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what weights were paq and cotto in the ring?

  • 17-11-2009 5:37pm
    #1
    ceoexec2
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    As above. Also does anyone know the tale of the tape for the fight


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  • #2
    ceoexec2
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    sorry to have to bump this thread. ive been checking on the web and cant find any info.

    hbo usually weigh the fighters on fight night so thought someone would know.

    does anyone think that pacquiao can jump again to a higher weight and go for another belt?


  • #3
    walshb
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    ceoexec2 wrote: »
    sorry to have to bump this thread. ive been checking on the web and cant find any info.

    hbo usually weigh the fighters on fight night so thought someone would know.

    does anyone think that pacquiao can jump again to a higher weight and go for another belt?

    I couldn't locate weights, but did read that Manny was maybe 149 lbs.
    Roach doesn't like Manny to gain much weight after the weigh in.

    Can Pac jump and win another belt, well, if he and his team apply restrictions, then possibly, but in my world, I wouldn't recognise the win, as I don't now recognise Manny
    as a welter champ. Manny beat Cotto the other night, nothing more nothing less.

    He has the beatings of Yuri Foreman and Sergio Martinez, but maybe 154 lbs
    will be a step too far. It looks easy from the outside and p4p he is
    superior, but every man has his limits


  • #4
    ceoexec2
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    why wouldn't you recognise the win. when cotto was winning at 140 he was 156 on fight night in most fights, thats a fair advantage. he probably was that weight again for pac or a bit lighter which is still a considerable advantage. if its good for one its good for the other

    they are both doing the same thing - manipulating weight class.


  • #5
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,372 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ceoexec2 wrote: »
    why wouldn't you recognise the win. when cotto was winning at 140 he was 156 on fight night in most fights, thats a fair advantage. he probably was that weight again for pac or a bit lighter which is still a considerable advantage. if its good for one its good for the other

    they are both doing the same thing - manipulating weight class.

    Correction ,I do recognise the win; I don't recognise the title win.

    When any man stipulates to another man that he has to come in
    at a certain weight for a title fight, it makes a mockery of the title
    fight. Welterweight is up to 147 lbs, not 145 lbs.

    BTW, what Cotto was weighing as a 140 lb champ on fight night
    is completely irrelevant. Cotto wasn't stipulating what
    his opponents could and could not weigh in at. The rules
    applied equally.


  • #6
    ceoexec2
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    "When any man stipulates to another man that he has to come in
    at a certain weight for a title fight, it makes a mockery of the title
    fight. Welterweight is up to 147 lbs, not 145 lbs."

    point taken but it also makes a mockery of the title when you end up with a welterweight title being fought for by middleweights.

    it will only be cleared up when a fighter has to weigh the same on fight night as the actual weigh in. th e weigh ins will have to be brought forward closer to the fight.


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  • #7
    Daroxtar
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    ceoexec2 wrote: »
    "When any man stipulates to another man that he has to come in
    at a certain weight for a title fight, it makes a mockery of the title
    fight. Welterweight is up to 147 lbs, not 145 lbs."

    point taken but it also makes a mockery of the title when you end up with a welterweight title being fought for by middleweights.

    it will only be cleared up when a fighter has to weigh the same on fight night as the actual weigh in. th e weigh ins will have to be brought forward closer to the fight.

    Thats a step backward. Thats how things were until the mid 80's. Thats why Barry McGuigan suffered so much in the heat against Steve Cruz, he hadn't time to rehydrate properly after weighing in the morning of the fight.


  • #8
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,372 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ceoexec2 wrote: »
    "When any man stipulates to another man that he has to come in
    at a certain weight for a title fight, it makes a mockery of the title
    fight. Welterweight is up to 147 lbs, not 145 lbs."

    point taken but it also makes a mockery of the title when you end up with a welterweight title being fought for by middleweights.

    it will only be cleared up when a fighter has to weigh the same on fight night as the actual weigh in. th e weigh ins will have to be brought forward closer to the fight.

    Hey, this isn't ideal either, but at least it applies to both men. The rules today say that the fighters weigh in a day before. These are the rules.

    What happened with Manny and Cotto, and Leonard and Lalonde before, was that one fighter was coerced into putting his title on the line with a weight restriction.

    This is a mockery of the sport. If the limit is 147, then that's the limit and if a fighter wants to take the title, then he should not be allowed to create weight "rules" to do so. Null and void!


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