Priest (81) told to face being extradited on rape charges

jerry2623

Is it me or do other people find it a bit disquieting that an 81 year old man can be put in jail over an alleged rape that took place 40 years ago. Surely this case cannot either be proved or disproved at this stage.

I wonder does the fact that the guy was a priest make a difference.For an example my grandfather is a retired teacher I wonder can somone now come up and make a similar allegation about him and have him named publicly

The man making the claim is now 55 years of age and claims he was 15 when this happened.

While I do not question his right to make a claim I do wonder how can it be proved and I wonder what evidence the state has to seek an extradition warrant . I have copied this from the Irish Times

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1112/1224258661997.html

genericguy

why does it make you sick that a potential rapist may be brought to justice? i suppose roman polanski should be left to it then?

Gone Drinking

jerry2623 wrote: »

For an example my grandfather is a retired teacher I wonder can somone now come up and make a similar allegation about him and have him named publicly

They can if he spent the 70s grabbing small willies

KingLoser

If he is guilty, I don't really think the age would matter. Actually, set him in a room with a horny young rapist, and maybe he'll have an idea on how he made the 15 year old lad feel.

thomond2006

Jaysus, it just goes on and on and on...

:mad:

PirateShampoo

Worms, Can, Open.

Mr. Presentable

My problem with this is the accused is named, the accuser not. Regardless of his age, should he be acquitted the priest's life is ruined.

Wazdakka

* Gets Popcorn.. and waves a little "Go Troll" flag*

jerry2623

I think Guys you are missing the point of the Argument .What I question is how can it be proved and what type of judicial system do we have.
Is it one run on the emotions of the people of the day or is it run on a fair basis.looking at the answers above I think we run it on popular emotions . which brings to mind mob rule etc

NothingMan

jerry2623 wrote: »

I think Guys you are missing the point of the Argument .What I question is how can it be proved and what type of judicial system do we have.
Is it one run on the emotions of the people of the day or is it run on a fair basis.looking at the answers above I think we run it on popular emotions . which brings to mind mob rule etc

He's not going to be extradited and sent to jail, he will be given a trial. They will call witnesses and get statements from the accused and accuser. Possibly see if anyone else comes forward that may have been abused.

After the trial he will be found guilty or not, and if he's guilty he deserves to be punished if he's innocent he can fly back off to where ever he wants. I don't see the problem. If the prosecution has no evidence he'll walk, fair and square. Age shouldn't matter in a case like this.

jerry2623

NothingMan wrote: »

After the trial he will be found guilty or not, and if he's guilty he deserves to be punished if he's innocent he can fly back off to where ever he wants. I don't see the problem. If the prosecution has no evidence he'll walk, fair and square. Age shouldn't matter in a case like this.

He actually is in Jail as we speak
And the fact he has been named does that matter ?

mikemac

Ah South Bend Indiana

The only thing I know about that area is the famous Notre Dame college is there.
And the football team too of course, Go Irish!

NothingMan

jerry2623 wrote: »

And the fact he has been named does that matter ?

That is a very unfair. If he is innocent it would be very hard to restore a reputation after being named a sex offender. I completely agree on that one.

AckwelFoley

I dont support a statute of limitations when it comes to priests and rape..

why?

Because thise ****ers like to rape children..

johnnycomlately

Priest85. FTW!

Hephaestus

jerry2623 wrote: »

Is it me or do other people find it a bit disquieting that an 81 year old man can be put in jail over an alleged rape that took place 40 years ago.

Troll troll troll your boat ..................

DigiGal

Wazdakka wrote: »

* Gets Popcorn.. and waves a little "Go Troll" flag*

*Watches at thread descends into bitchy argumentative madness*

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

jerry2623 wrote: »

Is it me or do other people find it a bit disquieting that an 81 year old man can be put in jail over an alleged rape that took place 40 years ago. Surely this case cannot either be proved or disproved at this stage.

I wonder does the fact that the guy was a priest make a difference.For an example my grandfather is a retired teacher I wonder can somone now come up and make a similar allegation about him and have him named publicly

The man making the claim is now 55 years of age and claims he was 15 when this happened.

While I do not question his right to make a claim I do wonder how can it be proved and I wonder what evidence the state has to seek an extradition warrant . I have copied this from the Irish Times

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1112/1224258661997.html

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/channelsurfing/uploaded_images/trolls-doll-red-hair-700670.jpg

ejmaztec

jerry2623 wrote: »

He actually is in Jail as we speak
And the fact he has been named does that matter ?

That would be an ecumenical matter.

The_Minister

Hephaestus wrote: »

Troll troll troll your boat ..................

Why is it a troll?
Any prosecution after so many decades will almost certainly come down to hearsay evidence and a he said-he said. Most likely witness memories will be very fuzzy (excepting the two involved) after so long.

Don't forget that nun who was wrongfully imprisoned - the only reason she got out was that her accuser admitted she lied. Otherwise a good, innocent woman would still be rotting in jail.

If they can make the case then grand, but I do think having a fair case about something that happened decades ago is much harder than normal, and runs a higher risk of an innocent being jailed.

Pdfile

jerry2623 wrote: »

Is it me or do other people find it a bit disquieting that an 81 year old man can be put in jail over an alleged rape that took place 40 years ago. Surely this case cannot either be proved or disproved at this stage.

I wonder does the fact that the guy was a priest make a difference.For an example my grandfather is a retired teacher I wonder can somone now come up and make a similar allegation about him and have him named publicly

The man making the claim is now 55 years of age and claims he was 15 when this happened.

While I do not question his right to make a claim I do wonder how can it be proved and I wonder what evidence the state has to seek an extradition warrant . I have copied this from the Irish Times

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1112/1224258661997.html

just shoot the /b/stard and get it over with, you can run but not hide from yer' crimes.

Wazdakka

The_Minister wrote: »

Why is it a troll?

Well Duh..

Because the post is obviously in some way related to Scandinavian folklore

Busi_Girl08

Better late than never IMO...

Pdfile

Wazdakka wrote: »

Well Duh..

Because the post is obviously in some way related to Scandinavian folklore

i thought they lived on the radio

happyfriday

The_Minister wrote: »

Why is it a troll?
Any prosecution after so many decades will almost certainly come down to hearsay evidence and a he said-he said. Most likely witness memories will be very fuzzy (excepting the two involved) after so long.

Don't forget that nun who was wrongfully imprisoned - the only reason she got out was that her accuser admitted she lied. Otherwise a good, innocent woman would still be rotting in jail.

If they can make the case then grand, but I do think having a fair case about something that happened decades ago is much harder than normal, and runs a higher risk of an innocent being jailed.

To be honest alot of these cases have happened decades ago the victims can be to frighted or ashamed to come forward sooner. Because there is a lack of physical eveidence does that mean that these victims should not get justice? I think all you need do is look at the public outrage after the publication of the Ryan report to see that this is not the case. I don't agree that there is a higher risk of being jailed either I think it would the opposite TBH.

Have you any information about that nun? I've not heard anything about it.