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I did not get the movie Moon

  • 07-11-2009 10:40am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭


    Can someone please explain the twist to me, I just didnt get it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Yup.
    Sam was never going home. The moonbase was under perpetual watch by Sam (and his clones). Every time Sam died, a new clone was revived to take over. The trouble started when Gerty thought that Sam had crashed and died out in the moon buggy, and proceeded to revive one of the clones early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,066 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Sam Rockwells character once did a 3 year stint on the moon and after that they cloned him every 3 years and made him think he was the real deal. The clone finds all this out when he manages to call home and find out that his wife is long dead and his daughter is all grown up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Vampireskiss


    Was the original Sam long Dead so , and the 2 sams in the movie both clones?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    Both Sams in the film were clones. We don't know about the original. He could be dead, or he could have gone home to his family after his 3 year stint. We know from the age of his daughter that there weren't that many clones before the two we see because his daughter is still alive. So original Sam could still be around, though his wife is dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Was the original Sam long Dead so , and the 2 sams in the movie both clones?

    No I think in the video calls when he's talking to his daughter she calls for her dad. Which would be the real Sam. Both Sam's in the film were clones.

    How did you miss all this :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Vampireskiss


    Ciaran500 wrote: »
    No I think in the video calls when he's talking to his daughter she calls for her dad. Which would be the real Sam. Both Sam's in the film were clones.

    How did you miss all this :confused:

    is it definitely The real sam or could it be a step father?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Erm, yeah... That was definitely the real Sam at home on earth, with his grown up daughter.

    Great movie btw, was just expecting a 2001 clone, but was pleasantly surprised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    is it definitely The real sam or could it be a step father?
    This is one of those situations where you have to ask "why did they show that, then?" Sure it could have been a stepdad, in real life, but in the context of the movie, the writer/director took the trouble to put that bit in. Ergo, we viewers are supposed to see it. It could be a "red herring", but if it is, it's not wrapped up by the end, which has me thinking "sequel"! ;)

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    Its been a good few months since I saw it but the questions I was left thinking about were;

    1) Why do Sam's fail. Is it a cloning imperfection or are they designed specifically to live for 3 years and then die?

    2) Had the second Sam, not discovered the first Sam, were the rescue team going to tell him his contract was over and put him in to the incinerator and tell him his contract was over and only basically use this Sam for a month? Why didn't they just reawaken a new Sam with zero memory and tell him he was on Day 1 of his contract? Do the rescue team get sent up to wipe clear any previous presence of a Sam in the building so that a Sam clone thinks that the whole place is new?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,014 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    D-Generate wrote: »
    Its been a good few months since I saw it but the questions I was left thinking about were;

    1) Why do Sam's fail. Is it a cloning imperfection or are they designed specifically to live for 3 years and then die?

    2) Had the second Sam, not discovered the first Sam, were the rescue team going to tell him his contract was over and put him in to the incinerator and tell him his contract was over and only basically use this Sam for a month? Why didn't they just reawaken a new Sam with zero memory and tell him he was on Day 1 of his contract? Do the rescue team get sent up to wipe clear any previous presence of a Sam in the building so that a Sam clone thinks that the whole place is new?

    1) I don't think they address this specifically. Both theories make sense. They could have built in obsolescence (so that the clone doesn't become disillusioned, and always has the optimistic dream of returning home after the contract runs out i.e. to prevent "space madness" ;). But yes, could just be imperfect clones. I've seen it twice, and don't remember them mentioning specifics anyway.

    2) The team arrive expecting a newly awakened clone (which they find - the 3rd Sam the other two woke up). They are there, in theory, to fix the harvester and buggy. The second Sam doesn't know he is due to go home (blank slate), and the team would likely have left him alone. Had the first one had no accident, he would simply have been incinerated on the day he was due to return home, I'm guessing. The whole purpose of the rescue team was simply to fix the mess caused by first Sam's accident. I don't think Gerty contacted mission control to inform them of the two Sam problem, only was talking to them before Sam one was rescued. EDIT: actually just read there that Sam two is told he is going home, which confuses things a bit more! Not really quite sure then!

    Or something. Clones are confusing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    D-Generate wrote: »
    1) Why do Sam's fail. Is it a cloning imperfection or are they designed specifically to live for 3 years and then die?
    I assumed it was radiation sickness. We see some of the Sams hair falling out and other radiation-type symptoms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭transylman


    The real Sam went back to earth. You hear him during the call to the daughter. They probably didn't show him because it would have cost too much for the makeup.

    The plan was for the rescue team to just shoot the first sam and repair the rover and harvester, without the second one noticing.

    The clones had a three year life span because that was the duration of each mission, which the real sam probably did originally. According to their memory when they woke they had only recently arrived on the station. Just when they were planning to go home they would start to die. They all got sick at the same time so it was probably intentional.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭jonny72


    His reaction to the 'fathers' voice on the video phone indicates that the girls father is himself - Sam. Also he appears to have radiation sickness, hence the tooth falling out, etc.


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