A Brief History of Medical Marijuana

roneythetube

A very interesting read in a recent edition of Time magazine
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1931247,00.html

Has anyone here ever used 'medical marijuana'? If so, for which conditions?
Did it work? Was it better than prescription medication?

It seems these dispensaries are flourishing in California - can you ever see them operating here?

peace all

wudangclan

After an 18 month period of not smoking ,I had an accident where i broke my arm and had to get a plate inserted. On leaving the hospital they offered me a pain killer,begins with d,i forget the name,and they said i would have to take a second pill to counteract the side effects of the first pill (funk that i thought to myself).
So I got some medical grade skunk and smoked copiously for 2 weeks and it worked just fine for me.
(Been back smoking ever since. I just use it for general malaise these days.)

DrumSteve

any oul excuse works these days.

El Weirdo

roneythetube wrote: »

A very interesting read in a recent edition of Time magazine
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1931247,00.html

Has anyone here ever used 'medical marijuana'? If so, for which conditions?
Did it work? Was it better than prescription medication?

It seems these dispensaries are flourishing in California - can you ever see them operating here?

peace all

INCOMING!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cWzqYM6Ha8

Joey the lips

I wonder is this like the "Medical cocaine" they use to put in the famous brand of cola. This is just really another legalise drugs thread dont ya think?

roneythetube

Stand strong folks! Avoid the missiles if possible!:)

Seriously though - who else on here can tell us about a real example of this kinda thing. I mean is there really such a thing as 'Medical marijuana'?

My name is URL

I know of a woman over 50 who uses it for MS, swears by it in fact.

It's a damn sight better than the plethora of drugs traditionally used to treat pain I guess

Rented Mule

I cracked a tooth on a bank holiday weekend.

Not only did it help me get through the weekend, I put on four kilos.

Prof.Badass

It won't be long untill synthetic cannabinoids in pills will be able to replicate all the medicinal effects of cannabis (some (such as those mimicing cannabis's immunosuppresant effects) won't even get you high).

Of course people will still claim smoking cannabis is better :rolleyes::D.

and yes, cannabis' just didn't sound right

AnonoBoy

I know someone in California who has a prescription for it. I think his condition is boredom.

Borneo Fnctn

I'd love a medical blunt right now.

Wazdakka

I smoke Medical marijuana on pretty much a daily basis for my condition.
I find it works very well ...... and...... ehh......


What was the question again?
Ah Fúck it.. probably wasn't important anyway.



Smooooke on the Waaaattteeeerrrr.....

roneythetube

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I know someone in California who has a prescription for it. I think his condition is boredom.

nice one! Will doctors here ever be so enlightened?:P

genericguy

roneythetube wrote: »

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1931247,00.html

Has anyone here ever used 'medical marijuana'?

i do, because i suffer with the most severe cluster headaches you can possibly imagine. no prescribed meds work for me whatsoever, i basically lose about 4 days from the start of an attack till the end of one, and the only thing that tends to ease the pain is that. however, i wouldn't tend to say no to a bit being passed around socially either.

meditraitor

roneythetube wrote: »

A very interesting read in a recent edition of Time magazine
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1931247,00.html

Has anyone here ever used 'medical marijuana'? If so, for which conditions?
Did it work? Was it better than prescription medication?

It seems these dispensaries are flourishing in California - can you ever see them operating here?

peace all

Very funny article,

Doctors also warned against overuse of marijuana, believing that too much consumption caused impotence, blindness and "seeing devils."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1931247,00.html#ixzz0WlHuJjYa

There is another article in Time this week you might enjoy

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1937370,00.html

Did a Time-Traveling Bird Sabotage the Collider?
two esteemed physicists have formulated a theory that suggests an alternative explanation: perhaps a time-traveling bird was sent from the future to sabotage the experiment. Bech Nielsen of the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen and Masao Ninomiya of the Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics in Kyoto, Japan, have published several papers over the past year arguing that the CERN experiment may be the latest in a series of physics research projects whose purposes are so unacceptable to the universe that they are doomed to fail, subverted by the future.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1937370,00.html#ixzz0WlIbSjZh

I really wish I had a smoke before reading this little nugget, classic

roneythetube

meditraitor wrote: »

Very funny article,



There is another article in Time this week you might enjoy

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1937370,00.html


I really wish I had a smoke before reading this little nugget, classic

not really what we are discussing there though is it? :rolleyes: A bit offtopic, no? anyone else know of medicinal uses of cannabis?

