JP Poker Mini WSOP - Thanks & Feedback Thread

JP Poker

Hi All,

Firstly a big thanks to everyone who made this weekend possible.

Christine on reg desk
Gareth & Lee on cash desk
John, Nicola, Duke & Yeifi who helped TD'd the all events
Carl who did an excellent job with the updates
Dani who organised the dealers
All the dealers
Phil Baker & Joe O'Neill for their no stop banter at there tables, it was like a comedy show.

The Hotel staff who did their best under extreme pressure.

And all the players who travelled far and near.

JP Poker

Looking for some feedback on what you would like to see changed for this event next year.

Also any problems that you may have found with the hotel over the weekend as I will be bringing this thread into them so hopefully we can improve our next event at the Maldron Hotel.

Gus Ivey

Me personally am not a fan of an hour break. I know most of the bigger tournaments do have an hour break, but I would prefer 30 or 45mins. If this cannot happen because queues are too long for the dinner and people won't have time to get their food and relax, then maybe try a staggered break like they had in the IPO.

A lot of people may disagree with that , thats just what i prefer personally.

Thats the only minor flaw for me, but otherwise everthing was top notch. well done

RichieLawlor

The bag and tag at the end of friday night seemed to take hours, was not enough people on hand to do this

JP Poker

RichieLawlor wrote: »

The bag and tag at the end of friday night seemed to take hours, was not enough people on hand to do this

Hi Richie,

I know that took way longer than anticipated, I really thought we would have lost more players by then which have meant we would have had more staff on hand to help with this.


I also think that I will change my procedure on this which will speed things up.

bops

play more levels on day1 (8 imo)
start later on day 2 (not that it would affect me)
have less small denomination (sp?) chips - the pots even in the early levels were massive - ie bags of 25's and 100's, the dealers were shoveling 'em accross the table, and it also made it hard to guage stack sizes

starting stack and structure was excellent imo (well for day one anyway!)

wd and gl

j10spades

The only thing i heard people giving out about were the antes in relation to the blinds on some levels and tables being shorter than they could have been.

I do agree with them about the levels, but they are kinda standard if you compare them to online for the most part.

The last day starting back had 25 players why not do 3 table's of 9 8 8, i do realise that the more tables playing short handed are going to be playing faster and in effect speed up the eliminations, it did put alot more pressure on shorter stacks to get going.I know you are running within a timeframe so that probably cannot be altered.

Was a very enjoyable weekend, great bit of banter at the table's, super structure, dealer's and staff were top notch!

This has to become a regular tourney on the irish calendar WD JP + Christine

PiperT

Hi JP

Personally would have liked to see one or two more levels day 1.

Apart from that great tournament and great venue. Your crew are always top-class and a credit to you.

Delighted to see so many overseas visitors, although losing a 36k pot 5 hands in (with Aces) to one of the Belgians was a right kick in the nads :-(

Well done mate.
T

BloodyDeath

Cant say i found to much out of order.
It was my first time to play a JP game and i found it good enough.

I liked the start back time after breaks was on time.
(i was late back for nearly all of them) just goes to show what iv come to expect.
I wasnt in my seat for a hand, got there before final player dealt, dealer said my hand was dead. i asked could i look, said no probs, and what ya know, ace ace. but anyway.
So yeah if anything i think more of should run like this 1. mite buck a few of the wannabes up.

So my thanks to Jp Christine and all thier staff for a nice weekend and hope to do it all again soon.

GL

61st r 62nd. there or there abouts

nicnicnic

Great weekends poker

think 30k starting stack was unnecessary in €250 event

more levels needed on day one, at the buy in 30 minutes starting levels are fine suggest 30 minutes first 6, 45 next six, 60 thereafter

would of liked a blue shower curtain in my room

overall great addition to the calendar

SpencerJames

I think everything was great. I think the breaks are too long but its important to realize while we might be dying to get back and play the dealers need a much needed break too.

