I'm Walking in the rain

Paul91

So there I was last night, big yellow high viz jacket, waterproof/snow boarder trousers, waterproof boots, goretex gloves and being from yorkshire, me flat cap, two dogs with me, waiting to cross the main road where I live (village in Co Cork) and along came a van, straight through a puddle in the road at high speed, soaking the dogs (even more) the spray came about 5 feet into the air, then two seconds later and a car did the exact same thing - didn't bother me too much as i had my dog walking rain gear on, but the poor dogs where wet enough - I know if this happened in the UK they could get points on the licence for driving without due care and attention - is it the same here?

star-pants

Moved from API

GigaByte

Points for driving through a puddle! LOL Not surprised you left the uk, you can't get points for driving through a puddle here.

Sounds like you where prepared for the weather, get rain coats for your dogs

mymo

Welcome to Ireland, This happens to me all the time:rolleyes:
Although I'm not as well kitted out as you:D
Not sure about the points, but I know one day it happened a guarda car was behind the offending vehicle and pulled them over for a chat, as I passed the guy got out and apologized(I'm sure with a prompt from said guard), in the pouring rain in just his shirt no coat. By the time he got back in the car he was soaked.:D

R.O.R

Paul91 wrote: »

being from yorkshire, me flat cap, two dogs with me,

Whippets by any chance?

Paul91

R.O.R wrote: »

Whippets by any chance?

nope German Shepherd and Box/Lab - whippets too fast for me

Paul91

GigaByte wrote: »

Points for driving through a puddle! LOL Not surprised you left the uk, you can't get points for driving through a puddle here.

Sounds like you where prepared for the weather, get rain coats for your dogs

no, points for driving without due care and attention,

http://www.cmsolicitors.co.uk/road-traffic/driving-without-due-care.html

Inconsiderate driving is another charge which relates to careless driving. Inconsiderate driving is road traffic behaviour which can be proven to have inconvenienced other drivers. Tailgating, flashing your headlights or beeping your horn in order to intimidate another driver into speeding up or changing lanes, speeding up through puddles and splashing pedestrians and failure to move out of the overtaking lane are all examples of inconsiderate driving or driving without reasonable consideration for other road-users.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/splashing_a_bus_stop.shtml

Charges of careless or even dangerous driving could be brought for this type of offence, the force said.

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=447325&page=7

Driving drunk means that you're driving without full control of your car. Driving at speed through a puddle means the same thing. It's very dangerous. She could have aquaplaned very easily, or it was very possible that there would have been a pothole concealed in the puddle. The force of the water could have wrenched the wheel from her grasp, and sent the fast-moving vehicle anywhere.

http://community.babycentre.co.uk/post/a4674805/this_driver_filming_herself_splashing_kids_with_a_massive_puddle

it is illegal, the offence is driving without due care and attention. you can loose you license

http://www.nwipp-newspapers.com/FH/free/320676262412946.php

The court heard that on 6th May this year, the defendant was driving a black Honda Civic car along the Irvinestown road when the car struck a puddle and the defendant lost control of the vehicle.
The car left the road and hit a garden fence and hedge before spinning and ending up on the other side of the road.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/EndorsementsAndDisqualifications/DG_10022425

CodeOffencePenalty pointsCD10Driving without due care and attention3-9CD20Driving without reasonable consideration for other road users3-9CD30Driving without due care and attention or without reasonable consideration for other road users3-9

Atomic Pineapple

I believe it does fall under driving without due care and consideration here so the driver could be done for it. I'm not sure that points would be applied though and of course without evidence it would just be a warning at the most anyway

Kenny_D

I think the hi-vis jacket just made you a big target :P

Paul91

GStormcrow wrote: »

I think the hi-vis jacket just made you a big target :P

maybe that or the fact i'm 6' 4" and 21 stone - can't really miss me, don't worry i took note of the van and car - FYI I posted this in the animal forum as i was wondering if any of the folks over there found the same thing but the mod's shifted the post to here - so apologise for disturbing you petorl heads

GigaByte

Paul91 wrote: »

no, points for driving without due care and attention,

http://www.cmsolicitors.co.uk/road-traffic/driving-without-due-care.html

Yes almost any kind of driving could be charged with driving without due care and attention, even if you avoided the puddle you could be charge with driving without due care and attention for crashing into the car coming the other way.

Big puddles often can completely cover a road, you will not get done for driving through it :pac:

Anan1

GigaByte wrote: »

Yes almost any kind of driving could be charged with driving without due care and attention, even if you avoided the puddle you could be charge with driving without due care and attention for crashing into the car coming the other way.

Big puddles often can completely cover a road, you will not get done for driving through it :pac:

There is always the option to slow down. As has been said before, you never know what's under the surface of the water.

GigaByte

Anan1 wrote: »

There is always the option to slow down.

It's obvious the driver took option 2.

antomorro-sei

LOL, I soaked some woman yesterday coming back by The Ashleaf Shopping Centre.

