Tenant not paying

Snazzy_Chazzy

Hi Gang. OK heres my situtation. House mate LOVELY girl. Moved in August paid Month in advance all AOK. Odd evening cooks me the odd meal. Allways asks if i need anything in the shop. BUT has now no job and keeps telling me she is owed money and will pay next week then next week then next week. Got 400 last week said she would pay more asap.
I am to the pin of my collar and really need that money. Is it a bad idea to tell tennants your relying on their payments and that you are tight for money. It is after all a type of business agreement so should one tell their customer they are tight for money??? I was thinking to say that I am broke (which i am) and use this as a platform to say pay up or get out. Or is this admitting a weakness to your tenant. Hence they will tell the other tenants in the house as well?! Your thoughts?

PCPhoto

Snazzy_Chazzy wrote: »

Hi Gang. OK heres my situtation. House mate LOVELY girl. Moved in August paid Month in advance all AOK. Odd evening cooks me the odd meal. Allways asks if i need anything in the shop. BUT has now no job and keeps telling me she is owed money and will pay next week then next week then next week. Got 400 last week said she would pay more asap.
I am to the pin of my collar and really need that money. Is it a bad idea to tell tennants your relying on their payments and that you are tight for money. It is after all a type of business agreement so should one tell their customer they are tight for money??? I was thinking to say that I am broke (which i am) and use this as a platform to say pay up or get out. Or is this admitting a weakness to your tenant. Hence they will tell the other tenants in the house as well?! Your thoughts?

I think you need to tell her - I had a similar situation with a company late on payments - eventually after 2months I went into them - explained that I needed the money and am reliant on them paying - I got my money in a lump sum (€9K) and was able to pay off the people I had to borrow from.... lucky for me I had people I could borrow from - that knew I was good for it.

AARRRGH

I've lived with people like her. It will never get better. She is a child in an adult's body so she doesn't understand her responsibilities. As you are seeing, she has turned her financial problem into your problem. She carries on like nothing is wrong.

You have to kick her out.

Couple of questions:

How much is the deposit?
How much does she owe you?
Is she a tenant or a licensee?

stepbar

AARRRGH wrote: »

I've lived with people like her. It will never get better. She is a child in an adult's body so she doesn't understand her responsibilities. As you are seeing, she has turned her financial problem into your problem. She carries on like nothing is wrong.

You have to kick her out.

Couple of questions:

How much is the deposit?
How much does she owe you?
Is she a tenant or a licensee?

Jeasus holy christ, she lost her job not robbed a bank. I seriously wouldn't want to be depending on the social welfare to keep the wolf from the door. She could be waiting on dedundancy, dole payments or whatever. These things take time to sort out. Of course she should have savings but as the OP has demonstrated, not everyone is as organised as they should be. If the OP did a proper background check before he took her in (as in references, bank statements etc) then it shouldn't be a problem to cut the girl some slack.

On the same count it's hardly her fault either that the OP is to the pin of his coller.

If I was the OP I'd be trying to ensure that she getting her ass down to the social welfare / community welfare office and looking for some money and finding out her entitlements. And I would be telling her your suitation (you have a mortgage and leave it at that) also but christ I wouldn't be kicking her out on the street just yet.

AARRRGH

stepbar wrote: »

Jeasus holy christ, she lost her job not robbed a bank. I seriously wouldn't want to be depending on the social welfare to keep the wolf from the door. She could be waiting on dedundancy, dole payments or whatever. These things take time to sort out. Of course she should have savings but as the OP has demonstrated, not everyone is as organised as they should be.

On the same count it's hardly her fault either that the OP is to the pin of his coller.

If I was the OP I'd be trying to ensure that she getting her ass down to the social welfare / community welfare office and looking for some money and finding out her entitlements.

I have to disagree.

We all know she could get the rent from somewhere, whether this be a loan from her parents, or a withdrawal on her credit card. Therefore - because she isn't doing this - it is fair to say she thinks it is ok to not pay her rent.

