scanners

Cowmad

Hi

Does anyone know roughly the price of a new cow scanner. I am thinking of investing in one.Could get a few customers to make it pay.

wiggy123

i am unsure of the price of one! i'm sure if you did a google search,u'll come up with scanners+prices!
below a few links! might help ya...

my ai man--who works for PG...was out during the summer-had gotten a new scanner! said it costed €10k..how true that is,i don't know!

http://www.ryallomahony.com/pregnancy_scanners.htm

http://www.fatcow.com.au/t/Cow-Pregnancy-Testing

http://www.vaucluse-aps.com.au/electronics.htm

reilig

In reality, you're talking €10 to €14k for one depending on the spec that you're looking for. You're also looking at at least 3 months training. There are some people offering training in Ireland but they are pretty crap. It costs about €5k to go to the uk and do the proper training course for 6 weeks and then come back here and do some work experience on it.

There are some cheap pregnancy detectors advertised on teh Framer's Journal these days, but these will only work on cattle and will only tell you if she is in calf or not.

There are 2 types of scanner. The old type is like a small tv that is set up along a crush and you leave it there and work with the probe that is on it. Its worked in a fixed position.

In the last few years there are new scanners on the market. They are carried in a small backpack and you wear a pair of goggles that have a screen in the top of them. They are very mobile, rechargable and practical for Irish farms. They do cost €14k however.

A word of warning, there are a lot of people out there who spent a lot of money on scanners but never bothered to get the proper training. People have been sued over mistakes that they made. Others have just got a bad name for making mistakes and they get very little business. It would be important for you to get the proper training.

aristo

You have to handle over 5000 cows to get your money back

reilig

aristo wrote: »

You have to handle over 5000 cows to get your money back

The service costs for one of these scanners is at least €2k a year. It is also advisable to buy an extra probe at €2500 because they tend to give problems and have to be sent to the Uk to be repaired. You'd want to be doing 100 cows / 500 ewes per day in the peak time to make it pay.

Username John

reilig wrote: »

The service costs for one of these scanners is at least €2k a year. It is also advisable to buy an extra probe at €2500 because they tend to give problems and have to be sent to the Uk to be repaired. You'd want to be doing 100 cows / 500 ewes per day in the peak time to make it pay.

Again - off topic...

Howe much is it for scanning ewes? I only have around 40 - so it maybe that there is a minimum amount I would pay for that many?

We never scanned em before, just took out chances, but am debating whether its something we should start...

Thanks

reilig

Sold all my ewes this year and didn't scan them last year, but think I recall paying €2 per ewe then.

Username John wrote: »

Again - off topic...

Howe much is it for scanning ewes? I only have around 40 - so it maybe that there is a minimum amount I would pay for that many?

We never scanned em before, just took out chances, but am debating whether its something we should start...

Thanks

wiggy123

i have gotten cows scanned...got 7 scanned there few months back--cost me €40...
so thats about €5.70 a cow...gd value me thinks!
i think sheep were aroun .40c each-but i think it depends on numbers to be done,etc...think there could b a call out charge like..say €30 mayb on top of that .40c

i'm unsure--no harm in ringing up the scanner men,ask them! they do be advertised in the farmers jounral+local papers!

wiggy123

might help
Current Edition: 28 December 2002


In Donegal the Farm Relief service charges an initial fee of €40 for the first five cows and €3 for each additional cow. Scanning ewes cost €65 for 50 ewes, €90 for 100 ewes, €160 for 200 ewes and €225 for 300 ewes. Clare FRS offers a cow scanning service on Saturdays only. They have a minimum initial charge of €30 which includes the first three cows. Subsequent cows are scanned for €3 each. In FRS Waterford the call out charge is €49.50 which includes the first five cows. Additional cows cost €3.50 each.
In Tipperary, the Roscrea FRS charges €40 for first 4 cows and €3 per cow thereafter. For sheep scanning there is a call out charge of €35 with each ewe scanned charged at 70c. They give concessions on price where large numbers are being scanned. Prices also vary between private scanners. In Kildare Joe Harnett charges a flat fee of €3 a cow but has a minimum call out charge of €10 a cow. One scanner in Cork has a sliding scale in which one cow costs €10, thirty cows costs €90, 50 cows cost €130, 75 cows costs €180, 100 cows cost €210 and 150 cows costs €260. Cows can be scanned at almost any time from 35 days after insemination, but ideally before four months has passed. Between 45 and 50 cows can be scanned within an hour. Sheep can be scanned from two months after the ra

wiggy123

http://www.frsnetwork.com/index.asp

could contact these..let u know prices etc....

