Fedora 12 Released

ravydavygravy

Release Notes: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f12/en-US/html-single/

Its almost as amazing as Mint....

Eliot Rosewater

Im really itching to try out Fedora (11), which Ive installed on my PC alongside Ubuntu, but Im getting the weirdest Internet problem. Basically Im connected to the net but the only sites I can visit are Fedora sites. When I open Firefox for example the Fedora website comes up, and given that is advertising version 12 I know its not stored on my hard drive since the install. I click Fedora links fine. Yet if I go to any other website, such as Google, I get a cannot connect error. Even though I can even download updates via the update manager.

Its annoying as Im really looking to try other distros, especially after the highly disappointing and backwards Ubuntu 9.10 release, and I think Fedora is the next place to go. But one cant really learn about new distros without the Internet to help you!

And btw, seems as Im a judgmental guy, Fedora looks way better by default than Ubuntu

Rebel021

going to try t out later

Sposs

Have been playing around with it , thinking of releasing it as a XEN virtual template on my VPS offerings, some nice enhancements and fixes.

BOZG

Glad I picked up my new 1TB hard drive yesterday Plenty of space for testing new distros.

FSL

I am just experimenting with Linux systems.

I have a multi Boot setup Ubuntu,Fedora and 3x Windows. I ran an upgrade on Fedora 11. The menu.lst file the computer boots from is in the Ubuntu partition. When I re-booted after the upgrade the only Fedora option was the original Fedora 11. However in the grub folder on the Fedora partition there is a menu.lst which points to a Fedora 12 upgrade.

If I copy this option into the menu.lst the system boots from and choose it on boot will it complete the upgrade or screw the system.

BOZG

If you just upgraded from 11 to 12, then the original entry should point to the Fedora 12 installation, even if it still lists Fedora 11. You can just edit that in menu.lst.

If it isn't booting 12 at all and the entry in Fedora's menu.lst looks similar to the entry below, just add it to menu.lst.

title Debian Sid
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-4-486 root=/dev/hdc3 ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-4-486
savedefault

ravydavygravy

So, re-installed my laptop this afternoon (Samsung NC10, was running FC10) - all good, re-install from a USB version of the live CD took a whole 5 mins. Visually, not a whole lot different - the plymouth graphical boot works now, but its crap anyway. Proper compiz transparency now, though this might have already been in FC11. I see yum now uses presto and deltarpms, to reduce download quantities for updates. Filesystems are all ext4 now by default, but you'll need to re-install to get this. Last thing I noticed - if you are in bash and type a command that isn't installed yet (nmap for example), it states "command not found" as usual, but also offers to install it for you...

Everything worked out of the box, including Cisco VPN client (via NetworkManager), bluetooth, wireless, our on-call 02 3G dongle, webcam, Fn keys for volume/brightness/etc.... so I'm happy enough - I wait to see if my battery life will improve (I get ~4 hours anyway, so not much to worry about)

Dave

Johnboy1951

Tried it in VBox. A disaster.
Extremely slow to boot.
No way to get a useable sized screen that was apparent to me.
The boot screen was black with a progress bar along the bottom.
Seemed to hang for long periods ... but I left it to see would it eventually boot which it did.

Burned it to a CD and the boot up was nearly as slow -- but I did get a full sized screen! .... and the boot screens had a graphic in place of the black screen in VBox!

Not for me .... could not even find an obvious way to install my preferred graphics drivers.

I will stick to my preferred distro for now.

Regards.

Tillotson

Check out the mailing list:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534047
Fedora 12 allows non-root users to install signed software.

ravydavygravy

Tillotson wrote: »

Check out the mailing list:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534047
Fedora 12 allows non-root users to install signed software.

Saw that - this will prevent this behaviour:

pklalockdown --lockdown org.freedesktop.packagekit.package-install

This will require packagekit to always require authorization to install stuff.

Offy

Eliot Rosewater wrote: »

Im really itching to try out Fedora (11), which Ive installed on my PC alongside Ubuntu, but Im getting the weirdest Internet problem. Basically Im connected to the net but the only sites I can visit are Fedora sites. When I open Firefox for example the Fedora website comes up, and given that is advertising version 12 I know its not stored on my hard drive since the install. I click Fedora links fine. Yet if I go to any other website, such as Google, I get a cannot connect error. Even though I can even download updates via the update manager.

Its annoying as Im really looking to try other distros, especially after the highly disappointing and backwards Ubuntu 9.10 release, and I think Fedora is the next place to go. But one cant really learn about new distros without the Internet to help you!

And btw, seems as Im a judgmental guy, Fedora looks way better by default than Ubuntu

Thats an easy one to sort, go into your network settings and edit your network card, click on IPv4 settings and change the method to Automatic (DHCP) address only then put your dns addresses in with a comma between the primary and secondary. You have no DNS set so you cant get WWW pages.

Tillotson

ravydavygravy wrote: »

Saw that - this will prevent this behaviour:

pklalockdown --lockdown org.freedesktop.packagekit.package-install

This will require packagekit to always require authorization to install stuff.

To me allowing any user to install software to / seems insane. It's a crappy
default which only benefits some unsophisticated users at the expense of
security.

Sometimes Fedora feels a bit like a beta testing ground. That said I've got
huge respect for Fedora, they're always innovating and contributing to the
community. I'm sure it's a great release.

I hope more distros adopt the automatic bug reporting tool.