Uganda MP urges death for gay sex

The_Minister

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8308912.stm
A friend had a status update on this.

A Ugandan MP has proposed creating an offence of "aggravated homosexuality" to be punishable by death.

Ruling party MP David Bahati wants the death penalty for those having gay sex with disabled people, under-18s or when the accused is HIV-positive.

Homosexual acts are already illegal, but the Anti-Homosexuality Bill proposes new offences and urges the toughening of existing penalties.

Earlier versions of the bill were widely criticised by rights groups.

The BBC's Joshua Mmali, in the capital Kampala, says the bill has a good chance of being passed as senior figures from the ruling National Resistance Movement are likely to back it.

President Yoweri Museveni has made several speeches outlining his own anti-gay views.

Gays 'persecuted'

There are estimated to be 500,000 gay people in Uganda, from a population of about 31 million, according to gay rights groups.

Gay activists have long alleged persecution and existing laws already allow large fines and life imprisonment for some homosexual acts.

Mr Bahati's bill proposes widening the definition of homosexual acts and wants to fine or imprison anyone found to be promoting homosexuality.

The bill states that its provisions are intended to "protect the traditional family by prohibiting any form of sexual relations between persons of the same sex".

The International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission has urged the bill to be dismissed.

They say it violates several international agreements Uganda has signed up to - as well as contradicting the country's own constitution.

But John Otekat Emile, an independent MP, said he believed the bill had a "99% chance" of being passed.

"Members of parliament are overwhelmingly supporting this bill because homosexuality is illegal in Uganda, and we have that clearly in the penal code," he told the BBC.

Emmanuel Dombo, an MP with the ruling party, agreed and said it was an important issue to investigate.

"What we need to look at are the sentences - what kind of sentences or punishment should be prescribed for sexual offenders in this respect - that is the big question," he said.

But our correspondent says the authorities already find it difficult to prove cases under current laws because evidence is difficult to obtain.

Some people who have openly declared that they are gay have not been prosecuted because declaring sexual orientation is not a crime, our correspondent adds.

When I read the title, I thought it meant that all gays would be executed, not just those who engaged in sex with the disabled, under 18s or were HIV positive.
Still bad though.
Boo death penalty.

liah

"aggravated homosexuality," interesting choice of words.

Does that mean they only turn gay when angry? Like a big gay Hulk?

The_Minister

liah wrote: »

"aggravated homosexuality," interesting choice of words.

Does that mean they only turn gay when angry? Like a big gay hulk?

It means that they lisp on the richter scale.

donmeister

OP you misread the article 'Death' is the nickname of a gay prostitute in Uganda. The MP wants to get some off him.

Morlar

Wow another day, another gay thread ! The title is a tad misleading btw.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Iran already did it afaik.

The_Minister

Morlar wrote: »

Wow another day, another gay thread ! The title is a tad misleading btw.

Blame my FB friend.
Title is article title.

Morlar

Thread should be titled

'the death penalty for sodomising children, the disabled or giving people aids'

rizzee

Rizzees fact of the day - 1 in 62 people in Uganda are gay. FACT

Ontil next time...

Morlar

rizzee wrote: »

Rizzees fact of the day - 1 in 62 people in Uganda are gay. FACT

Ontil next time...

& how many of them sodomise the disabled, the underaged or while knowingly infected with aids ?

Hardly the same thing as the thread title.

rizzee

Morlar wrote: »

& how many of them sodomise the disabled, the underaged or while knowingly infected with aids ?

Hardly the same thing as the thread title.

Ah sure, don't mind that

Borneo Fnctn

I was a victim of an aggravated homosexual. It was horrible. He was wearing all leather with the arse cut out of his trousers. He kept hooting and shouting "whoo". He wouldn't stop dancing at me.

starbelgrade

jackpalance wrote: »

I was a victim of an aggravated homosexual. It was horrible. He was wearing all leather with the arse cut out of his trousers. He kept hooting and shouting "whoo". He wouldn't stop dancing at me.

You watch too much South Park.

smk89

liah wrote: »

"aggravated homosexuality," interesting choice of words.

Does that mean they only turn gay when angry? Like a big gay Hulk?

The big gay hulk he doesn't go green he goes pink and fabulous!!!

stovelid

Much phonetic fun could be had if only his surname was Baati instead...

Nodin

smk89 wrote: »

The big gay hulk he doesn't go green he goes pink and fabulous!!!

The shirt still goes, but the strides stretch to fit....

Dudess

Lou Ferrigno, the guy who played the hulk, seems like quite the big ole queen.

The_Minister

Death Penalty dropped, life in jail instead

By Fred Ojambo

Dec. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Uganda will drop the death penalty and life imprisonment for gays in a refined version of an anti- gay bill expected to be ready for presentation to Parliament in two weeks, James Nsaba Buturo, the minister of ethics and integrity, said.

