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Is there a 2nd world ?
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12-11-2009 8:20am#1
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BraziliaNZ wrote: »what can you not afford a new i-phone or something?
Yes.
I get confused sometimes between first world and third world.
I guess I shouldn't really because third world countries tend to have corrupt inept governments, massive national debt, violent drug cartels, the ability to blame everything that goes wrong on their former imperial master, a lack of potable water in parts of the country, poor public transport, poor state health care, and an underfunded military. Not to mention a fair amount of catholic missionaries educating the population
(Tin hat - check, flak jacket - check, cupboard under the stairs - check):D0 -
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Hiya,
Politics postgrad here, might be able to help. After WWII, the political landscape in the world was marked by the emergence of two superpowers, the US and the Soviet Union. Both wanted to gain influence in countries all over the world, and particularly in newly-emerging states that were going through processes of decolonisation. These new states became known as the Third World (now the 'developing world', due to negative connotations in the former term); the 'First World' denoted the US and it's western (capitalist) allies, and the 'Second World' was Soviet Russia (communist). The 'Second World' doesn't exist anymore, and despite popular mythology is doesn't refer to countries that are in-between 'developed' and 'developing' - sadly political science has created a dichotomy and each country is other one or the other. In terms of the 'Third World', or the 'developing world', many people now argue that in this age of globalisation, it is difficult to conceptualise it is a distinct geographical space, and argue for abandonment of the term altogether.
In terms of the 'developing world', this is a definition from one of my textbooks, in case you're wondering how countries are grouped nowadays: [FONT="]"The term ‘developing world’ has conventionally referred to the predominantly post-colonial regions of Africa, Asia, Latin America and the Caribbean, and the Middle East, perceived to be poorer, less economically advanced, and less ‘modern’ than the developed world."
I suppose I should also add 'yer ma' to make it AH appropriate?
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Hiya,
Politics postgrad here, might be able to help. After WWII, the political landscape in the world was marked by the emergence of two superpowers, the US and the Soviet Union. Both wanted to gain influence in countries all over the world, and particularly in newly-emerging states that were going through processes of decolonisation. These new states became known as the Third World (now the 'developing world', due to negative connotations in the former term); the 'First World' denoted the US and it's western (capitalist) allies, and the 'Second World' was Soviet Russia (communist). The 'Second World' doesn't exist anymore, and despite popular mythology is doesn't refer to countries that are in-between 'developed' and 'developing' - sadly political science has created a dichotomy and each country is other one or the other. In terms of the 'Third World', or the 'developing world', many people now argue that in this age of globalisation, it is difficult to conceptualise it is a distinct geographical space, and argue for abandonment of the term altogether.
In terms of the 'developing world', this is a definition from one of my textbooks, in case you're wondering how countries are grouped nowadays: [FONT="]"The term ‘developing world’ has conventionally referred to the predominantly post-colonial regions of Africa, Asia, Latin America and the Caribbean, and the Middle East, perceived to be poorer, less economically advanced, and less ‘modern’ than the developed world."
I suppose I should also add 'yer ma' to make it AH appropriate?
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YORE ma. Learn to spell!:pac:Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.
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Fratton Fred wrote: »Yes.
I get confused sometimes between first world and third world.
I guess I shouldn't really because third world countries tend to have corrupt inept governments, massive national debt, violent drug cartels, the ability to blame everything that goes wrong on their former imperial master, a lack of potable water in parts of the country, poor public transport, poor state health care, and an underfunded military. Not to mention a fair amount of catholic missionaries educating the population
(Tin hat - check, flak jacket - check, cupboard under the stairs - check):D
the usa must be very near 3rd world too
corruption at the highest levels - check
massive national debt- check
violent drug cartels - check
the ability to blame everything on bush - check
lack of portable water in parts of the country - check
poor public transport -check
no public health care - check0 -
Hiya,
Politics postgrad here, might be able to help. After WWII, the political landscape in the world was marked by the emergence of two superpowers, the US and the Soviet Union. Both wanted to gain influence in countries all over the world, and particularly in newly-emerging states that were going through processes of decolonisation. These new states became known as the Third World (now the 'developing world', due to negative connotations in the former term); the 'First World' denoted the US and it's western (capitalist) allies, and the 'Second World' was Soviet Russia (communist). The 'Second World' doesn't exist anymore, and despite popular mythology is doesn't refer to countries that are in-between 'developed' and 'developing' - sadly political science has created a dichotomy and each country is other one or the other. In terms of the 'Third World', or the 'developing world', many people now argue that in this age of globalisation, it is difficult to conceptualise it is a distinct geographical space, and argue for abandonment of the term altogether.
In terms of the 'developing world', this is a definition from one of my textbooks, in case you're wondering how countries are grouped nowadays: [FONT="]"The term ‘developing world’ has conventionally referred to the predominantly post-colonial regions of Africa, Asia, Latin America and the Caribbean, and the Middle East, perceived to be poorer, less economically advanced, and less ‘modern’ than the developed world."
I suppose I should also add 'yer ma' to make it AH appropriate?