Bandara

I was in a taxi late at night going past Grand Canal Quay and taximan soaked two girls by flying thru a big puddle.

cop car going the other way seen it, turned around and pulled him and hit him with fine and points.

He kinda stopped laughing after that, I had to listen to the "why don't they catch the real criminals" all the way home

antodeco

Hammertime wrote: »

I was in a taxi late at night going past Grand Canal Quay and taximan soaked two girls by flying thru a big puddle.

cop car going the other way seen it, turned around and pulled him and hit him with fine and points.

He kinda stopped laughing after that, I had to listen to the "why don't they catch the real criminals" all the way home

Wet girls by the canal? Giggidy

ejvilla

I think I did this to someone last night... in the village I live in.... in Cork!

But it wasn't on the main road, the pedestrian wasn't in high viz clothing and I didn't see any dogs. Anyway, I felt terrible after and, although it wasn't at all intentional (oncoming driver failed to yield, pushing me to the side of the road and had his full lights on so it was hard to see the pedestrian or the puddle), I'd like to apologise to the person I soaked.

I've had it happen to me before and it sucks ( especially when you have to get on a bus right after and sit there sopping wet & freezing cold for a couple of hours :mad: ).

PM me the town name and we'll make sure I wasn't the one who soaked you!

Paul91 wrote: »

So there I was last night, big yellow high viz jacket, waterproof/snow boarder trousers, waterproof boots, goretex gloves and being from yorkshire, me flat cap, two dogs with me, waiting to cross the main road where I live (village in Co Cork) and along came a van, straight through a puddle in the road at high speed, soaking the dogs (even more) the spray came about 5 feet into the air, then two seconds later and a car did the exact same thing - didn't bother me too much as i had my dog walking rain gear on, but the poor dogs where wet enough - I know if this happened in the UK they could get points on the licence for driving without due care and attention - is it the same here?

GigaByte

ejvilla wrote: »

I think I did this to someone last night... in the village I live in.... in Cork!

Be honest it was you, even if it wasn't you someone got hit by you. He may have taken your number down and right now every cop is out there looking for you! Get your ass down to the police station and hand yourself in, be prepared for the worst!

Sconsey

I remember when I was a young lad getting my first few driving lessons, back when I know it all , the instructor told me to slow as I was approaching a puddle as there were pedestrians nearby...I said something like "That's sound of you, I would have soaked them"...he gave a long speil about how it was my responsability, could fail the test for it, etc, etc.

In fairness the lesson stuck, it's not just common decency you could get done for it.

Seth Brundle

Hammertime wrote: »

I was in a taxi late at night going past Grand Canal Quay and taximan soaked two girls by flying thru a big puddle.

cop car going the other way seen it, turned around and pulled him and hit him with fine and points.

He kinda stopped laughing after that, I had to listen to the "why don't they catch the real criminals" all the way home

Was the meter running whilst the garda was giving the taxi driver his points?

Rovi

In fairness folks, we all give out about pedestrians who go out in stealth/ninja mode, wearing the darkest clothing they possess, while we benighted motorists appear to get all the blame if one of them gets hit whilst walking against the direction of traffic on a dark country road in the rain.
In this instance though, the OP was wearing a high-vis jacket (which I'm presuming OP, also had reflective stripes on it?), and was in "the village", so I'm also surmising there was probably street lighting too.

In my opinion, neither the van driver nor the following motorist had any excuse for drowning the OP and his dogs.

Again in my opinion, had a Garda been there to witness the incident, both would have at least merited a good bollocking, and maybe even a charge of careless driving.

Paul91

Rovi wrote: »

In fairness folks, we all give out about pedestrians who go out is stealth/ninja mode, wearing the darkest clothing they possess, while we benighted motorists appear to get all the blame if one of them gets hit whilst walking against the direction of traffic on a dark country road in the rain.
In this instance though, the OP was wearing a high-vis jacket (which I'm presuming OP, also had reflective stripes on it?), and was in "the village", so I'm also surmising there was probably street lighting too.

In my opinion, neither the van driver nor the following motorist had any excuse for drowning the OP and his dogs.

Again in my opinion, had a Garda been there to witness the incident, both would have at least merited a good bollocking, and maybe even a charge of careless driving.

yup high viz markings, the type you get on building sites, made by "Mascot" bought especially because i do walk down unlit streets as i have no option being in the sticks, but the place i was stood was well lit, street lights, and i was back from the edge of the path as far as i could be.

No worries, i'm a big believer in Karma.

And to all of those whom find it funny, that's grand, just remember it's folk like me whom walk down those dark roads where the branch's and debris have fallen in the high winds and rain, maybe next time i won't move them out the road, but that won't matter to those who do drive with due care and attention, only the others whom will plough into them.

GigaByte

Paul91 wrote: »

And to all of those whom find it funny, that's grand, just remember it's folk like me whom walk down those dark roads where the branch's and debris have fallen in the high winds and rain, maybe next time i won't move them out the road, but that won't matter to those who do drive with due care and attention, only the others whom will plough into them.