The draft bill, which is under consideration by a parliamentary committee, will drop the two punishments to attract the support of religious leaders who are opposed to these penalties, Buturo said today in a phone interview from the capital, Kampala.

Ugandan lawmaker David Bahati presented a private member’s bill on Oct. 14 which sought the death penalty and life imprisonment for gay people in the country. The Ugandan government supports the bill because homosexuality and lesbianism are “repugnant to the Ugandan culture,” Buturo said. Still, it favors a more refined set of punishments, he said.

In addition to formulating punishments for the gay people, the bill will also promote counseling to help “attract errant people to acceptable sexual orientation,” said Buturo.

The proposed legislation has attracted criticism from gay rights activists, both locally and internationally, who argue that the law would promote discrimination and hatred toward the gay community.

Also...

The Saint

Wow...enlightened. :rolleyes:

AnonoBoy

Well I for one have crossed Uganda off my sex tourism destination list.

Mark200

Pretty ridiculous that are countries still like that

liah wrote: »

"aggravated homosexuality," interesting choice of words.

Does that mean they only turn gay when angry? Like a big gay Hulk?

That's not what aggravated means, fyi

PirateShampoo

Its a shame this country doesnt have the same laws when it comes to our little problem.

Dave!

Great interview by Rachel Maddow with a guy who wrote a book that inspired this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Pg22ow1e8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7SVBd8KcaE

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Morlar wrote: »

Thread should be titled

'the death penalty for sodomising children, the disabled or giving people aids'

but only for the gays...

Morlar

Kassidy Thankful Storyteller wrote: »

but only for the gays...

You have to start somewhere.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Morlar wrote: »

You have to start somewhere.

:rolleyes:

The_Minister wrote: »

Death Penalty dropped, life in jail instead

Also...

Woah, that's fair bad even by international standards I'd say, wonder if it'll be further toned down?

DubArk

Kassidy Thankful Storyteller wrote: »

but only for the gays...

Next the Blacks...... Oops it's Uganda!!

Dont you hate it when biggots get it so wrong

AnonoBoy

Dave! wrote: »

Great interview by Rachel Maddow with a guy who wrote a book that inspired this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Pg22ow1e8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7SVBd8KcaE

That guy is so gay.

df1985

smk89 wrote: »

The big gay hulk he doesn't go green he goes pink and fabulous!!!

and he prefers tight ripped shirts anyway!

The_Minister

AnonoBoy wrote: »

That guy is so gay.

...but he couldn't tell anybody.

Mr Benevolent

What the... OP you posted a controversial media topic and then seemed aggrieved that the call for it was for a fairly good reason? Supertroll tbh.

eVeNtInE

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me-skywalker

Because Uganda are the stalwarts and fore-runners in civil bills and human rights!

The_Minister

Confab wrote: »

What the... OP you posted a controversial media topic and then seemed aggrieved that the call for it was for a fairly good reason? Supertroll tbh.

I don't understand what you're saying.

hooradiation

Confab wrote: »

What the... OP you posted a controversial media topic and then seemed aggrieved that the call for it was for a fairly good reason? Supertroll tbh.

except it's not.

Mr Benevolent

hooradiation wrote: »

except it's not.

You mean that raping disabled people in Ireland is ok?

Morlar

Confab wrote: »

You mean that raping disabled people in Ireland is ok?

or children - or intentionally infecting people with aids. Have to agree this whole thread is a joke.

sock puppet

Morlar wrote: »

or children - or intentionally infecting people with aids. Have to agree this whole thread is a joke.

How? Are heterosexuals who have HIV criminalised in this bill? Why not?

Do you also think it's right to put someone in prison just because they know a gay person? You've just picked one part out of the whole bill and are using it to defend the rest of the crap contained in it.

hooradiation

Confab wrote: »

You mean that raping disabled people in Ireland is ok?

Morlar wrote: »

or children - or intentionally infecting people with aids. Have to agree this whole thread is a joke.

Which should be illegal REGARDLESS of your sexual orientation.
But good job on continuing the stereotype that gay people are complete deviants who need to be specially legislated for. Because none of the above could ever be committed by a straight person.

Reflector

eh is someone moderating this thread as I find some posts extremely offensive.

Obviously this is a messed up law in a corrupt regime. I just feel sorry for all the gay people who live in Uganda who are born criminals before they even know it.

Shame on you Uganda and the Irish goverment should let the Ugandan goverment know how distasteful this type of legislation is.

derfderf

This would never have happened on Forrest Whitakers watch.

me-skywalker

Reflector wrote: »

Shame on you Uganda and the Irish goverment should let the Ugandan goverment know how distasteful this type of legislation is.

why the hell should the Irish Government say something. We have enough on our plate to worry about some neo-facisit neanderthal laws being passed in a country a million miles removed from ours. This would only heighten the issue in our own country which is being delicately handled at the moment and will be brought up in its own time come elections.

Porkpie

4 words from the thread title: "Uganda MP gay urges"