More levels on Day 1 is my only gripe. That and hitting yet another crossbar!! Also would like my dignity back, think I lost it late sunday night somewhere.

WD JP and Christine.

delasol

first of all sorry for my terrible english.


Many compliments to the staff (especially the beautiful jp buy in girl , so nice and professional. i am used to play in italy, where players speak and chat and scream every hand played and so on, and see a room filled with 320 players playing without verbal excesses and that good education made me realize that the Irish people is truly a great people .... hope to come again as soon as possible.... ciao ciao!

spartaco vivaldi
alexander perrson
baldini marco

westlife

delasol wrote: »

first of all sorry for my terrible english.


Many compliments to the staff (especially the beautiful jp buy in girl , so nice and professional. i am used to play in italy, where players speak and chat and scream every hand played and so on, and see a room filled with 320 players playing without verbal excesses and that good education made me realize that the Irish people is truly a great people .... hope to come again as soon as possible.... ciao ciao!

spartaco vivaldi
alexander perrson
baldini marco

JP, its not very nice you posting under an alias...... jesus, i know you have Christine under paid and do anything to keep it that way but this is scandalous.....AND YOUR NAME!

JP Poker

westlife wrote: »

JP, its not very nice you posting under an alias...... jesus, i know you have Christine under paid and do anything to keep it that way but this is scandalous.....AND YOUR NAME!

lol

Bigfella

Thanks JP and all staff and dealers for a great weekend. Tremendous value for £350 and I will put this on my list of "must attends" for 2010.

Cheers,

jimbling

Overall:
Fantastic event. Very well organized. Congratulations to you and all your staff.

Main Event
Needed more levels on Day 1 for the main event. Even though I was wrecked tired, and happy to head home, I think in general it wasn't long enough. At least 8 levels should have been played.

Would have preferred a 2pm start on Saturday. That extra hour can make all the difference.

Didnt last long into saturday so cant comment on much else there.


Side Event
No need for a 30k starting stack in the side event. 15k would have been plenty if you slowed down the blind levels after about 6. Maybe to 45minutes.


Food
The food on the Friday was pretty dire. Few sambos and prison style soup. I understand that it was 11pm at night all right though.
On Saturday the food was fantastic.

Antes
This was my only major grip for the weekend. In both events I played the antes felt too high in relation to the blinds.
e.g. 600/1200 blinds and Antes 200. That's crazy high.
It felt like the large antes were a way to combat the large starting stack. I would prefer a smaller starting stack.
Again, this was especially true in the side event.

Dealers
On the most part the dealers were excellent. But there was this one girl who was terrible. Such a distraction. Every time she glanced over and gave me that amazing little smile I melted and cared naught about some stupid poker tournament I was playing.
Could you please pass on to Gemma that I love her. If I wasn't so tired I would have made an effort to ask her to marry me

Oh, and then there was the guy who dealt an ace on the river for the muppet that called my all in with ace high on a 9 high flop. Didn't like him very much.

Sirtoyou

I can't agree with the structure or the extra levels on the Friday night complaints.
A lot of players travel long journeys on the Friday so an early night/early start on Saturday is more feasable.
With regard the structures /antes there isn't much point in calling something a miny wsop if the structures and antes aren't mirrored.They were fine and super value for the buy in.
The only gripe I'd have was the main bar was understaffed and the service all weekend slow having said that it's a really nice hotel and a good venue choice.

jimbling

Sirtoyou wrote: »

I can't agree with the structure or the extra levels on the Friday night complaints.
A lot of players travel long journeys on the Friday so an early night/early start on Saturday is more feasable.

As did I. Still think another two levels would have been better.

Sirtoyou wrote: »

With regard the structures /antes there isn't much point in calling something a miny wsop if the structures and antes aren't mirrored.They were fine and super value for the buy in.

Fair point...... but it's not like everything was exactly mirrored. There wasn't 120 minute blind levels for instance.... and for good reason.

