dustin Hazelett

ollieo

JoeyJJ wrote: »

I hope there are no wierd decisions in this weeks event.

Forrest really needs a win however Tito looks like he is in great shape (obv only commenting from preview of fight video) and I think he should take it assuming his back is 100%.

Rumble Johnson looked great in his quick KO last time out, (did he make weight for that fight can't remember) I'd say this could be fight of the night.

Looking forward to this card Baroni back in the UFC, Marcus back and like watching Kendall Grove so hopefully should be a good night of quality MMA.

No Johnson didn't make weight, he weighed in at 176 lbs. I don't think he'll make the weight for this fight either, he's too big for welterweight.

I think Tito will win by the way.

merlinsmerryman

Main Card
Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Anthony Johnson (Only heavyweight, Welterweight I have ever seen )
Welterweight bout: Amir Sadollah vs. Phil Baroni
Light Heavyweight bout: Luiz Cane vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Welterweight bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Dustin Hazelett

ollieo

ollieo wrote: »

No Johnson didn't make weight, he weighed in at 176 lbs. I don't think he'll make the weight for this fight either, he's too big for welterweight.

I think Tito will win by the way.

What happens when a fighter doesnt make weight?, the fight doesnt count on their record or something along those lines?

Odats

gilberto_eire wrote: »

What happens when a fighter doesnt make weight?, the fight doesnt count on their record or something along those lines?

They surrender 20% of their fight purse to the opponent and 9/10 if you don't win the match you get cut.
Examples are Mike Ciesnolevicz against Tomas Drwal
Josh Neer vs Gleison Tibau (Both over)
Hermes Franca vs Tyson Griffin
This is the second time Rumble hasn't made weight. First was against Clementi then Yoshida. In fairness it takes a hell of alot of effort to cut from 220 down to 170. That was his cut last time. Only thing in his favour this time is at fight time he was about 190 against Yoshida so if he went straight back into he might get it off.
IMO Rumble is a natural 185r now.

stevemc01

syncsyncboot wrote: »

On this basis I think Tito will struggle after 3 1/2 years of non-competition.

Tito last fought in May 08, his first fight with Forrest was 3.5 years ago and he has had another 5 fights since then.

gilberto_eire wrote: »

What happens when a fighter doesnt make weight?, the fight doesnt count on their record or something along those lines?

If your opponent agrees to fight you they get a % of your purse for the fight and the state athletic commission also get a % of your purse. If it was supposed to be a title fight it becomes a non title fight, like Anderson Silva v Travis Lutter.

callaway92

Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin

Josh Koscheck vs. Anthony Johnson

Amir Sadollah vs. Phil Baroni

Luiz Cane vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira

Ben Saunders vs. Marcus Davis

Kendall Grove vs. Jake Rosholt

Paulo Thiago vs. Jacob Volkmann

Brock Larson vs. Brian Foster

Caol Uno vs. Fabricio Camoes

George Sotiropoulos vs. Jason Dent

JoeyJJ

If he fails this time I can't see Dana letting him stay at 170. I think he would still be a force at 185 put wants to stay and try to boss the 170 boys.

hunter164

Both have points to prove. Should make for a cracker.

t-ha

sonic.trip wrote: »

predictions for sat nights fights?

Wow - I'm gonna go almost the complete opposite way!

Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin

Josh Koscheck vs. Anthony Johnson

Amir Sadollah vs. Phil Baroni

Luiz Cane vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira

Karo Parisyan vs. Dustin Hazelett

Ben Saunders vs. Marcus Davis

Kendall Grove vs. Jake Rosholt

Paulo Thiago vs. Jacob Volkmann

Brock Larson vs. Brian Foster

Caol Uno vs. Fabricio Camoes

George Sotiropoulos vs. Jason Dent

Tones69

Really hard to pick winners here, but i think im gonna go with Forrest, Koscheck, Sadollah, Cane and Hazelett

sonic.trip

t-ha wrote: »

Wow - I'm gonna go almost the complete opposite way!

a point for each and we will decide a winner

Mellor

Odats wrote: »

They surrender 20% of their fight purse to the opponent and 9/10 if you don't win the match you get cut.
Examples are Mike Ciesnolevicz against Tomas Drwal
Josh Neer vs Gleison Tibau (Both over)
Hermes Franca vs Tyson Griffin
This is the second time Rumble hasn't made weight. First was against Clementi then Yoshida. In fairness it takes a hell of alot of effort to cut from 220 down to 170. That was his cut last time. Only thing in his favour this time is at fight time he was about 190 against Yoshida so if he went straight back into he might get it off.
IMO Rumble is a natural 185r now.