I've lived with people for 12 years and I've seen this 5 or 6 times. What the OP is seeing is just the beginning...

stepbar

AARRRGH wrote: »

I have to disagree.

We all know she could get the rent from somewhere, whether this be a loan from her parents, or a withdrawal on her credit card. Therefore - because she isn't doing this - it is fair to say she thinks it is ok to not pay her rent.

I've lived with people for 12 years and I've seen this 5 or 6 times. What the OP is seeing is just the beginning...

You have no clue what her suitation is or what her background is. The OP hasn't given us enough information to make that judgement. TBH, I don't really feel overly sorry for the OP given his own greedy nature - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=61913314#post61913314.

AARRRGH

stepbar wrote: »

You have no clue what her suitation is or what her background is. The OP hasn't given us enough information to make that judgement. TBH, I don't really feel overly sorry for the OP given his own greedy nature - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=61913314#post61913314.

Do you think rent is optional?

No, of course you don't.

So the girl should have paid her rent. End of story.

We both know she can get the money from somewhere - parents, friends, overdraft, CC, etc.

The OP should not be the one who has to suffer because of the girls problems.

PS Her other post is totally irrelevant. The fact that she's a landlord should not taint your opinion of this particular situation.

stepbar

AARRRGH wrote: »

Do you think rent is optional?

No, of course you don't.

So the girl should have paid her rent. End of story.

We both know she can get the money from somewhere - parents, friends, overdraft, CC, etc.

The OP should not be the one who has to suffer because of the girls problems.

PS Her other post is totally irrelevant. The fact that she's a landlord should not taint your opinion of this particular situation.

Do we huh?

The fact she's a landlord unfortunatly does taint my opinion. Loosing your job ain't a crime but being overly greedy..... well it depends on your opinion of course.

AARRRGH

stepbar wrote: »

Do we huh?

The fact she's a landlord unfortunatly does taint my opinion. Loosing your job ain't a crime but being overly greedy..... well it depends on your opinion of course.

Well you probably shouldn't be posting so if you can't be unbiased or are unable to give an unemotional opinion. :pac: Keep your landlord bashing to another thread.

Back on topic: Yes, I believe the girl can get the rent from somewhere. As stated, I have been in the OPs situation many times. It depresses me to say there are a very large percentage of people out there who simply don't understand their responsibilities. Rent has to be paid on time and in full. It is not optional.

stepbar

AARRRGH wrote: »

Well you probably shouldn't be posting so if you can't be unbiased or are unable to give an unemotional opinion. :pac: Keep your landlord bashing to another thread.

Back on topic: Yes, I believe the girl can get the rent from somewhere. As stated, I have been in the OPs situation many times. It depresses me to say there are a very large percentage of people out there who simply don't understand their responsibilities. Rent has to be paid on time and in full. It is not optional.

O ok..... Here's my "unemotional" opinion.

How do you know she can get the rent from "somewhere"? Where exactly has this been stated?

Would "somewhere" include rent allowance? For which there's a waiting period at present, correct? What do you propose she does in that case?

AARRRGH

stepbar wrote: »

O ok..... Here's my "unemotional" opinion.

How do you know she can get the rent from "somewhere"? Where exactly has this been stated?

Would "somewhere" include rent allowance? For which there's a waiting period at present, correct? What do you propose she does in that case?

We all have family and friends. Most of us have credit cards. If someone really needs to get a couple of hundred together to pay their rent, they can do it.

Rent is not something you pay whenever you can afford it. As an adult you have to make sure you have the money there each month.

It's unfortunate the girl lost her job, but that should not be the landlord's problem, it should be the tenants problem. At the moment the tenant is making it the landlord's problem.

