Im unsure what to do

turbogirl09

Hi there

just joined. I have a bit of a problem. A person i work with recently left now there was only every 2 of us working. I was next to take her job as i said above there were only 2 of us working. Now i know for law reasons they had to advertise the job, i had my interview for the job tonight but i have have feeling i wont get it. Ive worked in this job for 2 years. I deserve to get the positition, It doesnt feel right having a complete stranger come in and tell me what to do after 2 years of me working there.
Now i wont be happy knowing she is over me and i will probally leave. I know its the easy way out but i dont want to have a job that makes me unhappy.

Im gettin marred in a year and a half ive just moved into a new house and im really stuck on what to do.
Was going to apply for the dole but can i get a job after being on the dole?

Now i dont no yet if i have the job but i saw someone who applied an she is much older than me and has a lot of experience.

What should i do

uberwolf

a few things.

You believe someone who is more experienced than you may get the job. That seems reasonable enough on the face of it.

Separately you should look for another job, before leaving your current one. There are a lot of unemployed people out there, and having a job makes it easier to get another one.

Also, if you voluntarily leave your job, then you have to wait a reasonably substantial period before you are entitled to assistance.

Chinafoot

I don't mean to be in anyway disrespectful but on the point of that you "deserve" the job. You have 2 years in this position, thats really not that long. If someone more qualified and experienced than you applies then it is them that deserves to get this job.

Wait to see what happens before making any rash decision. It would make a lot more sense for you to continue in your job if you dont get this promotion and gain more experience.

Wishbone Ash

turbogirl09 wrote: »

I deserve to get the positition

In your opinion? Perhaps your employer feels differently!

turbogirl wrote:

It doesnt feel right having a complete stranger come in and tell me what to do after 2 years of me working there.

It perfectly normal for this to happen. You are only 2 years there. It happens to people who are 20 years in a position. Even 'acting' positions are usually only given to the most senior and suitable person.

turbogirl wrote:

Now i wont be happy knowing she is over me and i will probally leave. What should i do

That's quite an immature attitude and I'm afraid it won't get you too far. It may be the reason your employer is looking elsewhere. Instead of wallowing in misery, use the time as an opportunity to show you employer that you may be a better choice in the future.

turbogirl09

Well i have to say you cant judge me as i havent mentioned what type of job it is nor what it is involved! I would prefer not to mention. I have alot of experience, I studied for it in college, i worked for 2 years at the same thing before applying for this job. While the girl i worked with was on holidays or sick i filled in and was in charge.
The girl who also applied is alot older than me which made me think she might get the job.
Now you cant really go off and say its an immature decision bcoz until you experince it for yourself you cant judge.
I am looking for advice not Critizism.
Also my employer stated "if it was my choice you would get the job" they are the exact words that came out of her mouth, but for law reasons they have to advertise. now she was not the only person interviewing.
Now i will say this again beocause i know myself I deserve the job. i put alot into the service.! it wouldnt be what it is today if it wasnt for me and my co worker!!

fl4pj4ck

your employer is the one that makes decisions who gets the position and who doesnt. he may as well give it to some graduate with no experience at all if he/she wishes and there is nothing you (or anyone else like Citizen Inf) can do about it.

it seems pretty obvious that for some reason your employer thinks the other person is better for this role.

the only question is if you will understand it and act as a grown up

Chinafoot

turbogirl09 wrote: »

Well i have to say you cant judge me as i havent mentioned what type of job it is nor what it is involved! I would prefer not to mention. I have alot of experience, I studied for it in college, i worked for 2 years at the same thing before applying for this job. While the girl i worked with was on holidays or sick i filled in and was in charge.
The girl who also applied is alot older than me which made me think she might get the job.
Now you cant really go off and say its an immature decision bcoz until you experince it for yourself you cant judge.
I am looking for advice not Critizism.
Also my employer stated "if it was my choice you would get the job" they are the exact words that came out of her mouth, but for law reasons they have to advertise. now she was not the only person interviewing.
Now i will say this again beocause i know myself I deserve the job. i put alot into the service.! it wouldnt be what it is today if it wasnt for me and my co worker!!

There's a difference between criticising and advising. People are offering the latter.

Right so you have studied for your role in college and have 2 years experience in addition to your two years in this position. Is that right? Ok, and again I don't mean to be harsh, but 4 years experience still isn't that much.

