DCU Road relays

mick157

I am not trolling and I want this to be a respectable and accurate discussion but there is evidence to suggest that DCU Athletics have broken DCU scholarship policy in an athletics competition at the weekend. IF so the team should be stripped of its gold team medal as that is what is required by IUAA policy regarding such matters. The issue in question regards a certain student on the A team whom out of fairness I will not name competing when the criteria for competing for the athletics team was not met due to exam performance. Anyone else have a view on the issue and please I repeat let this be a non biased debate. Regards wishing all students the best in their forthcoming exams.

I am sorry if I took it up wrongly but I was under the impression that it was a non DCU student that posted the comment. However if it was a dcu student, I still think that it wasn't the best place to be posting such a comment and he/she should have brought it up with the official body before hand instead of bringing it up here after it has all been done

jdivision

Report your suspicions to the college authorities and race organisers. why post it here?

ricflair

The idea behind an interactive forum is for discussion. One could argue why post anything at all. As an athlete in DCU the original poster is right and technically it breaks DCU Athletics rule which brings DCU into direpute with the governing bodies of university athletics as colleges unlike other clubs and societies give a registered number of athletes to IUAA at the beginning of the year. Only those registered with IUAA are allowed to compete and yes a member of the DCU A winning team was not registered due to not reaching DCU scholarship criteria but yet the athletics coach disreguarded the idea and raced him anyway against DCU policy and hense IUAA policy. Unfortunatley even though I have recently trained with the lad in question we techically by the rule book should forfeit our win although only an appeal from another college will suffice and I dont know if they know or knew of the situation. Also regarding other posts about informing IUAA authorities if anyone here was on a team would you grass up your club even if they paid your way through college.

kozo

This thread got bumped from A/R/T and I heard that it had started up again here. I'm not a DCU student but I'm interested in college athletics and I think it's a real pity that so many people seem ready to attack the DCU athletics team without actually checkin IUAA rules. In black and white on the IUAA site it says.

Those entitled to compete in Association Championships shall be:-

( i ) Entered by the Member to which they are attached.

[FONT=&quot]and ( ii ) Be a registered student as defined at Section 6.2.1. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]or ( iii ) Be a student who may be repeating an examination as allowed under the regulations of their respective university/college/institute.
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So unless the student wasn't registered at all then no rules were broken. If he's repeating a subject or the whole year it doesn't matter from an IUAA point of view they can run.

jimmylive

kozo wrote: »

This thread got bumped from A/R/T and I heard that it had started up again here. I'm not a DCU student but I'm interested in college athletics and I think it's a real pity that so many people seem ready to attack the DCU athletics team without actually checkin IUAA rules. In black and white on the IUAA site it says.

Those entitled to compete in Association Championships shall be:-

( i ) Entered by the Member to which they are attached.

[font=&quot]and ( ii ) Be a registered student as defined at Section 6.2.1. [/font]

[font=&quot]or ( iii ) Be a student who may be repeating an examination as allowed under the regulations of their respective university/college/institute. [/font]





So unless the student wasn't registered at all then no rules were broken. If he's repeating a subject or the whole year it doesn't matter from an IUAA point of view they can run.

You obviously didnt read my initial post.
The guy in question failed a repeat exam meaning that he doesnt qualify as a full time student. He SHOULD only be doing this module for this academic year based on the rules that the athletics academy have laid out. But again. I all depends on who you know and who you get on with in DCU. Im sure that if your liked and needed well enough you could fail 2 or 3 exams and still get through with a few bull sxxx extenuating circumstances and the "RIGHT" people backing you up!
Again this is not a bite at this athlete, this is for the co ordinator of athletics eyes'.
Nothing will come up of this anyway, unless a few people really want to do something about it. There has to be a few more that agree with what im saying and are willing to do something about it?
One possibility could be bringing this up with the President of DCU. He is an avid campaigner of fairness and equality!!!

you are still a full time student if you are repeating just one module, if however he wasnt in the college at all, that might be a different thing

manlad

dunno if i'm on the same topic but I missed my summer exam due to illness and failed the repeat exam in august. I am now repeating the one module for the year.

Guy in my class fails the exams miserbaly twice but gets straight into second year because he's on a running scolarship.

How is this a fair system????

sunnyjim

jimmylive wrote: »

If people are just being passed based on that they do athletics, what does that make their degree worth? Toilet roll?

It doesn't make their degree worth less, it makes your degree worth less.

Jimmylive is just a vindictive, jealous jogger with no talent and who does not have a clue about the circumstances and could not even make a 'z team'. His last name starts with the letter K and not fit enough to sit on a throne. This situation is an example of why the system in Ireland sucks and, why any athlete with talent SHOULD go to America where they'll be cared for. Scholarships in Ireland mean sweet "F All". K just has it in for DCU athletics because he IS A FAILURE.