Anyway, it's all much of a muchness. These are very minor gripes about an excellent event. JP has asked for feeback on how people felt about it.... that's all we're doing.

The Improver

Great tourney, structure ect, the only real complaint i would have is the hotel and staff, a few of us ordered teas, coffees and sandwiches on day two about 12:10 and game was starting at 1pm, it was 12:55 before we had received our grub, like how long does it take to make a sandwich? also before we ordered the waiter said that he will have to check with the kitchen to see if he can make up sandwiches, also being able to get no grub in the later stages of the night was a joke.
The hotel should be catering for all players when it comes to getting a bit of grub to a certain extent, but to be able to get nothing at all is bad business, they didn't make much of an impression for future references.
But outside of all that great game and wp to JP and all his team.

tylerdurden94

Goes without saying that it was a fantastic event, Jp Poker is a credit to the Irish Poker scene.

What savage value these games were and goes to show by nearly the sell out for the main event.

The staff were excellent over the coarse of it, excellent delaers, once you got the updates sorted they were excellent, one TD mistake was made at my table in the €250 side event (under raise) and within 2-3 minutes you were over clarifying the decision made and apologies over it, i was thinking pretty impressive. With only having played a handful of games with you im still amazed that Christine can remember my name

I actually enjoyed the fact the event wrapped up early on the Friday gave people a chance for a decent rest returning for Day 2 and also to get bodies into the cash games to generate some €€€€€'s

Hotel was very nice but the service was a little slow and when it did arrive sometimes drinks orders were totally wrong. The food on Friday was absolute dire i seen alot of the sandwiches just binned and the soup didnt have enough salt in it :pac: but the carvery on Saturday was much much better. Hotels should be bending over backwards to get a poker event like this into their place .

With having played the Jp Masters and now this i really hope you go from strength to strength and hope 2010 will also be another big success for you.

Danny Maxwell

JP Poker

Hi All,

Thanks for all the feedback. Just a few comments I'd like to make.

Friday
The amount of levels to be played was orginally decided when this was capped at 250 players and at the time I decided at finish up early to give the guys who had travelled a long way an early night.

It also made sense to finish at that time as there would have been a chip after the next level which would have been a nightmare while trying to bag & tag chips at the end of the night. So my only other option would have been to play 2 more levels with a break after the 1st one to chip race. This would have meant the game finished around 3am.

That said next year I will be playing more levels on day 1.


High Antes to Blinds
The structure for all the events mirrored that of the WSOP itself. The only possible change I can think of would be to take nicnicnic suggestion on board with a faster clock at the start (30 Mins) which would result in a faster drop off rate and a higher average stack when the antes are high. But I'm not sure about that one to be honest.


€250 Side Event
20k starting stack? I didn't think this game was dragged on to long tbh. That said with a bigger field it could have taken alot longer. Maybe I'll look at a different NLH event from next years WSOP instead of the main event for this one.

Game Selection
I personally thought there was a good selection of games, maybe I could add a stud event. But I think next year I may make it a 4 day event with the shorthanded event been played at the 1st event.

Food & Drink
The hotel missed a great oppurtunity with their drink & food sales imo. I have already spoken to them about this and it will be something that I will make sure they get right for the next time. This was due to the hotel been understaffed. That said I found the staff who were on to be very helpful and they tryed their best which is half the battle.

The que's for the dinner breaks were bad imo, again hopefully with more staff this can be fixed for next time or maybe I could issue every1 with a food voucher for €x and players can order food when they what.


Once again thanks to everyone who played and keep the feedback coming in as were always looking to improve.

Jp

rivermetimbers

thw TD for the final table of the 150 event could have done more for the final table players when the drunkards kept roaring and shouting around the table. He really should have had them removed, i was playing cash at the time and felt sorry for the 4 remaining players trying to make big plays and calls...

westlife

rivermetimbers wrote: »

thw TD for the final table of the 150 event could have done more for the final table players when the drunkards kept roaring and shouting around the table. He really should have had them removed, i was playing cash at the time and felt sorry for the 4 remaining players trying to make big plays and calls...

