Temporary mat tee box

lemon head

Guys,

how annoying is this to you? Went to a golf club and was told by the pro there that we to play off the green tees which was grand. This was then turned into shocked when we saw that we had to play on mats. couldnt for the life of me get the small tees pushed down to the ground for the irons shot!!! Hate this:(:(

jimjo

That would annoy me so much, I’d ask for some money off but would probably jib out at the last minute! Played recently and it was winter rules which I didn’t want, but in order to protect the course and tee boxes I suppose its needed. Now don’t get me started on Winter greens but again I can see why there used.

lemon head

Me and my mate decided to tee up behind the "green" temporary mat in some grass! Don't think i come back to the same club again!!!:(:(

GreeBo

lemon head wrote: »

Me and my mate decided to tee up behind the "green" temporary mat in some grass! Don't think i come back to the same club again!!!:(:(

Why on earth would you do this?:mad:
The mats are there for a reason; to protect the ground at this time of year when its wet, soft and the grass is not growing anymore.

It baffles and annoys me no end to see mats in play with fresh divot marks all around them.

Mr check raise

i actually the temp tees for the iron shots. its like hitting on a driving range., and we all know we play better in the driving range!. i think there is a bigger margin of error in gettin contact. Also if there put in properly they should help a bit with alignment.

However when hitting the big dog i always feel the boxes are too small and im goin to fall off!

lemon head

For two simple reason , first reason , as you stand on the mat, you get the feeling that you going to fall off the mat coz its so bloody small ,just like like what mr check raise said earlier.
And secondly, its very much like playing on the driving range which for me is a no no cause i cannot hit a good shot on the range as i would on the course normally.
When we actually teed it off behind the mat, we tee it up quite high so the was no divot to take...so no damage done then.:):):)

Zardoz

I cant stand those mats ,totally unacceptable on any hole bar a par 3.
Golf shots are meant to be hit off two surfaces and two surfaces only,grass and sand,rubber doesnt feature.

Burgerman55

GreeBo wrote: »

Why on earth would you do this?:mad:
The mats are there for a reason; to protect the ground at this time of year when its wet, soft and the grass is not growing anymore.

It baffles and annoys me no end to see mats in play with fresh divot marks all around them.

fair enough point greebo but i'd tend to disagree with you
if the course if that wet or delicate, quite simply it should not be open
or - it should be priced at a significantly reduced green fee with full disclosure up front regarding the condition of the course and the winter rules in place

if i turned up like that and had not been told about the mats, damn right i'd be sticking my tee in the turf

Burgerman55

ps - i'd also be launching my drive on the 18th in the direction of the club house..
some golf clubs have just too much cheek

GreeBo

Burgerman55 wrote: »

fair enough point greebo but i'd tend to disagree with you
if the course if that wet or delicate, quite simply it should not be open
or - it should be priced at a significantly reduced green fee with full disclosure up front regarding the condition of the course and the winter rules in place

if i turned up like that and had not been told about the mats, damn right i'd be sticking my tee in the turf

I dont understand this attitude at all. They are not doing this to annoy people, its done for the good of the course. Its a fact of life that the ground is wetter this time of year and that grass wont grow back before the weeds will. Im sure you can ring up on the day and confirm what local rules are in place. You can in any club I've ever played in.

Do you think they should ring everyone and let them know they have mats in play on some holes?

Every course in the world would have the same ground concerns, its not a question of the course being overly delicate. If everyone ignored the mats then all the teeing areas on the par threes and some par4s would be in bits within a week and then the course would have to close.

Seems to me that the ones who are delicate are the ones who cannot play of a mat.
It also makes no sense to ignore the mat but then pick the ball cleanly off the tee...why cant you just do that on the mat?

And as for falling off the mat...If you are in danger of falling over when you swing then mats should be the least of your worries.

Burgerman55 wrote: »

ps - i'd also be launching my drive on the 18th in the direction of the club house..
some golf clubs have just too much cheek

Again Im baffled. What cheek exactly? Its winter, unless you have recently moved from Arizona you know what winter golf in Ireland can mean. Dont bother to turn up at all if you cant play off the perfect conditions a mat provides; just stay away until Summer.

heavyballs

lemon head wrote: »

For two simple reason , first reason , as you stand on the mat, you get the feeling that you going to fall off the mat coz its so bloody small ,just like like what mr check raise said earlier.
And secondly, its very much like playing on the driving range which for me is a no no cause i cannot hit a good shot on the range as i would on the course normally.
When we actually teed it off behind the mat, we tee it up quite high so the was no divot to take...so no damage done then.:):):)

so when you swing your driver you do absolutely no damage at all to the ground,i know i do as i have a quick swing and the ground was obviosly wet.
I don't think there's an argument here at all, it's quite simple,if there's a mat there use it.end of>

Burgerman55

i'm a reasonable bloke, if theres a mat there and i've been told about this before handing over my dosh then its up to me to accept the deal or not
but the OP said he didn't realise this was the case until he walked up to the first tee
i know a lot of golf courses are under financial pressure at present, but ripping off players is not the way forward

heavyballs

at this time of year it wouldn't bother me,i doubt if he paid top dollar at this time of year and if he did go and buy an open fairways book

lemon head

i can understand people's grivences here and i do normally respect the clubs wishes and follow the code of conduct. But when i handed over the 45euro , the pro then told us to use the green tee box which was fine.It wasn't until we arrive at the first tee box when we saw the rubber green tee mat on the green tee box. The course itself wasn't wet, it was quite dry and the fairway were firm enough! That was disappointing. It wasn't done in revenge or anything like that. It was purely cause the mat itself very bouncy and bloody tiny. Some of the tee mats when using the driver, my right leg was at the edge of the box.I didnt want to be dangling over or thinking about it while swinging. Why should i?