I believe that is wrong.

ballsymchugh

how about the girl lives within her means. she's lost her job, so she can't afford the rent, so she should move out to cheaper accommodation or move home and deal with the social welfare from there. there's no need for the landlord to suffer because the tenant is, no matter how much the rent is, or whatever the status of the landlord is.

stepbar

AARRRGH wrote: »

We all have family and friends. Most of us have credit cards. If someone really needs to get a couple of hundred together to pay their rent, they can do it.

Rent is not something you pay whenever you can afford it. As an adult you have to make sure you have the money there each month.

It's unfortunate the girl lost her job, but that should not be the landlord's problem, it should be the tenants problem. At the moment the tenant is making it the landlord's problem.

I believe that is wrong.

Once again, you're creating an "ideal" world scenario where family and friends are ten a penny. The "somewhere" bank doesn't cut it to be honest as you're making the fanciful assumption that A) this is always an option and everyone has access to an endless amounts of credit or credit in the first place.

Secondly, I've never said that rent is optional. But thankfully we have a social welfare system that should prevent suitations like what the OP is proposing (i.e. thinking of ditching the tenent after a grand total of 3 months!!!) 3 months FFS :rolleyes: The OP has created his own problems, in truth.

And anyhow, lastly, the OP hasn't given us enough information to work on and decide whether he's correct or not. It's very easy to make assumptions when you (or me for that matter) have no idea what's going on.

BArra

indeed, she should pay up or get out

rent is not some optional thing you may or may not pay

AARRRGH

stepbar wrote: »

But thankfully we have a social welfare system that should prevent suitations like what the OP is proposing (i.e. thinking of ditching the tenent after a grand total of 3 months!!!) 3 months FFS :rolleyes:

We live in a harsh world. If you can't afford your rent, you shouldn't expect your landlord to be charitable.

That's the way the world is, and I have no problem with that.

eth0_

The OP is not a charity, Stepbar. She's leasing a room in her house because she needs the money! She is perfectly entitled to ask this girl to move out if she's taking the p1ss.

However, she has made some effort to get her rent up to date. I would give her maybe 2 weeks to sort out the rest of the money, be it from her parents or credit card or getting an emergency loan from the social welfare.

As a matter of interest, how long would you let someone live in your house without paying their rent, stepbar?

stepbar

AARRRGH wrote: »

We live in a harsh world. If you can't afford your rent, you shouldn't expect your landlord to be charitable.

That's the way the world is, and I have no problem with that.

Ah jeasus :rolleyes:

The world's harsh but you don't have to be a cnut either.

AARRRGH

stepbar wrote: »

Ah jeasus :rolleyes:

The world's harsh but you don't have to be a cnut either.

It's not being a cnut.

The OP isn't her friend. She's certainly not her mammy. She's her landlord.

It's purely business.

ballsymchugh

stepbar wrote: »

Ah jeasus :rolleyes:

The world's harsh but you don't have to be a cnut either.

which is what someone who doesn't pay for what's been provided usually is!!

nxbyveromdwjpg

stepbar wrote: »

Once again, you're creating an "ideal" world scenario where family and friends are ten a penny. The "somewhere" bank doesn't cut it to be honest as you're making the fanciful assumption that A) this is always an option and everyone has access to an endless amounts of credit or credit in the first place.

WHO CARES if she is having a hard time living in the real world?? If she doesnt have the money to pay for the house then she needs to get out of it. Its you living in the dream world stepbar.

And I fail to see how the landlord is greedy either? She provides the room, the tenant pays money for this commodity.. thats how it works no? Is it because she owns three other apartments that you think this tenant should get her room for free? Do explain because Im genuinely baffled

stepbar

eth0_ wrote: »

The OP is not a charity, Stepbar. She's leasing a room in her house because she needs the money! She is perfectly entitled to ask this girl to move out if she's taking the p1ss.

However, she has made some effort to get her rent up to date. I would give her maybe 2 weeks to sort out the rest of the money, be it from her parents or credit card or getting an emergency loan from the social welfare.