The drunkards were friends of two of the final table players and if your refering to John (who was, i think, the TD) he went over twice to the individuals involved and asked them to 'quiet down'. You are going to have this problem when the bar is in the main room and once they dont go way over the top when hotel security has to be called (this did not happen) then there is very little more John can do. If the room had to cleared of people inebriated and rowdy than half the room would have had to go on Sunday! I have seen and heard, recently, a million times worse.

Ollieboy

I only saw two problems with the weekend.

1. Light

It was very bad in both rooms and a major problem to be honest. You can to double check everything from chips to cards. I heard a lot of people commenting on this during the event.

2. Food and Hotel Service in General.

The Food in the hotel was great when you got it but the service and catering at the event was poor, not terrible but could have been a lot better. What annoys me if this had been any other event like a wedding etc, they would have loads of staff.

As for the comments about the structure I thought it was brilliant and lots of fun to play. This structure is design to make you play hands because the way the antes come into play and its a lot of fun. It might be deep stack but its a fast structure and playing it a certain way is required.

Thought you could have got a extra level in on day 1, but I also notice that the players dropping was very slow and I think a extra hour or so of play when people are tired would have help to solve this problem.

In summary a excellant event with a brilliant fishy field, actually one of the best value fields I've played since 2006.

RocketRonnie

westlife wrote: »

The drunkards were friends of two of the final table players and if your refering to John (who was, i think, the TD) he went over twice to the individuals involved and asked them to 'quiet down'. You are going to have this problem when the bar is in the main room and once they dont go way over the top when hotel security has to be called (this did not happen) then there is very little more John can do. If the room had to cleared of people inebriated and rowdy than half the room would have had to go on Sunday! I have seen and heard, recently, a million times worse.

That may be true but they werent friends of the people playin the remaining 2 cash tables which subsequently broke up because of some of the drunkards antics and arrogance....

Anyway back 2 the topic, well done to all the JP Poker team, really looking forward to the Deepstack in Feb..!!

westlife

RocketRonnie wrote: »

That may be true but they werent friends of the people playin the remaining 2 cash tables which subsequently broke up because of some of the drunkards antics and arrogance....

Anyway back 2 the topic, well done to all the JP Poker team, really looking forward to the Deepstack in Feb..!!

agreed, some of the stuff going on was bad.... driving the belgian lads off the table.... If you had 4 Anna's on the 4 cash tables this would not happen!

SpencerJames

I didnt think the drunken banter at the ft's was out of line at all.

Anyway, i def wasnt involved in breaking up any cash games!

just clearing my name!

Sirtoyou

I was in the cash games and the lads had nothing to do with its breaking.The belgian fish won a big pot and did an immediate hit and run.Also one of the higher stakes players joined the game and it made the game uncomfortably high for a lot of the players.

bpricey

i thought the structure and how was run was great, only thing would be the legnth of break 1 hour seemed to drag, but apart from that another great wekkeend from jp and his staff, thanks

sparky115

Sorry about the late feedback:

Side event

I could not get down for the main event on Friday, but travelled from the North just for the side event, as did a few Northerners, and a few from Donegal. The starting stack and structure made it worthwhile, however, if this was changed it probably would not be worth travelling down for.

I like the running antes, but perhaps they did get a little high in the middle stages.
My only other complaint would be that in my opinion this event stayed 10 handed far too long.

Hotel and food

My room was excellent, and reasonably priced, the parking was safe, secure, and free.
The "poker menu" food was a disgrace. I didn't get anything, however the guy beside me got burnt Chicken goujons and raw chips, as did several people around the room, all saying "It was awful"
The carvery food on Saturday was probably the tastiest I have had at any event.
The breakfast was fine.

