Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Lesbian scenes on tv...new trend?

  • 30-10-2009 1:41am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭


    What's up with all the recent hot lesbo action on tv???? :confused:

    Heroes, Flash Forward, Gossip Girl....is this the in thing now and ratings grabber?
    Hey!....i don't mind a bit of hot girl-on-girl action from time to time but damn!....overload much?

    :rolleyes:


Comments

  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,160 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    shoot my load much?
    Fixed your post.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Fixed your post.

    :eek: a gentleman would never say that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    lesbian and gay scenes are in no way new to television... just because it's only recently started happening in the kids shows, you've been watching, doesn't mean it hasn't been going on in grown up programmes for years...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Kids shows???....i've watched Nip/Tuck on occasion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    I reckon the Lesbo trend is a far second to the shows about people in hospitals trend.

    Christ all mighty, you could save the money on your tv licence by just walking around your local hospiotal


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,881 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    I've watched 2 episodes of Fair City (last week) and they're at it too.

    (no idea how long there's been a lesbian couple in it though)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    irish_goat wrote: »
    I've watched 2 episodes of Fair City (last week) and they're at it too.

    (no idea how long there's been a lesbian couple in it though)

    Not long. Few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭J-blk


    hot girl-on-girl action

    Gretchen in Heroes looks like a mangled foot...

    Hardly a new thing TBH, Buffy had the whole Willow/Tara thing years ago (one of the first shows - or the first? - to actually have a lesbian kiss in a prime time show) and over the years there have been others from time to time.

    And I wouldn't call it a "trend" - I've only noticed it in two shows (well, three since you mentioned Gossip Girl which I don't watch) and there are how many "dramas" on at the moment? Easily > 25...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,413 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Give them what the men want! ;)

    It's not new whatsoever. It's just less looked down on at it once was.

    I remember when Anna Friel's character came out as a lesbian on Brookside, and they had a lesbian kiss on-screen. And there was a massive uproar.. how times have changed!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    J-blk wrote: »
    Gretchen in Heroes looks like a mangled foot...


    She has my full support in her venture to deflower Clare though ;)


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Eastenders had sapphic stuff 20 years ago, Brookside dabbled not just with Anna Friels character but also a weird "almost three way" relationship between Lindsey Corkhill, her mother and Shelley (but that was in its latter period when Brookie went a bit Pete Tong).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Well scissor me timbers! :eek:

    Just for ratings, I s'pose. If they were real lezzers, they wouldn't be as hot and dolled up. (not to say real lezzers don't/aren't...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    I think it's to appeal to the demographics. Pretty much every show has the minority groups represented in some token form.

    For comedies it tends to be gay men

    For dramas it tends to be gay women

    I think it's because men acting effeminate tends to be found funny, but because it's a comedy there won't be much need for pillow talk and kissing (which doesn't really appeal to either women or men)

    Whereas for dramas, lesbians can be taken more seriously and in regards to being physical, men have a fascination with it and women tend to not really mind it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    J-blk wrote: »
    Gretchen in Heroes looks like a mangled foot..

    She looked alright when banging Hank Moody on Californication.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    She looked alright when banging Hank Moody on Californication.

    Which episode ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,413 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    KTRIC wrote: »
    Which episode ??
    She was a fairly major character in the 1st and 2nd season.. but got her puppies out in the very first episode IIRC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    This should make you have RD - coming up in 90210
    Why should Gossip Girl be the only primetime soap having a gay ‘ol time experimenting with its characters sexuality? This January, 90210 will embark on a major same-sex storyline that will pair the show’s token lesbian, Gia, played by Rumer Willis, with another major (and heretofore straight) female character.

    “This isn’t a fling,” insists executive producer Rebecca Sinclair. “We’re coming at this [relationship] from a genuine place and not going, ‘Let’s do a titillating story that will grab some promotion.’ This is a real aspect of teenager life that’s interesting… And there’s been a real void in the 90210 universe in terms of gay and bisexual characters.”
    Yeah, yeah… let’s get the big question: Who will Demi’s daughter coax out of the closet and into her loving arms? The answer’s after the jump!
    Nope, it’s not Naomi — it’s teenage mom Adrianna!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    ^ another one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭anotherlostie


    You obviously never watched the Wire. That was sex, not two women smooching while fully clothed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    It's since men started watching soaps. Seriously, what the hell guys!