What do they want? Their arses wiped too? Surely accomodation, money and 'alternate' academic arrangements should suffice.

jimmylive

The college view email i just got, be funny if something got in about it! I bolded it up.


Hi everyone,
This week we have a number of stories for The College View sports section.
- DCU play St Pats in Drumcondra this Wednesday at 2pm at one of the final soccer matches before the Christmas break. The 11, 11a, 13 or 13a will get you straight to Drumcondra and it promises to be a good one. (400 words)
- Three DCU players were among the Sporting Fingal team that recently won the FAI Cup. I need someone to interview one of them (probably Eamonn Zayed or Fiachra McArdle) (500 words)
- DCU recently won in the road relay championships. There has been some controversy however (you may have seen the thread on boards) over whether the DCU athletes were eligible for selection. A bit of digging about here, could make for a nice investigative piece. (550 words)
- We're doing a look back at sport over the last 10 years. This will be separated into World, European and Irish sport over the lat decade. (bullet points, around 250 words or even less)
-A Rugby Round-up of how the season has gone so far for DCU (Men's and Women's). This would merely involve ringing the Rugby Development Officer Jack Hanratty and getting a few quotes from club captains and other players). (300 words)
More match reports may crop up in the next day or so, so let me know if you are free on Wednesday to cover a GAA match. If you have any ideas at all, just email me them!
Thanks and all the best,
Niall Farrell
Sports Editor
The College View


This is when the 'wigs' in DCU might feel their heart beat that 'little' bit quicker!

This was an email forwarded to me last night.

thusspakeblixa

jimmylive wrote: »

The college view email i just got, be funny if something got in about it! I bolded it up.


Hi everyone,
This week we have a number of stories for The College View sports section.
- DCU play St Pats in Drumcondra this Wednesday at 2pm at one of the final soccer matches before the Christmas break. The 11, 11a, 13 or 13a will get you straight to Drumcondra and it promises to be a good one. (400 words)
- Three DCU players were among the Sporting Fingal team that recently won the FAI Cup. I need someone to interview one of them (probably Eamonn Zayed or Fiachra McArdle) (500 words)
- DCU recently won in the road relay championships. There has been some controversy however (you may have seen the thread on boards) over whether the DCU athletes were eligible for selection. A bit of digging about here, could make for a nice investigative piece. (550 words)
- We're doing a look back at sport over the last 10 years. This will be separated into World, European and Irish sport over the lat decade. (bullet points, around 250 words or even less)
-A Rugby Round-up of how the season has gone so far for DCU (Men's and Women's). This would merely involve ringing the Rugby Development Officer Jack Hanratty and getting a few quotes from club captains and other players). (300 words)
More match reports may crop up in the next day or so, so let me know if you are free on Wednesday to cover a GAA match. If you have any ideas at all, just email me them!
Thanks and all the best,
Niall Farrell
Sports Editor
The College View


This is when the 'wigs' in DCU might feel their heart beat that 'little' bit quicker!

This was an email forwarded to me last night.

Thanks for quoting my entire email there!

The article will focus on the fact that DCU won and may try to find out what the story is here.
Lord knows some of it is indecipherable.

spockety

This thread is being given ONE more chance.

I have deleted swathes of posts for various reasons.

This thread will only survive if people stop discussing individuals, and making unfounded allegations or accusations, which while not naming anybody involve make it very obvious who is being talked about.

Allude to individuals, or bring this thread down a dodgy path, and it will be closed, and there may be bannings.

jimmylive

well done COTB! thanks for getting the thread restricted!

As for ricflair and deepthroat. I love you guys!

Keep the faith

sunnyjim

Can we get the posts that had all the scandal and gossip back? They were hilarious!

jimmylive

spockety wrote: »

This thread will only survive if people stop discussing individuals, and making unfounded allegations or accusations, which while not naming anybody involve make it very obvious who is being talked about.

Hi Spockety, I know what your saying regarding some of the allegations and that, but the majority of it was FACT!

I'd say you found it highly entertaining all the same? :P

billymortansack

Who gives a toss. Road relays, exams, boards.ie, oh no he broke the rules because he cant pass his exams.

Tossers.

manlad

billymortansack wrote: »

Who gives a toss. Road relays, exams, boards.ie, oh no he broke the rules because he cant pass his exams.

Tossers.

Please don't post on a thread that you havn't got the first idea of what its about
nobody asked for your opinion

billymortansack

What are u talking about nobody asked my opinion. Nobody asked anyone's opinion.Clown.
And i know exactly what its about.
My point is, who cares? Leave the lad alone. He was a good enough runner to get on the DCU 'A' team. Its a stupid rule. IF u dont allow students in who are struggling acedemically then not only is it a foot race, its a bleedin academic test aswell. Its a stupid rule. Its the enrollment and registration in DCU thats the problem.

ergo its a load of toss. Whats the debate here?

spockety

This thread has outlived it's usefulness.