Burgerman55

i think thats perfectly reasonable lemonbrain

heavyballs

"Some of the tee mats when using the driver, my right leg was at the edge of the box.I didnt want to be dangling over or thinking about it while swinging. Why should i? "

i reckon you're stance is defo too wide,i'd get that checked out with your local pro:rolleyes:
Btw can you say what club that is pls?

GreeBo

Burgerman55 wrote: »

i know a lot of golf courses are under financial pressure at present, but ripping off players is not the way forward

Again I dont understand how you think they are ripping you off.
If you dont like it then go back and say sorry I dont want to play off temporary tee's and Im sure they will give you your money back.

LemonHead wrote:

It wasn't until we arrive at the first tee box when we saw the rubber green tee mat on the green tee box. The course itself wasn't wet, it was quite dry and the fairway were firm enough! That was disappointing. It wasn't done in revenge or anything like that. It was purely cause the mat itself very bouncy and bloody tiny. Some of the tee mats when using the driver, my right leg was at the edge of the box.I didnt want to be dangling over or thinking about it while swinging. Why should i?

So then why didnt you go back to him and say you had an issue with playing from these tees?
If your right foot is too near the edge then why not move the ball more to the left? I dont believe that there is a mat in play where both of your feet are hanging off the edge...

As for "why should I"? Well because they make the rules of the course, not you. Your two choices are to either obey them or dont play. If I saw people on my course not using the mats that are in play (or ignoring pitch marks, not raking bunkers etc etc) I would report them and would expect any member to do the same. Long after you are gone Im back there every week looking at pot holes on the tee box because somebody doesnt like mats.

lemon head

Nothing wrong with my stance that for sure mate!!!

Didn't go back to the pro cause despite the bloody bouncy mats, the course itself was lovely! :cool::cool::cool:

mickthemallet

does anyone know where you can buy the temporary tee boxes?

Su Campu

No golf course should be in a situation where the ground is too wet to tee off from. If that's the case then the course should be closed. It's not good enough that the fairways and greens are playable but the tee boxes not. There are far too many courses with bad tee boxes, with unlevel ground being the main problem. The top courses do it right, and in my opinion there's no excuse why others can't do likewise. They may not have the resources to get the rest of the course up to the same high standard, but the tee box is a key area that gets the most traffic and should therefore have optimum drainage. Trying to make up for substandard construction by expecting players to play off rubber mats is unacceptable, especially when it is not communicated beforehand.

k.p.h

Su Campu wrote: »

No golf course should be in a situation where the ground is too wet to tee off from.

It's not really that the ground is too wet to tee from more so the fact that the grass dose not regrow after been disturbed, even just stood upon.

Grass growth in Ireland peaks in May/June but is actually in decline from Aug on, by the time it reaches this time of year it's not really growing at all.

It dose not matter if it is dry or wet, if enough people walk on the one spot this time of year it will destroy it.

I don't really know why people feel like this about the temporary arrangements on courses, it's worth it to be safe in the knowledge that when you step up on the tee for the first medal of the year you can be sure the course is going to be in tip top condition.

It's a catch 22 anyway, if the course is in bad condition people complain, if their are arrangements to protect the courses conditions in place people complain. .!

All that said poorly fitted mats are a pain ..

colmsix

mickthemallet wrote: »

does anyone know where you can buy the temporary tee boxes?

http://www.crumbrubber.ie

The_Architect

Just hit some shots and have fun.

If asked to hit off mats, that's what you do.

That said, it is a little frustrating when you are presented with a little raised 2x2 pad hemmed in by wooden retainers. Clubs could do well to spend the miniscule extra money in providing a 4x4 mat dug out and placed at grade level with the rest of the tee. That way they could use them much more without these sort of complaints.

stringy

it's not unreasonable, it's not a big deal, I wouldn't worry about it. You were not ripped off. Get over it.

You don't take divots with irons? Get some lessons.

Mats are there for a reason, use them, respect the course and their rules. Don't go back if you're that aggrieved.

Happy Christmas

Hacker111

stringy wrote: »

it's not unreasonable, it's not a big deal, I wouldn't worry about it. You were not ripped off. Get over it.

You don't take divots with irons? Get some lessons.

Mats are there for a reason, use them, respect the course and their rules. Don't go back if you're that aggrieved.

Happy Christmas

agree 100%.... the mats are there for a reason...don't be an ignorant course damaging golfer......

Benny Cake

The only time I ever nearly came to blows on a golf course was over temporary mats. I was playing with a good mate who also just happens to be a thick-headed ignoramus at the best of times!!
We were playing a casual round in Cahir and decided to put a fiver on it (big mistake!) I was up a few at the turn and he starts blaming the mats for his poor performance. He wanted to play off the tee-boxes and I refused, long story short, he walked off the course after a major shouting match!!
We still laugh about it to this day...

fatherbuzcagney

i love playing of the mats. i wish they were in play all year round:)i always hit ball at range off the mats and am a ricky ranger as tiger would say:P

GreeBo

zombie threads should be left in peace...please open another thread...