Pace2008

roneythetube wrote: »

Stand strong folks! Avoid the missiles if possible!:)

Seriously though - who else on here can tell us about a real example of this kinda thing. I mean is there really such a thing as 'Medical marijuana'?

It's given to some cancer patients undertaking chemotherapy to alleviate nausea and stimulate appetite. Cannabis is an antinauseant and that's a fact, not some piece of hippie propoganda.

Here's eminent scientist Stephen Jay Gould's account of his experience with medical marijuana.

Don't assume that that a compound has no medical value just because it's a popular recreational drug. Ketamine, nitrous oxide and valium are used and abused around the world, but are also essential medicines according to the World Health Organisation.

meditraitor

roneythetube wrote: »

not really what we are discussing there though is it? :rolleyes: A bit offtopic, no? anyone else know of medicinal uses of cannabis?

If you really wanted to know about the medical uses of Marajuana you would have posted this in the sciance forum were it would have received some sound and statistical replies but you posted in in after hours which makes me think you are a rabble rouser looking to steer it onto the old "legalise cannabis bandwagon"

I was curious about the article so I read it, but I also read some of the other articles on the site just to get a grasp of the readership demographic and finding it to be a bit mental I just decided to retort with another funny article from the same site.....

Not on topic but not in the right forum either wouldnt you say?

Be cool

genericguy

meditraitor wrote: »

If you really wanted to know about the medical uses of Marajuana you would have posted this in the sciance forum were it would have received some sound and statistical replies but you posted in in after hours which makes me think you are a rabble rouser looking to steer it onto the old "legalise cannabis bandwagon"

I was curious about the article so I read it, but I also read some of the other articles on the site just to get a grasp of the readership demographic and finding it to be a bit mental I just decided to retort with another funny article from the same site.....

Not on topic but not in the right forum either wouldnt you say?

Be cool

i agree. by the way, we should legalise cannabis.

Lizzzard

Joey the lips wrote: »

I wonder is this like the "Medical cocaine" they use to put in the famous brand of cola. This is just really another legalise drugs thread dont ya think?

Well seeing as this 'medical cocaine' was removed long before marijuana was even made illegal in this country I don't see what relevance your post has to this thread as its not just another legalise drugs thread.



A friend of mine from the states has one of these cards, picked it up for $50 off some dodgy guy, which brings up the legality of the whole 'medical marijuana' system. Basically if you want this kind of weed you will find someone with a card and go pick up your sack, its for this reason that I don't think anything like that would be introduced here in Ireland.

But for the people who use it for legitimate cases I'd have to agree with My Name is URL by saying that it is a "damn sight better than the plethora of drugs traditionally used to treat pain"

No matter who you get your drugs off your money is going to evil. Its either the pharmaceutical corporations or drug lords. Shame really when we could all just grow our own indoors away from nosy bastrads who don't know any better.

roneythetube

meditraitor wrote: »

If you really wanted to know about the medical uses of Marajuana you would have posted this in the sciance forum were it would have received some sound and statistical replies but you posted in in after hours which makes me think you are a rabble rouser looking to steer it onto the old "legalise cannabis bandwagon"

I was curious about the article so I read it, but I also read some of the other articles on the site just to get a grasp of the readership demographic and finding it to be a bit mental I just decided to retort with another funny article from the same site.....

Not on topic but not in the right forum either wouldnt you say?

Be cool

Yeah - sorry about that - possibly (probably?) is in the wrong forum. :oNormally speaking Time magazine is a well respected 'serious news' kinda magazine ain;t it? I thought is was very well known worldwide?

meditraitor

roneythetube wrote: »

Yeah - sorry about that - possibly (probably?) is in the wrong forum. :oNormally speaking Time magazine is a well respected 'serious news' kinda magazine ain;t it? I thought is was very well known worldwide?

