Will Aer Lingus resume Dulles to Dublin route?

ramshock

for the summer?

highlydebased

Unlikely- Enda Corneille has said its unlikely, the passenger demand was simply not there.

ramshock

Neon-Circles wrote: »

Unlikely- Enda Corneille has said its unlikely, the passenger demand was simply not there.

crap....thanks

Enigma'

DUB-IAD won't be back anytime soon!

Enda Corneille has said its unlikely, the passenger demand was simply not there.

The demand is there, it was entirely their own fault that the route failed.

Barname

are you having a laugh?

it is 50/50 if Aer Lingus will still be operating next summer let alone expanding T/A loss making routes

Enigma'

are you having a laugh?

it is 50/50 if Aer Lingus will still be operating next summer let alone expanding T/A loss making routes

......or maybe your the one having a laugh? Even if the current rate of cash burn continues (which it won't), there's no danger of EI going bankrupt until at least 2011.

Less of the scare tactics.

Barname

Enigma' wrote: »

Less of the scare tactics.

No scare tactics, I deal with facts....

The airline's chief executive, Christoph Mueller, who took over on Sept. 1, has said the formerly state-owned and union-friendly airline has only a 50-50 chance of survival.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9BRTCS00.htm

Less of the smoke and mirrors

FOGOFUNK

Christoph Mueller is covering his own ass already!

Dacian

Barname wrote: »

No scare tactics, I deal with facts....
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9BRTCS00.htm
Less of the smoke and mirrors

Actually the correct quote is along the lines of "better than 50/50" and he does not give a timeframe....unlike you.

Lets assume Aer Lingus continue to burn their cash reserves as they have been doing..............if so they will still have enough to last 18-24 months. So saying they may not be around next Summer is a scare tactic by you.





Back on topic: The IAD route didn't seem to be advertised as much as the others. The ads were all JFK and BOS, rather than SFO and IAD. Isn't IAD a huge United hub, so surely some blame must be placed on the codeshare partner who looks to have failed to deliver pax to the IAD-DUB service. Considering that Aer lings plan to operate IAD-MAD next year they better hope they gets good profits on that route.


On a related note was recently talking to an old friend who works in EI head office. She told me that Aer Lingus plc made a consistent profit on their Dubai route when it was operating. Apparently the cargo was great and more than made up for any losses on the paying passenger end. Seems very strange therefore that tehy cut the route.

LiamD

It's a shame the SFO route got axed, I'm actually in a position to use it this year. I'm going to give Virgin a try via LHR, seems to be a better product with more baggage allowance for better prices than the other airlines offerings.

One question - why can't EI offer an SFO route via JFK transferring to JetBlue? Their route is transferring to UA via ORD but UA's return flights are inconveniently early.

alpha2zulu

It is extremely unlikely it will return given the losses on IRL-USA. However it is very odd they are going to have 1 A330 based in Dulles come next May for their joint venture with United on IAD-MAD, so on paper it would have made sense to keep DUB-IAD going to allow for aircraft rotation for maintenance etc.

Their recruiting for cabin crew on the EI.com USA site already.

Enigma'

Back on topic: The IAD route didn't seem to be advertised as much as the others. The ads were all JFK and BOS, rather than SFO and IAD. Isn't IAD a huge United hub, so surely some blame must be placed on the codeshare partner who looks to have failed to deliver pax to the IAD-DUB service. Considering that Aer lings plan to operate IAD-MAD next year they better hope they gets good profits on that route.

Very little marketing on the US side, failure to secure corporate contracts, no connections offered to/from DUB (except SNN and LHR) resulting in very little feed at this end, lack of a UA codeshare when the route was launched (the United codeshare was only in operation a few weeks when EI announced that the route was to be cut), all combined with a very inconsistent product were the main reasons for the routes' failure.

EI failed to address any of the above issues when the route was launched. The sad thing is that this route could have been a major success (the demand was there) had EI put in a little effort, but they just fell flat on their face once again.

However it is very odd they are going to have 1 A330 based in Dulles come next May for their joint venture with United on IAD-MAD

I'm still a little puzzled as to why EI think a route like this is suitable for them. The only advantage is that it's a relatively low-risk venture.