As a matter of interest, how long would you let someone live in your house without paying their rent, stepbar?

Well entitled absolutely. However, would you throw someone out if they were waiting on rent allowance to come through? I certainly wouldn't. What would that achieve?

Putting a time frame on it is like asking how long a piece of string is. I'd "hope" that an experienced landlord would have the brains to suss this out based on the suitation put in front of him or her. And if that means throwing the person out, then so be it.

Sure you could be a cnut about it.... Some people are. Thankfully some people have still some shread of common sense left and don't resort to "pressing the red button" (for the want of a better phrase) at the first sign of trouble.

stepbar

AARRRGH wrote: »

It's not being a cnut.

The OP isn't her friend. She's certainly not her mammy. She's her landlord.

It's purely business.

You don't cut your nose off despite your face either do you?

eth0_

stepbar wrote: »

Well entitled absolutely. However, would you throw someone out if they were waiting on rent allowance to come through? I certainly wouldn't. What would that achieve?

Sorry - who said she was waiting on rent allowance? For all you know she might not have enough stamps on to even get the dole.

And even if she is waiting on rent allowance, she can go down to the social welfare and ask for a crisis loan, or ask her parents.

eth0_

stepbar wrote: »

You don't cut your nose off despite your face either do you?

Don't suppose you recently lost your job and are a bit behind on rent on a room you're renting, stepbar? :P

AARRRGH

stepbar wrote: »

You don't cut your nose off despite your face either do you?

I've lived with people who had a similar attitude as the girl who is living with the OP: "I'll pay the rent when I can".

It has never had a happy ending for me.

stepbar

eth0_ wrote: »

1) Sorry - who said she was waiting on rent allowance? For all you know she might not have enough stamps on to even get the dole.

2) And even if she is waiting on rent allowance, she can go down to the social welfare and ask for a crisis loan, or ask her parents.

1) Well hasn't my point been all along that we don't know exactly what's happened as the OP hasn't provided us with enough info to make a decision? Hasn't it?

2) I've suggest already that the OP do this if that be the case.

grizzly

If a friend was really hard up and needed a place to stay – I wouldn't put a time frame on how long they had. But if it was a lodger I'd have to be strict. Rent is accumulating every day and if days turn into months, complete payment will be very hard to catch up on.

the_syco

Snazzy_Chazzy wrote: »

BUT has now no job and keeps telling me she is owed money and will pay next week then next week then next week. Got 400 last week said she would pay more asap.
I am to the pin of my collar and really need that money. Is it a bad idea to tell tennants your relying on their payments and that you are tight for money. It is after all a type of business agreement so should one tell their customer they are tight for money??? I was thinking to say that I am broke (which i am) and use this as a platform to say pay up or get out. Or is this admitting a weakness to your tenant. Hence they will tell the other tenants in the house as well?! Your thoughts?

Next week never comes. What will she tell the other tenants? That you're a soft touch and can get away with not paying their rent?

stepbar wrote: »

Secondly, I've never said that rent is optional. But thankfully we have a social welfare system that should prevent suitations like what the OP is proposing (i.e. thinking of ditching the tenent after a grand total of 3 months!!!) 3 months FFS :rolleyes: The OP has created his own problems, in truth.

The OP is creating the problem by not being firm with the tenant.

marmalade3

At the end of this recession, after all the job losses, house repossessions, credit card jailings, and negative equity that we will all have to live with in one way or another - the only thing that is really important is how we dealt with people DURING the recession and if we can live with ourselves if we did not behave well towards other people.

For the love of God ..... give this girl a break.

Zamboni

marmalade3 wrote: »

At the end of this recession, after all the job losses, house repossessions, credit card jailings, and negative equity that we will all have to live with in one way or another - the only thing that is really important is how we dealt with people DURING the recession and if we can live with ourselves if we did not behave well towards other people.

