The Lisbon Treaty

partyatmygaff · 30-10-2009 11:00pm #1

**NO DISCUSSION OF THE TREATY ITSELF**
Just so it doesn't get locked.

Here we are 2 months after Lisbon, 2 months ago people had went Lisbon crazy and every person had their own malformed opinion or their own agenda, you wouldn't be able to go by a day without seeing the words "Lisbon Treaty" on the internet, on the streets and on your doorstep. The no side were warning of the imminent EU army and €1.87 minimum wage and the yes side were painting a picture of Lisbon as being the spark to reignite the economies growth. Nothing happened, maybe not yet but as of now nothing has changed. So what was all the fuss about?
Hillarious how one day everyone is so proactive in politics and the next they couldn't give a f*ck.

So whats everyone elses take on The Lisbon Treaty and the effect the referendum had on the people?
**NOT ON THE CONTENTS OR WHETHER YOU THINK THE YES OR NO SIDE SHOULD OF WON**

Dinner · 30-10-2009 11:03pm

Well, it hasn't actually entered into force yet. And won't until signed by President Klaus in Czech Rep.

But the second referendum did get people more involved and did get them to find out more about the Treaty rather than relying purely on posters, which is always a good thing.

Dartz · 30-10-2009 11:03pm

2 months?

What treaty?

G_R · 30-10-2009 11:04pm

i just came on to say in before the lock but it seems there was no point. Ah well

Wazdakka · 30-10-2009 11:08pm

dannym08 wrote: »

i just came on to say in before the lock but it seems there was no point. Ah well

Ssshhh

Lisbon

**Timbuk2** · 30-10-2009 11:08pm

I really couldn't give a flying fuck about the Lisbon Treaty.

phasers · 30-10-2009 11:10pm

I just don't want Tony Blair to represent me in any way,shape or form - the man makes my skin crawl.

Dinner · 30-10-2009 11:13pm

phasers wrote: »

I just don't want Tony Blair to represent me in any way,shape or form - the man makes my skin crawl.

The President of the European Council doesn't/won't represent you. And it looking less and less likely that Blair will get the job anyway.

phasers · 30-10-2009 11:16pm

Dinner wrote: »

The President of the European Council doesn't/won't represent you. And it looking less and less likely that Blair will get the job anyway.

What do they do then? I assumed EU leaders represented EU citizens in world politics...

manutd · 30-10-2009 11:19pm

phasers wrote: »

What do they do then? I assumed EU leaders represented EU citizens in world politics...

I don't get the point of this thread. Everyone should care about the treaty.

Dinner · 30-10-2009 11:20pm

phasers wrote: »

What do they do then? I assumed EU leaders represented EU citizens in world politics...

The position is probably best described as the Ceann Comhairle of the European Council. Chairs meetings etc but has very little, if any, input into the actual decisions. Whoever gets picked as President of the Council may travel around to other countries a bit more than anyone in the current system, but they will only be acting on the authority and decisions of the actual council.

The whole Blair thing was blown out of proportion, mostly by British and English Language media. Most of them couldn't even get the title of the position correct!

phasers · 30-10-2009 11:23pm

Dinner wrote: »

The position is probably best described as the Ceann Comhairle of the European Council. Chairs meetings etc but has very little, if any, input into the actual decisions. Whoever gets picked as President of the Council may travel around to other countries a bit more than anyone in the current system, but they will only be acting on the authority and decisions of the actual council.

The whole Blair thing was blown out of proportion, mostly by British and English Language media. Most of them couldn't even get the title of the position correct!

Cheers for that, I was never really clear on the whole president thing.