Only pulling your leg ourlad, its friday. After Hours After ALL.

Have a nice weekend all, im shuting down the PC


COME on Ireland......

PeakOutput

roneythetube wrote: »

Seriously though - who else on here can tell us about a real example of this kinda thing. I mean is there really such a thing as 'Medical marijuana'?

you are exceptionally uninformed should you really even be commenting on something you know so little about?

http://www.medicalmarijuanainformation.com/home/

there are numerous states around the world that have marijuana legalised for medical use

Wertz

No experience of it myself apart from self medicating. Great for broken bones and back pain....not so good for chest infections.

You only have to read articles like the following to have it underlined for you how much of a mess is being caused by prescription medicine and it's incorrect or overusage by doctors.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8356423.stm

Now I don't know whether medical cannabis could be used to replace the anti psychotics referred to in the above article, but it has to be said that if doctors and the medical establishment are willing to cost the lives of over 1800 people by prescribing these pharmaceuticals, then it really begagrs belief that using marijuana for medicinal purposes is still frowned upon or shyed away from for political reasons, when virtually no deaths can be directly attributed to it's use.

PeakOutput

i challenge anyone to give me a good reason as to why the first guy in this video should not be allowed use marijuana to improve his life?

http://www.time.com/time/video/player/0,32068,28761858001_1909195,00.html

Shulgin

LSD and Psilocybin are currently being trialled for cluster headache relief. So far results are really positive. "Inside LSD" has a piece about this topic.

It`s quite a good unbiased documentary about LSD and other psychedelics in general. Rare these days.

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=7SGTSZ8P

genericguy wrote: »

i do, because i suffer with the most severe cluster headaches you can possibly imagine. no prescribed meds work for me whatsoever, i basically lose about 4 days from the start of an attack till the end of one, and the only thing that tends to ease the pain is that. however, i wouldn't tend to say no to a bit being passed around socially either.

robby^5

in b4 psychosis.

Think I may self-medicate tonight

roneythetube

meditraitor wrote: »

Only pulling your leg ourlad, its friday. After Hours After ALL.

Have a nice weekend all, im shuting down the PC


COME on Ireland......

nice one ourlad. You are correct this is AH after all!
The main reason I put this topic in AH is that it's by far the busiest forum on boards.ie and would potentially receive more views/replies etc than had I put it in the science forums.

Because after all, isn't one of the purposes of boards.ie to provide a forum for debate and a space to discuss these things?.:)

I heard a clip from a talk this week by Prof. David Nutt who mentioned how when something is deemed 'illegal' it seems to put a stop to being able to debate some issues. Not sure about that but AH is a great place to discuss things and to get a wide cross-section of replies and attitudes.

roneythetube

PeakOutput wrote: »

you are exceptionally uninformed should you really even be commenting on something you know so little about?

http://www.medicalmarijuanainformation.com/home/

there are numerous states around the world that have marijuana legalised for medical use

nice one - thanks for that link. It is really full of amazing information that I never knew about before. This is exactly what I was asking about.
However a lot of that is US based (not that it makes any difference - people get sick in the same ways don;t they - wherever they are?)

But what I was wondering was about people on boards.ie who know firsthand about any genuine 'medicinal' properties of this drug. Is it really 'medicine' for any Irish people?

wudangclan

A friend of mine and another friends wife,who both also have migraines,smoke it to alleviate the headaches.
They consider it a godsend.

whadabouchasir

I wathched "Super high me" the last day.Basically it's where a guy smokes weed all day evey day for 30 days and studies the effects.He lives in california and so gets medical marijuana as it turns out the DEA are shutting down many legal dispensaries as the sale of Cannabis is a federal offence even though medical marijuanana is legal in california.

PeakOutput

whadabouchasir wrote: »

I wathched "Super high me" the last day.Basically it's where a guy smokes weed all day evey day for 30 days and studies the effects.He lives in california and so gets medical marijuana as it turns out the DEA are shutting down many legal dispensaries as the sale of Cannabis is a federal offence even though medical marijuanana is legal in california.

as of a few days ago they are no longer doing this there is some sort of amnesty for states were its legal at a state level

nice one - thanks for that link. It is really full of amazing information that I never knew about before. This is exactly what I was asking about.
However a lot of that is US based (not that it makes any difference - people get sock in the same ways don;t they - wherever they are?)