For the love of God ..... give this girl a break.

Being out of pocket because you lose a jobs sucks.
Being out of pocket because someone else lost a job sucks more.

marmalade3

Agreed.

But if you can cut her a little more slack, you'll have great luck in your life. What goes around comes around. :rolleyes:

Jaysoose

How much more slack do you expect the landlord to give? People take the piss if given a chance, OP needs to nip this in the bud and give the girl her 2 options.

1. Pay the rent
2. Move out

No two ways about it, life is hard etc buy you have to pay your bills.

marmalade3

Uh, yeah, coz that's really going to get him his back-rent isn't it?

OP's first posting says she cooked the odd meal and always asked if anything was needed in the shop etc., she didn't have to do this. My instinct is that this girl is ok and would pay up if she had the funds to do so - most people are like that.

She HAS lost her job and she DID pay 400 so she IS trying.

AARRRGH

marmalade3 wrote: »

My instinct is that this girl is ok and would pay up if she had the funds to do so - most people are like that.

My experience renting would tell me otherwise! I've found most people will do anything to avoid paying their bills or their rent. That's why I would have a slightly harsh view on this topic. I accept though that maybe I've just been unlucky and have gotten a series of very immature, irresponsible flatmates.

Snazzy_Chazzy

thabnks for the replies
her situation is she if from outside europe and not entitled to any benefit and is awaiting a "job" which MIGHT be starting in January. And me having other properties is irrelavant. She is already eaten into her deposit and now 2 months behind and not paid a single bill ! i think im being fair. Sob story after sob story from her every 2 weeks. she hides in her room allday.

AARRRGH

Snazzy_Chazzy wrote: »

thabnks for the replies
her situation is she if from outside europe and not entitled to any benefit and is awaiting a "job" which MIGHT be starting in January. And me having other properties is irrelavant. She is already eaten into her deposit and now 2 months behind and not paid a single bill ! i think im being fair. Sob story after sob story from her every 2 weeks. she hides in her room allday.

So if I understand correctly:

• She is unemployed
• She is waiting for a job which MIGHT start in January
• She has already used her deposit to pay a months rent
• She owes two months rent
• She has not paid any bills
• She keeps making excuses

She has to go. And the lesson you need to learn is you kick tenants out immediately (in accordance with their rights, of course) if they can't pay their rent.

analbumcover

Yeah, okay... well regardless how nice she is and regardless of her circumstances you can not afford to support her any longer... and this is essentially what you are doing.

I feel for you and her, the recession sucks. However, you've done all you can at this point. She needs to get a loan from her parents, or friends and start paying you what she owes.

If you own the property she resides in then she is a licensee. If you are the lease holding tenant then she's the license. The residential tenancies act does not cover licensees. So basically she has no rights, you could kick her out tonight... not that you should.

If I was you, I would be decent and give her three days to pay what she owes, that's more than enough time to arrange a loan from a friend or a relative. This also gives her time to contact an agency like Focus Ireland who might be able to put her up somewhere.

However, if you put her out it's going to be nearly impossible to get the money you are owed back but this will allow you to rent to another licensee and stop the financial hemorrhaging.

AARRRGH

analbumcover wrote: »

If you own the property she resides in then she is a licensee. If you are the lease holding tenant then she's the license. The residential tenancies act does not cover licensees. So basically she has no rights, you could kick her out tonight... not that you should.

I think you have to give licensees "reasonable notice"?

analbumcover

AARRRGH wrote: »

I think you have to give licensees "reasonable notice"?

yes you do, but define "reasonable notice". Reasonable notice is undefined in the wording, it's subject to interpretation. She owes two months rent at this point so she's had well over two month's notice. Everyone knows that eviction is the result of not paying rent.

I think three days is more than reasonable considering he's been waiting two months for rent. He's not her keeper, the original poster has gone way above and beyond his obligations.

She gave him €400 last week...