Covering a few days/weeks here and there when your supervisor was sick/on holidays really doesn't compare to someone who has been in that position full-time elsewhere.

Also most employers (depending on whether or not qualifications are a requirement) will value practical work experience over college on most occasions.

The company don't owe you anything. If they don't think you have enough experience then there isn't much you can do about it other than stick it out there and gain enough experience for you to move up. If you're not happy about it then by all means walk, but be very aware that jobs are thin on the ground at the minute and chances are you'll yet again find yourself up against a hell of a lot of people more experienced than you. Personally I reckon you'd be nuts to walk away from a job you've had for two years. Instead you should maybe readjust the attitude you have to being "told what to do".

TCP/IP_King

turbogirl09 wrote: »

i know myself I deserve the job. i put alot into the service.!

1 - I was there and fully understand your initial reaction - DONT LEAVE THAT JOB - that was my mistake no 1
2 - forget all the bullsh1t your employer is telling you
3 - DONT LEAVE THAT JOB
4 - you have more experience here so sit back and let your new boss take the reins for a while, if you really want to do what you are doing now you will be unhappy elsewhere
5 - if you really cannot stomach it, DONT LEAVE THAT JOB - spend your time building contacts for the next opportunity in your area. As someone else said here it's much easier to move from one job to another rather than trying to move into a job from a "what were you doing for the last 6 months" position.
6 - remember it's a long way to 65

aftermn

Hay Turbo

despite what some have said, the Boss is not always right, but he is always in charge.

However TCP is right. In the current environment, do not quit, unless another job is immediately available.

Our current economic problem could last a long time. Like I have heard that a certain shopping centre, due for demolition and re-development, is now not to be demolished but re-opened with leases of 9 years.

Keep what you have and move only when you have more.

Wishbone Ash

turbogirl09 wrote: »

Well i have to say you cant judge me as i havent mentioned what type of job it is nor what it is involved!

The nature of the job is not particularly relevant to your query.

turbogirl wrote:

I have alot of experience

There is a difference between experience and learning from experience. I work with people who are in position since the 1960s. They have lots of experience but some are only mediocre at what they do.

turbogirl wrote:

While the girl i worked with was on holidays or sick i filled in and was in charge

That's standard practise in most workplaces and is usually stated in your contract of employment.

My employer didn't hold any interviews from 1987 to 2000. Therefore many staff were 'acting up' above their substantive positions. Some of those staff who had 'acted up' full time for 13 years were unsuccessful at subsequent interviews. They had to accept that and return to their substantive roles.

turbogirl wrote:

The girl who also applied is alot older than me which made me think she might get the job.

Her age should be irrelevant but she may bring more to the job than you.

Think of it the other way around. Suppose in 20 years, you apply for an advertised position in which your are very qualified to hold. Wouldn't you be annoyed if it was given to a much younger person with a lot less experience.

turbogirl wrote:

Now you cant really go off and say its an immature decision bcoz until you experince it for yourself you cant judge.

Leaving a position in the current climate because of a set back appears foolish and immature to me. You are effictively cutting off you nose to spite you face.

turbogirl wrote:

I am looking for advice not Critizism

You are being provided with advice. You can't expect to bring your query to a public forum and only expect to get responses which suit you. Would you prefer if we did that? It would make for a very boring and unconstructive forum.

turbogirl wrote:

Also my employer stated "if it was my choice you would get the job" they are the exact words that came out of her mouth.......... .............but for law reasons they have to advertise. now she was not the only person interviewing

Again it's standard practise for an employer to say that. It's a handy 'get out' clause for them. It's a standard joke in my workplace that when the most senior manager assures a potential candidate that they're the person for the job, they're doomed!

If you employer really wanted you, you can be assured that the other interviewer would be made aware of this. Even if the other employer was not made aware of it, your employer could be more generous in her marking thereby raising you combined score.

turbogirl wrote:

Now i will say this again beocause i know myself I deserve the job. i put alot into the service.! it wouldnt be what it is today if it wasnt for me and my co worker!!

Without knowing you, I don't think anyone could dispute that but it is possible that the other person may be more effective and efficient. I work with a colleague who puts everthing into his role, works through lunch, late in the evening but I do the same work in half the time.

I don't mean to sound harsh but you really need to look at the bigger picture. Don't leave that job. If you do, how will you answer the "why did you leave you last position" question at any subsequent interview?

Stay and impress the new person and make your boss regret her decision.