Overall

Yes, the lighting could have been a little better, especially in the upstairs room, however this was not a MAJOR problem.

I did hear several people asking for S&Gs, and then complaining that they couldn't get one.

As always, JP and his team operated a superb event, and I will definitely be getting down for this one next year. Dont change too much JP!!

Great event - Well done!
.

JP Poker

sparky115 wrote: »

Sorry about the late feedback:

Side event

I could not get down for the main event on Friday, but travelled from the North just for the side event, as did a few Northerners, and a few from Donegal. The starting stack and structure made it worthwhile, however, if this was changed it probably would not be worth travelling down for.

I like the running antes, but perhaps they did get a little high in the middle stages.
My only other complaint would be that in my opinion this event stayed 10 handed far too long.

Hotel and food

My room was excellent, and reasonably priced, the parking was safe, secure, and free.
The "poker menu" food was a disgrace. I didn't get anything, however the guy beside me got burnt Chicken goujons and raw chips, as did several people around the room, all saying "It was awful"
The carvery food on Saturday was probably the tastiest I have had at any event.
The breakfast was fine.

Overall

Yes, the lighting could have been a little better, especially in the upstairs room, however this was not a MAJOR problem.

I did hear several people asking for S&Gs, and then complaining that they couldn't get one.
As always, JP and his team operated a superb event, and I will definitely be getting down for this one next year. Dont change too much JP!!

Great event - Well done!
.

Are you sure about the SnG's? I know the cash desk ran satellites into the €250 & €150's events.

Was it a case of their wasn't enough players to start a SnG or were you told no were not doing them? If it was the latter that should never of happened as this all the bulk of my regular players play.

sparky115

JP,

I have no idea why they couldn't get one. I was playing in the side event and a few guys were congregated round my table talking to a seated player, just saying that they couldn't get a S&G (cash, not satellite).
It may simply be that there weren't enough of them.

Only a minor point, and I am sure if they had pursued their request with Gareth, they could have got a list started.

Anything else coming up JP?

connie147

Hi Jp,
Ive nothing but good things to say about the tournament. All my players enjoyed themselves, and that says it all.

But I have to agree with the other posters with regards to the hotel service. I thought it was poor. Even when the poker room went on dinner break, the downstairs bar was full, yet there was only 2 staff behind the bar.
Also, I played about 4 hours in the downstairs room, and at no stage was there any table service in that time.
This is absolutely no reflection on your poker weekend, but the hotel is losing out big-time in not providing the service. I think keith touched on it earlier, but we went down at 11.45am on the Sat to get a bite to eat before starting play at 1pm. The barman said that they didnt do food until 12.30am. I asked for a few simple sandwiches but he said he couldnt place the order until 12.30pm. (he told me the "chef" would be angry with him if he did!!).
The hotel is lovely, the rooms are great and the price is good. But they should provide the unusual service that a poker festival requires (as in late bars, all-day food menu, late breakfast etc etc).
Im sure you'll be having a chat with the relevant people anyway to get this improved for next time.
I think it is an excellent venue, they will just have to get used to dealing with poker people whos' "clock" is different to most.

We'll be back next year for sure.

Connie

sparky115

connie147 wrote: »

The hotel is lovely, the rooms are great and the price is good. But they should provide the unusual service that a poker festival requires (as in late bars, all-day food menu, late breakfast etc etc).

I think it is an excellent venue, they will just have to get used to dealing with poker people whos' "clock" is different to most.


Connie

Good point Connie. The very same thing crossed my mind on Sunday morning, AND at the IPO.... Would it be unreasonable to ask the hotel to offer LATE BREAKFAST, especially events where poker players take most of the rooms, and are playing cash games until 5 or 6am, such as this event, IPO, Irish open etc etc.