Original Poster: work out a weekly payment plan with her, and let her know that if she breaks her commitment in anyway that her stuff will be in the hall. Sit her down, and speak calmly, but let her know you're serious. Whatever is going on with her financially is none of your business and it's no concern of yours, don't let her make it a concern of yours.

Jaysoose

marmalade3 wrote: »

Uh, yeah, coz that's really going to get him his back-rent isn't it?

OP's first posting says she cooked the odd meal and always asked if anything was needed in the shop etc., she didn't have to do this. My instinct is that this girl is ok and would pay up if she had the funds to do so - most people are like that.

She HAS lost her job and she DID pay 400 so she IS trying.

Coudlnt disagree more, your instinct tells you she is ok? lets stick to the facts shall we, the tenant has not paid is unemployed and is spoofing her way through every rent day or attempt by the OP to get the money owed. Unfortunately i think this is going to end in tears.

stepbar

Snazzy_Chazzy wrote: »

thabnks for the replies
her situation is she if from outside europe and not entitled to any benefit and is awaiting a "job" which MIGHT be starting in January. And me having other properties is irrelavant. She is already eaten into her deposit and now 2 months behind and not paid a single bill ! i think im being fair. Sob story after sob story from her every 2 weeks. she hides in her room allday.

It would have helped if you had mentioned this from the start.......

AARRRGH

AARRRGH wrote: »

I have to disagree.

We all know she could get the rent from somewhere, whether this be a loan from her parents, or a withdrawal on her credit card. Therefore - because she isn't doing this - it is fair to say she thinks it is ok to not pay her rent.

I've lived with people for 12 years and I've seen this 5 or 6 times. What the OP is seeing is just the beginning...

That's just not true. I was recently in a situation where I couldn't pay my rent. My college funding was late because of an error on their part. My parents couldn't lend me anything, my boyfriend either, I don't have a CC or an overdraft. Luckily my landlord was understanding - I tried to make it clear that it was a once off and once it was sorted, this wouldn't happen again. But not everyone has a 'back-up'.

convert

Unfortunately I've come across this situation before during my time sharing with people. The most recent one ended in tears for the landlord, who ended up having to fork out almost €350 in bills owing by a tenant who was also 5 months behind on their rent. This was despite the fact that the tenant in question was receiving job seekers' allowance plus rent allowance, none of which was used to fund the day-to-day costs of living, such as bills and rent.

I'd advise you to sit down with your tenant, explain that she is now 2 months behind in her rent (ex deposit) as well as in her bills. You have 2 options after this: A - give her 14 days in which to pay you all she owes you in rent and bills. If after this time she hasn't paid up, you give her 28 days notice to leave the house (as far as I remember, this is what is stated by the PRTB and when a tenant has signed a lease). Option B - you agree upon a payment plan with her and say that if she misses a payment she will be asked to leave.

I've heard so may sob stories in the past from housemates as to why they can't pay bills, rent, etc. and how they promise that they will pay next week. Unfortunately, next week never comes and the landlord and other tenants are left with outstanding bills when the non-bill and rent paying tenant leaves.

eth0_

I thought it was just a couple of weeks behind but 2 months is taking the mick.
Tell her she cannot possibly expect you to wait until she "might" have a job in January to receive money from her at the END of January - and think how far in arrears she will be by then, her first pay packet might not even cover it.

stepbar

Ok, here's where I'm at the moment. If the OP had posted the info he posted at the start my opinion would have differed. I think that the tenant should be asked to leave. I would be inclined to seek proposals after month 2 (and serving notice) and if on month 3 none are forthcoming I would be evicting her.

analbumcover

convert wrote: »

Unfortunately I've come across this situation before during my time sharing with people. The most recent one ended in tears for the landlord, who ended up having to fork out almost €350 in bills owing by a tenant who was also 5 months behind on their rent. This was despite the fact that the tenant in question was receiving job seekers' allowance plus rent allowance, none of which was used to fund the day-to-day costs of living, such as bills and rent.