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Fratton Fred wrote: »Yes.
I get confused sometimes between first world and third world.
I guess I shouldn't really because third world countries tend to have corrupt inept governments, massive national debt, violent drug cartels, the ability to blame everything that goes wrong on their former imperial master, a lack of potable water in parts of the country, poor public transport, poor state health care, and an underfunded military. Not to mention a fair amount of catholic missionaries educating the population
(Tin hat - check, flak jacket - check, cupboard under the stairs - check):D
Seriously get a fcuking grip. Your nauseating "please the masses" post shows what a greedy bunch of bastards our country became during the Celtic Tiger era.
Go work in a sweatshop and then tell me we live in a third world country.
Go to some African breadbasket and see starving children and then tell me we live in a third world country.
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Fratton Fred wrote: »Yes.
I get confused sometimes between first world and third world.
I guess I shouldn't really because third world countries tend to have corrupt inept governments, massive national debt, violent drug cartels, the ability to blame everything that goes wrong on their former imperial master, a lack of potable water in parts of the country, poor public transport, poor state health care, and an underfunded military. Not to mention a fair amount of catholic missionaries educating the population
(Tin hat - check, flak jacket - check, cupboard under the stairs - check):Drossie1977 wrote: »the usa must be very near 3rd world too
corruption at the highest levels - check
massive national debt- check
violent drug cartels - check
the ability to blame everything on bush - check
lack of portable water in parts of the country - check
poor public transport -check
no public health care - checkDeleted User wrote: »the usaIreland must be very near 3rd world too
corruption at the highest levels - check
massive national debt- check
violent drug cartels - check
the ability to blame everything on bushBritain - check
lack of portable water in parts of the country - check
poor public transport -check
noPoor public health care - checkand of course the UK
corruption at the highest levels - check
massive national debt- check
violent drug cartels - check
the ability to blame everything on blair - check
lack of portable water in parts of the country - check
poor public transport -check
no public health care - check
Ethnic and race wars/riots-check
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Fratton Fred wrote: »Yes.
I get confused sometimes between first world and third world.
I guess I shouldn't really because third world countries tend to have corrupt inept governments, massive national debt, violent drug cartels, the ability to blame everything that goes wrong on their former imperial master, a lack of potable water in parts of the country, poor public transport, poor state health care, and an underfunded military. Not to mention a fair amount of catholic missionaries educating the population
(Tin hat - check, flak jacket - check, cupboard under the stairs - check):D
Every country has its problems.
Corrupt government, name a country without one. National debt, have you look at UK or US lately? What we're is pittance compared to others.
Violent drugs cartels...pffffft. Again, every country has drug problems. If you think we're the worst, you need to travel.
Blame, it's an easy thing to do. The Irish didn't invent it.
About 99% of people in this country have access to clean water. One town clearly means a national emergency in your case.
Poor public transport? I get the bus to work. I take the LUAS to see my friends in Tallaght. I use taxis coming home from a night out, from my experience, it's not poor. It's not perfect though.
Our health care is a mess atm, but still, many countries would beg to have ours. It's mismanaged.
Underfunded military? Off course, we need another few billion for the wars we fight
In a recession we have to make cuts, and our military is not something that we need has opposed to others.
As for education, if you think we're all educated by nuns and priests you need to visit a few. Yes most schools have some religious connected (CBS etc) but the State is in charge of education matters. And students are regularly tested by the State.
Here's some other things to have a pander at.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-life_index
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index
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Hiya,
Politics postgrad here, might be able to help. After WWII, the political landscape in the world was marked by the emergence of two superpowers, the US and the Soviet Union. Both wanted to gain influence in countries all over the world, and particularly in newly-emerging states that were going through processes of decolonisation. These new states became known as the Third World (now the 'developing world', due to negative connotations in the former term); the 'First World' denoted the US and it's western (capitalist) allies, and the 'Second World' was Soviet Russia (communist). The 'Second World' doesn't exist anymore, and despite popular mythology is doesn't refer to countries that are in-between 'developed' and 'developing' - sadly political science has created a dichotomy and each country is other one or the other. In terms of the 'Third World', or the 'developing world', many people now argue that in this age of globalisation, it is difficult to conceptualise it is a distinct geographical space, and argue for abandonment of the term altogether.
In terms of the 'developing world', this is a definition from one of my textbooks, in case you're wondering how countries are grouped nowadays: [FONT="]"The term ‘developing world’ has conventionally referred to the predominantly post-colonial regions of Africa, Asia, Latin America and the Caribbean, and the Middle East, perceived to be poorer, less economically advanced, and less ‘modern’ than the developed world."
I suppose I should also add 'yer ma' to make it AH appropriate?
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tldr
Your username is a palindrome.
Ireland is one of the best countries in the world to live in.
There's a list of wiki stuff elsewhere in the thread.
Then there's the weather.
Never too hot or too cold. Goldilocks would love it here.0 -
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Prepare to watch us drop like a stone in those lists
We used to be 6th in FIFA rankings too.
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