But what I was wondering was about people on boards.ie who know firsthand about any genuine 'medicinal' properties of this drug. Is it really 'medicine' for any Irish people?

actually it was canada based but whatever. what has the irish community got to do with weather it is medicinal or not it is scientifically proven, end of discussion. now you can argue the rights and wrongs of legalisation until the cows come home but you cannot argue there is no medicinal qualities

tallaght01

roneythetube wrote: »

nice one! Will doctors here ever be so enlightened?:P

Yes, it's not prescribed routinely because doctors need to be enlightened.

Nothing to do with it being illegal lol

roneythetube

But is it the doctors that are not 'enlightened' or is it wider society?

I mean, can you see the day when there might be clinics/dispensaries like the ones they have in the US where marijuana is distributed as a medicine following a recommendation from a doctor?

I would guess many Irish doctors would know very little about any medicinal qualities marijuana?

But if enough people can show that they use marijuana medicinally well then doctors will have to listen to them.

Seachmall

roneythetube wrote: »

But if enough people can show that they use marijuana medicinally well then doctors will have to listen to them.

Not necessarily, the IOM in America has published quite a few papers which conclude that Marijuana is an effective medicine. As have the EMCDDA, doesn't mean anyone will listen. I believe Harney explicitly said she was oppose to medical marijuana regardless of what evidence is presented to her.

She should be shot in my opinion. It's her job to be objective not to let her outdated and ignorant bias make even worse the lives of the dying. Of course that seems to be a requirement to getting elected in Irish politics :pac:.

PeakOutput

roneythetube wrote: »

But is it the doctors that are not 'enlightened' or is it wider society?

I mean, can you see the day when there might be clinics/dispensaries like the ones they have in the US where marijuana is distributed as a medicine following a recommendation from a doctor?

I would guess many Irish doctors would know very little about any medicinal qualities marijuana?

But if enough people can show that they use marijuana medicinally well then doctors will have to listen to them.

its not up to the doctors they cant just decide to prescribe it would need a national effort to legalise for medicinal purposes first and i dont see that happening in this country any time soon. if those cabbanoids(sp?) are legal in this country i would be very very suprised if they are not already being prescribed

it will be way easier when it becomes federal policy in the states and not just on a state level but that could still be ten years away

superhigh me is a good film to watch although its not really geared towards medical marijuana

here is a video i like on the subject but again its only loosely aimed at medical marijuana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMLSyOMiYd4

clearly im biased as i believe its a disgrace its illegal at all not to mind jsut for medicinal use

PeakOutput

Seachmall wrote: »

I believe Harney explicitly said she was oppose to medical marijuana regardless of what evidence is presented to her.

that is a disgrace

Shulgin

PeakOutput wrote: »

that is a disgrace

A complete disgrace.

On the other hand, thing seem to be marching on across the pond.

http://www.thedailyinquirer.net/cannabis-cafe-opens-in-portland/116453

Cannabis Cafe opens in Portland

US opens its first ever marijuana cafe. Located in Portland, Oregon, the Cannabis Cafe is the first ever to give certified medical marijuana users a venue where they can get marijuana and smoke it.
Oregon’s executive director of NORML (a group pushing for marijuana legalization) Madeline Martinez, says Cannabis Cafe symbolizes personal freedom for the organization’s members.
She adds, “Our plans go beyond serving food and marijuana. We hope to have classes, seminars, even a Cannabis Community College, based here to help people learn about growing and other uses for cannabis.”
The cafe is a two-story building. It formerly housed an adult erotic club called Rumpspankers. Now it’s open to any Oregon resident who is a NORML member. They just have to hold an official medical marijuana card.
Members enjoy free marijuana from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. They also serve food. All these for a monthly fee of $25.

Wertz

Shulgin wrote: »

Rumpspankers.

lol

Shulgin wrote: »

Members enjoy free marijuana from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. They also serve food. All these for a monthly fee of $25.

:eek:

*frantically applies for green card*