I'd advise you to sit down with your tenant, explain that she is now 2 months behind in her rent (ex deposit) as well as in her bills. You have 2 options after this: A - give her 14 days in which to pay you all she owes you in rent and bills. If after this time she hasn't paid up, you give her 28 days notice to leave the house (as far as I remember, this is what is stated by the PRTB and when a tenant has signed a lease). Option B - you agree upon a payment plan with her and say that if she misses a payment she will be asked to leave.

I've heard so may sob stories in the past from housemates as to why they can't pay bills, rent, etc. and how they promise that they will pay next week. Unfortunately, next week never comes and the landlord and other tenants are left with outstanding bills when the non-bill and rent paying tenant leaves.

She is not covered by the private residential tenancies act because the landlord lives in the home with her...

Oroel

Hey, just thought id give a snippet of my story;

i moved into a house my dad owns and had moved out of (hes not a landlord, it was supposed to be just for me to move in) in june or july. Because i felt the need to take care of the girl i was originally living with (long story), i invited her to move out with me. she was very excited.

at NO POINT did i guarantee that my dad would sort a lease for her, do the rent allowance thing, i told her many times she would have to talk to HIM and NOT ME if she wanted any of these things.

She should have sorted a lease with him before moving. i was in the middle of organising myself to move to a different country and kept telling her to talk to him herself, and that it was between them, not to do with me.

so i moved to a different country after living there with her for a couple of months. I have to point out that we were on the same social welfare amounts in our last house, she got rent allowance, i didnt, yet i was able to pay the rent on time every time. when she first moved in she was broke (as usual) and asked if she could pay the deposit in bits. i thought that would be fine, but it ended up with me worrying and thinking about it all the time, and constantly having to ask her for it, it took MONTHS to get the whole thing from her.

I moved away, and she had the entire three bed house in a beautiful area with a big garden, with more than enough mod cons all to herself while i was gone. She told me she has changed all the bills into my name, but she hadnt done anything, ESB direct debit was taken from my account in September, as well as constant messaged from NTL asking for their payment. very annoying. i emailed her and still got nothing, it went on and on, she never said sorry that she couldn't pay, her emails got more and more abusive to the point that i have blocked her email address. She was blaming me for my dad not getting a lease sorted out. Her emails were full of bitching and moaning about how expensive it was (she agreed to live there knowing the price though? which is 450 for an entire house!)

She was always late with the rent, but was never honest about it, always saying next week or tomorrow, and he wouldnt get it for weeks. my dad is so lovely and generous and big hearted but has finally asked her to leave. she only paid him 200 for the last month. i'm pretty angry because my dad could be making a lot more money from the house from someone who deserves it. it was my fault for being overly generous and taking care of her so much. Now she has revealed her true colours of being so bitchy and underhanded and sneaky (she told me the house was broken into and a bag with 2000 euro in it was taken, then she changed her story twice, didn't tell my dad or the police about it!)

The major lesson i learnt here is, other peoples problems are not my problem and it doesnt matter WHAT is going on in someones life, it is not YOUR problem to fix. I have no income whatsoever here, and that ESB money she owes me i really depended on, it was just over 100e. it was her attitude of 'well im broke and dont have a job and couldnt be bothered finding one and i have personal problems right now and i dont have a lease so why should i pay you the money i owe you?' that was the problem. in the last email before i blocked her she told me she had seen her 'legal advisor' and she doesnt have to pay anything until she gets a lease.

the lease has nothing to do with the bill she owes. i have learnt so much from this. She would always borrow my stuff or clothes without asking, now she is in my home, with all of personal things and equipment, and i have no idea what shes going to steal break etc etc. scary.
sorry for the length of this, feel free to give out to me!

jenny487

hi, my friend has tenants who won't/can't pay rent.

what can she do?

jenny