What ya think JP?
.

rivermetimbers

Sirtoyou wrote: »

I was in the cash games and the lads had nothing to do with its breaking.The belgian fish won a big pot and did an immediate hit and run.Also one of the higher stakes players joined the game and it made the game uncomfortably high for a lot of the players.

fair enough they did not break the omaha table but one guy directly broke the 2 remaining NLHE tables with his BS.anyway, well done again JP on a great weekend

tm2204

connie147 wrote: »

Hi Jp,
Ive nothing but good things to say about the tournament. All my players enjoyed themselves, and that says it all.

But I have to agree with the other posters with regards to the hotel service. I thought it was poor. Even when the poker room went on dinner break, the downstairs bar was full, yet there was only 2 staff behind the bar.
Also, I played about 4 hours in the downstairs room, and at no stage was there any table service in that time.
This is absolutely no reflection on your poker weekend, but the hotel is losing out big-time in not providing the service. I think keith touched on it earlier, but we went down at 11.45am on the Sat to get a bite to eat before starting play at 1pm. The barman said that they didnt do food until 12.30am. I asked for a few simple sandwiches but he said he couldnt place the order until 12.30pm. (he told me the "chef" would be angry with him if he did!!).
The hotel is lovely, the rooms are great and the price is good. But they should provide the unusual service that a poker festival requires (as in late bars, all-day food menu, late breakfast etc etc).
Im sure you'll be having a chat with the relevant people anyway to get this improved for next time.
I think it is an excellent venue, they will just have to get used to dealing with poker people whos' "clock" is different to most.

We'll be back next year for sure.

Connie

Was not able to play this but I think that any hotel getting this number of bodies through their door should be doing ANYTHING required by these customers to provide a high quality level of service.

In these times any hotel manager worth his salt should have been rubbing his hands and countng the euro's and should have had adequate staff and flexible facilities to cater for this huge volume of business.

No excuses, simple as. No reflection on JP & crew whatsoever as this was out of his control.

Sirtoyou

To be fair to the Maldron its probably their first venture into such an event and a few bits of special tweaking toward poker players needs is all it needs.

The Regency completely fcuked up the Ipo and they knew what to expect after hosting it the year before.WHAT A KIP I'd sooner drive up and down to Cork each night than have to ever stay there again.

JP Poker

connie147 wrote: »

Hi Jp,
Ive nothing but good things to say about the tournament. All my players enjoyed themselves, and that says it all.

But I have to agree with the other posters with regards to the hotel service. I thought it was poor. Even when the poker room went on dinner break, the downstairs bar was full, yet there was only 2 staff behind the bar.
Also, I played about 4 hours in the downstairs room, and at no stage was there any table service in that time.
This is absolutely no reflection on your poker weekend, but the hotel is losing out big-time in not providing the service. I think keith touched on it earlier, but we went down at 11.45am on the Sat to get a bite to eat before starting play at 1pm. The barman said that they didnt do food until 12.30am. I asked for a few simple sandwiches but he said he couldnt place the order until 12.30pm. (he told me the "chef" would be angry with him if he did!!).
The hotel is lovely, the rooms are great and the price is good. But they should provide the unusual service that a poker festival requires (as in late bars, all-day food menu, late breakfast etc etc).
Im sure you'll be having a chat with the relevant people anyway to get this improved for next time.
I think it is an excellent venue, they will just have to get used to dealing with poker people whos' "clock" is different to most.

We'll be back next year for sure.

Connie

Thanks Connie,

Very good post. I will be having a meeting with the hotel next week and will print off a copy of this thread to let them know what is expected.

To be fair to the hotel I don't think they believed me when I was telling them what sort of numbers I was expecting, and as a result were short staffed, and to be fair the staff that were on bent over backwards to accomodate the best that they could.

All that said the problems from this event need to be address before the next one.

madog

Hi Jp

Had a super weekend but the antes were very heavy in d later stages of the game ,got very crapshot near the end of day 2 but very well run tourney,will b back next year