or others!! hopefully be of help

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whelan1

i paid 450 euro to get 150 cows done - said he normally charges 4 euro a head but as we had so many he gave me a discount - i would second the thought of being properly trained we have had many disasters with scanning people

Cowmad

whelan1 wrote: »

i paid 450 euro to get 150 cows done - said he normally charges 4 euro a head but as we had so many he gave me a discount - i would second the thought of being properly trained we have had many disasters with scanning people

Ya i would agree with you there. Could i ask you what kind of problems did you have with the scanning people.

whelan1

1 lad was rushing and had to do my 100 cows and 3 or 4 other farms 1 morning but he perforated 3 of my cows- put the scanner through their insides 2 cows die and 1 ended up a screw - they had adhesions in them after this ... when i think back to other times he scanned there was sometimes a cow a few wekks after that would have a "blockage" that we would get put down , we have had none of these since we stopped getting him .. then another guy told me cows where empty and they where actually in calf i estrumated 3 of them and they threw calves - the bull had been out for 5 weeks when he scanned . he also told me cows where empty and i was fattening them 2 of them calved also never told me cows where having twins - i lost 2 of these last year as they wherent getting extra feeding prior to calving - i had 8 sets of twins altogether that i knew nothing about last year

Cowmad

Ya we had the same problems.Told that cows where not in calf. injected and one threw a calf. With results like this i think it would be better to buy your own scanner. I have a fella said he would train me he is a qualified vet.

whelan1

one of the guys that scanned mine IS a vet:eek:

pajero12

Was at cavan machinery show last year and there was a guy selling the scanners in the third link of the second thread!It was the a14 (Second orange one)He Charged around 7000 i think and it seemed to be pretty clear picture!

mayoireland

Cowmad wrote: »

Hi i have being pricing the last week ,bcf tecnology in co galway have a scanner with goggles from 8500 euro.There is another company in cork ryall o mahony ltd with scanners for about 5500 euro but it hasnt the goggles.

john sweeney

Cowmad wrote: »

Hi

Does anyone know roughly the price of a new cow scanner. I am thinking of investing in one.Could get a few customers to make it pay.

Hi ultrasound scanners for sale on vetequip.ie

tedg

I scan about 80,000 cows a year, started using BCF duo scan 10 years ago done around 700,000 cows with it, wasnt cheap AU$25 k, and very expencive to maintain.
Now using ReproScan XTC with convex probe this unit is around $14k, has an amazing field of view with high qualit picture either with goggles or LCD monitor, use extention arm and in the right conditions can scan around 300 per hour on a rotary. also do training but youll have to come to Australia for that or shout me a trip over your way.
Most trainings I do take only a day . not hard but essential you learn a good technique. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=781HuWkqC2E check this you tube clip will give you a idea how it goes
Ted

reilig

tedg wrote: »

I scan about 80,000 cows a year, started using BCF duo scan 10 years ago done around 700,000 cows with it, wasnt cheap AU$25 k, and very expencive to maintain.
Now using ReproScan XTC with convex probe this unit is around $14k, has an amazing field of view with high qualit picture either with goggles or LCD monitor, use extention arm and in the right conditions can scan around 300 per hour on a rotary. also do training but youll have to come to Australia for that or shout me a trip over your way.
Most trainings I do take only a day . not hard but essential you learn a good technique. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=781HuWkqC2E check this you tube clip will give you a idea how it goes
Ted

220 cows a day, 7 days a week. 365 days a year. Wow that's some amount of scanning. I take it you're not in Ireland? Most farms here are 20 to 30 cows in size and you would have to do a good bit of travelling to cover 200 cows in 1 day.