Jaysus get over it! :rolleyes:

Paul91

ejvilla wrote: »

PM me the town name and we'll make sure I wasn't the one who soaked you!

i was in Whitegate, if it was you in the car at least i think you slowed down after, with guilt i assume (like i say was in full wet gear was more worried about the dogs as they could have had any kind of debris thrown at them from the puddle), the van didn't care - but he had a name on the side so we'll wait and see

Paul91

GigaByte wrote: »

Jaysus get over it! :rolleyes:

if you have nothing constructive to add you don't need to reply

if you find the thread borring you have no need to read

GigaByte

Paul91 wrote: »

if you have nothing constructive to add you don't need to reply

if you find the thread borring you have no need to read

I find it interesting, I just found your grumpiness in your last post childish

But I did manage to find this on youtube and with your help we can get the drivers all put behind bars where they belong! Are you with me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxJQnH7Whi8&feature=related

EDIT: It's in the UK too..

ejvilla

I was in Midleton, so I'm not your man. Still feel bad about it so I'll say sorry to you & your dogs in their place for now! I'll be extra vigilant going forward

Paul91 wrote: »

i was in Whitegate, if it was you in the car at least i think you slowed down after, with guilt i assume (like i say was in full wet gear was more worried about the dogs as they could have had any kind of debris thrown at them from the puddle), the van didn't care - but he had a name on the side so we'll wait and see

Paul91

ejvilla wrote: »

I was in Midleton, so I'm not your man. Still feel bad about it so I'll say sorry to you & your dogs in their place for now! I'll be extra vigilant going forward

thanks a million - feel all better now

Paul91

GigaByte wrote: »

I find it interesting, I just found your grumpiness in your last post childish

But I did manage to find this on youtube and with your help we can get the drivers all put behind bars where they belong! Are you with me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxJQnH7Whi8&feature=related

EDIT: It's in the UK too..

can't see the youtube, blocked in work i'm afraid, sorry for being grumpy and childish, but being a male over thirty the two things are inherent as i say this was meant for the animal area to see what other fellow dog walkers had come across in the world of the car, my other favourite one is the "i don't need to dip my headlights for pedestrians" goes along well with "i don't need to indicate for pedestrians"

GigaByte

Paul91 wrote: »

can't see the youtube, blocked in work i'm afraid, sorry for being grumpy and childish, but being a male over thirty the two things are inherent as i say this was meant for the animal area to see what other fellow dog walkers had come across in the world of the car, my other favourite one is the "i don't need to dip my headlights for pedestrians" goes along well with "i don't need to indicate for pedestrians"

No worries, wait till you hit 35, I'm always grumpy!

Paul91

GigaByte wrote: »

No worries, wait till you hit 35, I'm always grumpy!

ye that happened last August i'm afraid, looking forward to that 40 now :rolleyes:

biko

Paul91

Magnus wrote: »

bloody audi drivers - ahem

mikemac

Ah I remember working as a barman in college.
For graduation/debs we could not serve spirits, hey the school sets the rules not me
Wow, the abuse I took that night, called every name going.
And sure how were they going to enjoy their night without shots??

Took abuse before the meal, during the meal and for the rest of the night.

So when I drove home after cleaning up the ballroom (and vomit in the toilets ) what I suprise to see two lovely couples who passed comments when I served them food and embarressed me in front of a table of ten.

I sure hope the deposits on the tuxedo and the gown weren't excessive and they sure lost them after they got soaked!

I've never splashed anyone else, honest

GigaByte

Hammertime wrote: »

I was in a taxi late at night going past Grand Canal Quay and taximan soaked two girls by flying thru a big puddle.

cop car going the other way seen it, turned around and pulled him and hit him with fine and points.

He kinda stopped laughing after that, I had to listen to the "why don't they catch the real criminals" all the way home

On a side note I'm interested to know how much he was fined and what the points were actually for. Whats the on the spot fine for driving through puddles?


EDIT: Up to £2,500 in the uk
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article3080454.ece

Paul91

GigaByte wrote: »

On a side note I'm interested to know how much he was fined and what the points were actually for. Whats the on the spot fine for driving through puddles?

"driving without due care and attention" at a guess

Michael 09

There was a case for this recently in the UK, a woman did it on purpose while video-ing it and posted it on youtube. She handed herself in when the police said they were looking for her.

It sucks getting splashed but if it didnt happen then funny pictures like the one above would never exist... every cloud etc

Mossy Monk

Magnus wrote: »

Audi driver too. What are the odds on that.

Mr Benevolent

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Audi driver too. What are the odds on that.

About 9/12

PrimalTherapy

Years ago was cycling through a flood, was 3/4 way through and a car coming otherway drove quite quickly into the flood and drenched me bike and all.:eek: Think it was an elederly person or someone who did not realise the implications from their own point of view even

Anan1

PrimalTherapy wrote: »

Years ago was cycling through a flood, was 3/4 way through and a car coming otherway drove quite quickly into the flood and drenched me bike and all.:eek: Think it was an elederly person or someone who did not realise the implications from their own point of view even

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