Dan Carter gets 1 Match Suspension for High Tackle

ScrubsfanChris

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/8349430.stm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7KweKvJKLM

Video from RugbyDump.com

SomeFool

I think it's harsh, don't think there was anything malicious in it.

premierstone

Very harsh imo looks like the welsh supporters reaction has prompted them to ban him, although that said he was never going to be playing against Italy in any case.

rentacrowd

Admitting it in the interview probably didn't help. Should have been a penalty, mayby if he was unlucky a yellow but a ban is ridiculous

leeroybrown

At the time I thought if the officials had a proper view of it they would have given a penalty and probably a yellow card. He's definitely unlucky to be cited and banned for what would have been a yellow card at worst in most games I've seen recently.

That said it (subjectively) looks like a deliberate attempt to tackle very hard and quite high so there is an argument that it has no place on a rugby pitch. I just don't think that throwing a token one match ban at Carter really accomplishes anything.

pappyodaniel

pointless ban.

Sangre

Pointless ban imo but the tackle was definitely a yellow card. Wales were in an attacking position in the 22 and Carter tackled very high and hard - this likely prevented Roberts from offloading.

Tim Robbins

Sangre wrote: »

Pointless ban imo but the tackle was definitely a yellow card. Wales were in an attacking position in the 22 and Carter tackled very high and hard - this likely prevented Roberts from offloading.

Does this mean that the IRB deemed it a red card offense?

little173

Ridiculous, sets a very dangerous precedent as well.

Sangre

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Does this mean that the IRB deemed it a red card offense?

I was the under the impression that yes, technically it does. However, I would imagine it was more a case that they don't want to discourage commissioners citing dangerous play.

handsomecake

little173 wrote: »

Ridiculous, sets a very dangerous precedent as well.

big time.
if they use this as a standard,you could ban a bloke per game at least

thomond2006

That doesn't even merit a yellow card.

A joke of a ban.

P_1

Bit pointless banning him for a week seeing as there wasn't a snowball's chance in hell of him playing against Italy anyway.

Tim Robbins

thomond2006 wrote: »

That doesn't even merit a yellow card.

A joke of a ban.

Ah come on. It surely meritted a yellow card. It was reckless and the neck is a very dangerous area to be subjecting to that type of force.

andrewdcs

I'd have said yellow during the match, arms arn't supposed to swing straight into the face, welsh player had the line in front of him, and not like it was ickle Shaney Williams either, Carter can't say he had to stoop to tackle him or that it "slid up". He went in high to take him down hard, yellow card.

Match ban is very harsh though. Ruins next game imho*

* Oh its Italy, so he probably might only have played 1/2 any way. Wilko Carter back on!

Webbs

Was a definite yellow he knew exactly what he was doing you can see and in my opinion was a swinging arm as well as high. He doesnt move his left arm at all to make the tackle.
There have been plenty of other cases of swinging arm high tackles getting longer bans. Just look at the video at 25s and at 1m20 and tell me that Carter isnt targetting Roberts with a swing
And if it had been a tackle on ToL in the same manner there would be plenty baying for Carters blood on this forum

dub_skav

I don't get why everybody thinks it's harsh. It was a swinging arm and he actually accelerates his swing when it is clear he will make contact with the neck. If he had pulled out slightly when he saw he was going high I might have some sympathy, but he followed through on the neck.

Dangerous and he can have no complaints if you ask me.

Peter B

Webbs wrote: »

Was a definite yellow he knew exactly what he was doing you can see and in my opinion was a swinging arm as well as high.

I highly doubt he was thinking to himself going into that tackle - "I should get him high, round the head to definitely stop the offload and slow down the move".

While he may have been trying to get the player at shoulder level I don't think he knew he was purposely going to connect with the head as opposed the shoulders.

In regards the ban I think he is just been made an example of as one of the best players in the world playing against a home nation.

irishbucsfan

dub_skav wrote: »

I don't get why everybody thinks it's harsh. It was a swinging arm and he actually accelerates his swing when it is clear he will make contact with the neck. If he had pulled out slightly when he saw he was going high I might have some sympathy, but he followed through on the neck.

Dangerous and he can have no complaints if you ask me.

What do you mean? It was never clear he'd make contact with the neck, by the time Carter's arm hit him most of his body including his head was behind the player. I know Carter is one of the best in the world at nearly everything he does on the field but it would take a very impressive man to be able to recognise that kind of "opportunity" in the split second that Carter would have had.

It was unlucky. Two players sprinting at almost full pace, one coming in to tackle him from an unorthodox position, it's a tough tackle to make anyway. There was no intention there at all. Of course he accelerated his arm, what did you expect him to do, slow down? That's how injuries happen.


It was unfortunate. It was easily a penalty, perhaps a yellow card, but a ban for that is ridiculous. They're throwing around bans in rugby far too often these days.

little173

I personally dont think it warrants a red but there you go. Also I think it is an obvious political move in that AB's are playing Italy, I really find it hard to believe that he would have been banned for a winner takes all Tri-Nations game for instance.........

Otacon

I think, seeing as this was one of the first possible citing incidents of a SH player in a SH vs. NH game since the Burger fiasco, the IRB felt they should do this to make up for it somehow.

They failed really, as this was no more than a yellow card.

Webbs

Peter B wrote: »

I highly doubt he was thinking to himself going into that tackle - "I should get him high, round the head to definitely stop the offload and slow down the move".

While he may have been trying to get the player at shoulder level I don't think he knew he was purposely going to connect with the head as opposed the shoulders.

In regards the ban I think he is just been made an example of as one of the best players in the world playing against a home nation.

I think that is exactly what he was thinking a few steps before the tackle he holds his run then swings the arm all the time look at his eye line he is looking for the high hit as he sees it as the only way to stop the move.
As I said earlier, for me it was the swinging arm that made it a dangerous tackle worthy of a ban, to say he was made an example of is just plain nonsense.
Again I say if it had been an Irish scrum half who got hit like that there would be no doubt that pretty much everyone on here would have been screaming for a ban

Iompair

As the commentator said, its a cheap shot, if it had been picked up by the ref he'd probably have gotten a yellow and no more said.

Its just because it was missed during the game that the IRB probably felt they had to penalise Carter in some way. He's never struck me as a dirty player, probably just one of those heat of the moment things.

Munster Blogger

Bit harsh. I didn't think it even warrent a yellow. Saying that he did fly through the air and cut him down. Looked good:D

ScrubsfanChris

It seems that there hasn't been a month go by in recent times without a top flight player getting a ban of some sort.
Crazy!

Trojan

Iompair wrote: »

if it had been picked up by the ref he'd probably have gotten a yellow and no more said.

Its just because it was missed during the game that the IRB probably felt they had to penalise Carter in some way.

I agree that it was probably because it wasn't picked up by the ref in game. I think it would have been a very harsh yellow - a 3 pts give-away, and a stern talking to should have been the outcome IMO.

Munster Blogger

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

It seems that there hasn't been a month go by in recent times without a top flight player getting a ban of some sort.
Crazy!

After the Burger fiasco i don't think anyone is safe. IRB are out to prove a point.