Teaching several levels in one class (Irish)

gaeilgebeo

Split to new thread and moved from LC to T&L.

RLH

Zephyr91 wrote: »

The class is a mixture of pass and honours students so he switches from each, (but if I may say so spends a lot more time with the pass people).

5 of us are doing honours and about 15-20 are doing pass.

In fairness to your teacher, teaching 2 levels in the one class is impossible! You cant give 100% to either group.

gaeilgegrinds

For the record, teach 3 levels in my 6th year class. Was recommended we do that, unusual school situation this year. It's most definetely possibly. Did it 2 years ago aswell. It takes A LOT of organisation. I do tape during lunchtime. No problems getting the grades. I don't feel any teacher can use it as a cop out.

gaeilgebeo

gaeilgegrinds wrote: »

For the record, teach 3 levels in my 6th year class. Was recommended we do that, unusual school situation this year. It's most definetely possibly. Did it 2 years ago aswell. It takes A LOT of organisation. I do tape during lunchtime. No problems getting the grades. I don't feel any teacher can use it as a cop out.

I have to strongly disagree with you gaeilgegrinds. I dont care how organised a teacher is, it is not possible to give 100% of yourself and your teaching to a class when you're teaching 3 levels at the one time. I'm suprised you would even suggest it. And as for tape during lunchtime, 3 levels are completely different questions and answers! Ordinary level and Higher level answers to prose and poetry are at a completely different standard and level of irish! Same with the oral! I really cant understand how you maintain there's "no problem getting grades".

gaeilgegrinds

I didn't say I agreed with it.
I didn't say I liked it.
I simply said grades did not slip.
I don't run my school, I do my job. I was told there was no other option. I gave my all to my students and grades did not slip. It took more work out of me and I was half dead at the end of the year. What would you have suggested I do?
I'll continue to do this until the system in our school changes. My students come first.

gaeilgegrinds

And I NEVER suggested it! Can't see where that was said but I never said I did. Our W.S.E. suggested it, not me!

gaeilgebeo

gaeilgegrinds wrote: »

And I NEVER suggested it! Can't see where that was said but I never said I did. Our W.S.E. suggested it, not me!

I said I was suprised that you would suggest that it was effective to teach 3 levels in the one class and that grades aren't affected. And I am shocked that a WSE suggests teaching 3 levels in the one room?????? That is the complete opposite of what our Irish inspection said! All our classes are streamed for Irish and our report said that was the only way to teach the subject effectively.
I know you are not running your school and that you have to teach what you are given and fair play. I wasn't suprised at this, as every school is different and has different circumstances, I was suprised to hear an Irish teacher say that it wouldn't affect grades!

gaeilgegrinds

Has not make any difference on grades but perhaps that is because I am doing so much with them outside of class time. I'd never suggest this, WSE did, let others think of this when they say we've a cushy number! Spent 8 hours preparing material today for our return on Monday, without that indeed grades would slip! Or rather tumble!

lauralee28

gaeilgegrinds wrote: »

Has not make any difference on grades but perhaps that is because I am doing so much with them outside of class time. I'd never suggest this, WSE did, let others think of this when they say we've a cushy number! Spent 8 hours preparing material today for our return on Monday, without that indeed grades would slip! Or rather tumble!

With all due respect gaeilgegrinds, any good teacher spends hours preparing lessons. I too have spent many hours over midterm preparing and correcting, but I don't expect a pat on the back, thats my job. And yours has to be the only WSE I've ever heard of recommending 3 levels in one class!

implausible

I know we have cutbacks, but I cannot believe that a WSE recommended teaching 3 levels in one class. I've taught HL/OL and OL/FL in the one class and that was challenging enough but all three levels?!

Have ye got a very small year group gaeilgegrinds? Or just one or two students doing FL or HL? If the WSE recommended this, your principal should have compensated by giving you some extra space on your t/table or allowing you to use your s/s to cover lunchtime classes. That's absolutely crazy!

gaeilgebeo

deemark wrote: »

I know we have cutbacks, but I cannot believe that a WSE recommended teaching 3 levels in one class. I've taught HL/OL and OL/FL in the one class and that was challenging enough but all three levels?!

Have ye got a very small year group gaeilgegrinds? Or just one or two students doing FL or HL? If the WSE recommended this, your principal should have compensated by giving you some extra space on your t/table or allowing you to use your s/s to cover lunchtime classes. That's absolutely crazy!

At last someone speaking a bit of sense!:o I can't believe that a WSE recommends it and the teacher concerned doesn't feel that having 3 levels in the one Irish class doesn't affect results!?