Source?
I seriously doubt he cut 50 lbs

Mellor

Main Card
[/B]Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Anthony Johnson
Welterweight bout: Amir Sadollah vs. Phil Baroni
Light Heavyweight bout: Luiz Cane vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Welterweight bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Dustin Hazelett


I was 100% for 104 and 105, lets keep it up

Professey Chin

syncsyncboot wrote: »

I have noticed that ring rust has been a major factor in many UFC Main Events of note.

Couture is not the same.

Shogun was appaling in Dublin.

Griffin sucked against Silva.

Id say that was less ring rust and more Silva being much much better and Couture is just getting too old.Shogun was just ring rust and probably taking Coleman very lightly

Anyway my picks
Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin
Josh Koscheck vs. Anthony Johnson
Amir Sadollah vs. Phil Baroni
Luiz Cane vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Karo Parisyan vs. Dustin Hazelett
Ben Saunders vs. Marcus Davis
Kendall Grove vs. Jake Rosholt

Odats

Mellor wrote: »

Source?
I seriously doubt he cut 50 lbs

Watch UFC 104 and entrance of Johnson and Rogan commentating saying he got as high as 220 before he cut for the fight against Yoshida plus Johnson admitted it after the fight in the post fight press conference on UFC.com. Said he'd never get that big before cut again as he normally cuts from 200/205 down.
By cut I mean not in the 24hrs before weigh ins but over the course of his camp to get down to fight weight which he didn't make last time. It is impossible to cut 50lbs in 24hrs.

Jason Mc

Mellor wrote: »

Main Card
[/B]Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Anthony Johnson
Welterweight bout: Amir Sadollah vs. Phil Baroni
Light Heavyweight bout: Luiz Cane vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Welterweight bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Dustin Hazelett




I was 100% for 104 and 105, lets keep it up

admit it you just pick the right hand side

sweet card though

Tim_Murphy

Tito by old skool beatdown. It will be epic.

Don't care about the rest of the card.

cowzerp

Tim_Murphy wrote: »

Tito by old skool beatdown. It will be epic. .

Thats what im expecting too-Tito back to his best..

Ali H

Tim_Murphy wrote: »

Tito by old skool beatdown. It will be epic.

Don't care about the rest of the card.

Ah no I want Tito to win but if Tim is going for Tito then Forest will win for sure. You always get it wrong Tim hence all the money you have gave me Like Forest but really hoping Tito comes back in the game with a bang

Tim_Murphy

Ali H wrote: »

Ah no I want Tito to win but if Tim is going for Tito then Forest will win for sure. You always get it wrong Tim hence all the money you have gave me Like Forest but really hoping Tito comes back in the game with a bang

Ha ha, have 20 big ones down on Tito! I've given you enough money already so made a bet with somebody else this time.

DrPhilG

George Sotiropolous vs Jason Dent
Brock Larson vs Brian Foster
Caol Uno vs Fabricio Camoes
Paulo Thiago vs Jacob Volkmann
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Ben Saunders vs Marcus Davis
Kendall Grove vs Jake Rosholt
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Karo Parisyan vs Dustin Hazelett
Luiz Cane vs Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Amir Sadollah vs Phil Baroni
Josh Koscheck vs Anthony Johnson
Tito Ortiz vs Forrest Griffin

More importantly, why the hell are we not getting the 2 prelim fights that are free on Spike TV? Last time they showed on ESPN before the main show. This sucks, I wanna see the Davis fight.

syncsyncboot

syncsyncboot wrote: »

My pick of the weekend is Hazelett to beat Parisyan at 10/11 from Paddy Power - safe easy money. Parisyan is a troubled man and I don't think has the fight in him. A shame because he used to be very dynamic and exciting.

Really do not want to say I told you so.... terrible news for Karo and fans hoping to see a decent grappling contest.

Simply Red

Weigh-ins are on live here at the min for anyone interested http://uk.ufc.com/live/ (wont work with google chrome)

lil-evil

Weigh in results


* Forrest Griffin (205) vs. Tito Ortiz (204)
* Anthony Johnson (170):eek: vs. Josh Koscheck (171)
* Paulo Thiago (169) vs. Jacob Volkmann (170)
* Luiz Cane (205) vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (205)
* Phil Baroni (170) vs. Amir Sadollah (170)

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)
* Marcus Davis (170) vs. Ben Saunders (170)
* Kendall Grove (186) vs. Jake Rosholt (185.5)

PRELIMINARY CARD (un-aired)
* Brian Foster (171) vs. Brock Larson (171)
* Fabricio Camoes (155.5) vs. Caol Uno (155.5)
* Jason Dent (155) vs. George Sotiropoulos (155)

kevdog1

forest going for the win.. really needs to prove what hes worth after the embarresment of silva... very dissapointed about karo pulling out. was looking forward to see how dustin would fair up. bit of a shame.