the welch Fusliers

Fuinseog

does anyone happen to know if the Welch Fusiliers was stationed in Ireland. I came across a grave in galway with the regimental insignia.

johnny_doyle

did you get a name/date on the grave?

2nd Battalion were in Ireland :
1883 Templemore
1885 Fermoy
1887 Galway
1889 Curragh

1st Battalion were there later :
1907 Cork
1910 Dublin

prior to that they were at the Boyne as 23rd Regt of Foot.

The first VC winner, Sgt Luke O'Connor from Roscommon, was in this regiment.

Fuinseog

johnny_doyle wrote: »

did you get a name/date on the grave?

2nd Battalion were in Ireland :
1883 Templemore
1885 Fermoy
1887 Galway
1889 Curragh

1st Battalion were there later :
1907 Cork
1910 Dublin

prior to that they were at the Boyne as 23rd Regt of Foot.

The first VC winner, Sgt Luke O'Connor from Roscommon, was in this regiment.

thanks for that. if I remember correctly he fell or died in 1917. were they in Galway at this time?

18189 H Fishwick

the name is unusual for a Galwegian. There are also two Connacht Ranger Graves in the cemetry.

arnhem44

I just had a look in the book Forgotten Heros,Galway Soldiers of the Great War 1914-1918 and he's not listed there,maybe a case that he was been treated in Ireland for his injuries and died here,anyone else with any info?.I also had a look on the CWGC website at his record and it shows quite a few buried in that cemetery.


Cemetery:GALWAY (BOHERMORE) NEW CEMETERYCountry:Ireland, Republic ofLocality:County GalwayHistorical Information:The cemetery is on the Tuam road. There are 17 Commonwealth burials of the 1914-1918 war and 3 of the 1939-1945 war here.No. of Identified Casualties:20

R.Dub.Fusilier

Fuinseog wrote: »

thanks for that. if I remember correctly he fell or died in 1917. were they in Galway at this time?

18189 H Fishwick

the name is unusual for a Galwegian. There are also two Connacht Ranger Graves in the cemetry.

had a look on ancestry.uk and found no medal card to this number but i suppose you already found him on CWGC . here is the link for it. http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=662812 I found a Henry Fishwick 587 4th Welsh Regiment who was discharged on 23-8-1916.

johnny_doyle

according to Soldiers Dieid in the Great War, 18189, 21st Battn, Welsh Regt, Henry Fishwick was from Whittle-Le-Woods, Lancashire. In the 1901 census he is shown aged 2 at Whittle-Le-Woods with parents John (aged 27) and Annie (aged 24), both born in Whittle-Le-Woods. 2 other Fishwicks from the town/village appear to have died during WW1.

21st Battn was a training battalion so possibly they were based in Ireland for training but I can't find anything to confirm this.

arnhem44

here's a link for the Welch Fusiliers troop movements during the war from the Long Long Trail website http://www.1914-1918.net/rwf.htm ,this shows that there was two battalions in Ireland from November 1917 which still does not account for this soldier being in Ireland at the time of his death,it also shows the 21st battalion combining with the 22nd and forming the 64th Training Reserve Battalion, both in 14th Reserve Brigade.

oncevotedff

Fuinseog wrote: »

does anyone happen to know if the Welch Fusiliers was stationed in Ireland. I came across a grave in galway with the regimental insignia.

They had a battalion in Limerick during WW1. Robert Graves was stationed there for a time. King's Island Military Cemetery in Limerick has 16 RWF burials of 39 Great War interments.

Fuinseog

thanks for that

johnny_doyle

oncevotedff wrote: »

They had a battalion in Limerick during WW1. Robert Graves was stationed there for a time. King's Island Military Cemetery in Limerick has 16 RWF burials of 39 Great War interments.

had a look on the Commonwealth War Graves site. The RWF soldiers buried there are mainly from the 3rd Battn with dates ranging from 1/7/1918 thru to 17/8/1919.

Apparently stationed at Sarsfield Barracks, Limerick, most died from Spanish Flu. War Poet Siegfried Sassoon was a member of this unit and apparently spent a short time here.

http://www.limerickcity.ie/media/Media,4106,en.pdf

22 members of the 3rd Battn RWF were travelling back to Wales on board the RMS Leinster when it was sunk by a U-Boat on the 10th October 1918. 16 died in the incident. In total 501 of the 771 people on board died.

Still can't find any more info re Fishwick's battalion in Ireland.

arnhem44

Were all the soldiers that were recovered from the Leinster buried in Grangegorman or were they buried in different places?

oncevotedff

arnhem44 wrote: »

Were all the soldiers that were recovered from the Leinster buried in Grangegorman or were they buried in different places?

Many were returned to their homeplace for burial.

Pte Michael Biggane, Canadian Army Service Corps is buried in Ballylaneen, Co. Waterford and Nurse Venice Hackett is buried in Ballycumber, Co. Offaly.

johnny_doyle

the CWGC site is a bit limited when it comes to searching and sorting data in a cemetery. The write up for Grangegorman mentions Leinster graves but there's no quick way of searching for them

http://www.cwgc.org/search/cemetery_details.aspx?cemetery=91207&mode=1


some info about the sinking/commemoration of the RMS Leinster is at http://rmsleinster.com/home.htm

The Leinster's sister ship RMS Connaught had been requisitioned by the Admiralty in 1915 and used to ferry troops between Southampton and France. She was sunk by a U Boat on the 3rd March 1917. RMS Ulster and RMS Munster survived the war but the City of Dublin Steam Packet Company struggled to recover and lost the mail contract in the early 1920's. The company went into liquidation in 1924; RMS Ulster and RMS Munster were laid up and scrapped the same year.

arnhem44

Not sure if anyone has picked up on this story about Glasnevin and the erection of headstones to servicemen who were buried in paupers graves

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/ireland/091113/irish-veterans-poppies?page=0,0


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