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    didnt will and grace have a gay caracter, i never watched it but wasnt will gay in that, and wasnt it a comedy,

    shows that have gay/lesbo caracters, entourgae/llyod, friends/carol, the l word/most of the cast,

    ah hell here the wiki link with shows that have gay/lesbo caracters
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_shows_with_LGBT_characters


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Sheesh! Even "Home & Away" had a lesbian trying to turn a straight woman........wouldn't have minded, only the straight one is fairly hot, and whatever about people (or their characters) who are already "of that persuasion, that would have been a waste/loss to the male population!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    J-blk wrote: »
    Hardly a new thing TBH, Buffy had the whole Willow/Tara thing years ago (one of the first shows - or the first? - to actually have a lesbian kiss in a prime time show) and over the years there have been others from time to time.

    The first lesbian kiss on American tv was in 1991 in LA Law. It wasn't exactly full on tongue action, but it was certainly a romantic kiss which lingered a little.



    I think Buffy had the first lesbian kiss between two recurring characters, who were actually in a relationship with each other. So the kiss was a natural part of an on-going storyline rather than a sweeps time ratings grabber.

    First gay kiss on a UK soap were in 1987 on Eastenders with Colin Russel and Barry Clark, though it was just a peck, it was 1989 before they showed any lingering mouth to mouth kissing between Colin and his new boyfriend Guido. And it was pre-watershed.

    The first lesbian kiss on British tv was a BBC serial of DH Lawrences’ The Rainbow, where Winifred (Kate Buffery) and Ursula (Imogen Stubbs) kissed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Meeja Ireland


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    I think it's to appeal to the demographics. Pretty much every show has the minority groups represented in some token form.

    For comedies it tends to be gay men

    For dramas it tends to be gay women

    I think it's because men acting effeminate tends to be found funny, but because it's a comedy there won't be much need for pillow talk and kissing (which doesn't really appeal to either women or men)

    Whereas for dramas, lesbians can be taken more seriously and in regards to being physical, men have a fascination with it and women tend to not really mind it.

    That's a really interesting analysis. It's definitely true that female nudity tends to boost sales, whereas male nudity tends to depress them. You're making a larger point, obviously, and I think it's a convicing one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    What I think is the most interesting about this is the trend of portrayal of gay men as effeminate. It seems that on tv in the 80's and early 90's openly gay men were more often than not just ordinary guys who were gay. Yes before that we had camp characters like John Inman, where their homosexuality was inferred with lots innuendo but once characters were openly gay they were mainly ordinary men like Colin in Eastender or Steven in Dynasty.

    From the mid-late 90's we started seeing more male gay characters but they more often than not flamboyant, bitchy queens who flounce about with their fag hags. It's made gay men into a fashion accessory for modern women. Especially on American network tv.

    Is it that a lot of "liberal" straight men can easily accept gay men if they are flaming? But the thought that an average joe who dresses like you and talks about sports is gay is frightening?

    I've met plenty of incredibly camp gay men, obviously they exist. But most of the gay men I've met are just ordinary guys. They aren't particularly fashionable, they don't gossip about celebrities, you would never know they were gay unless they told you. And in the past that seemed to be what gay men on tv were like but now the majority are comedy camp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    there won't be much need for pillow talk and kissing (which doesn't really appeal to either women or men)

    Sorry but you are wrong, so very, very wrong. It's not true of every women but a huge amount of WOMEN LOVE WATCHING GUYS GET IT ON.

    I first realised this in 1996 when Fair City featured it's near kiss between Eoin and some other guy. I was so turned on by it, I wondered if possibly I was a bit weird. (Being turned on by anything on Fair City as much as anything else.:o) But why wouldn't a woman enjoy watching two nice looking guys. 4 years later I was discussing Queer as Folk with another woman when we started discussing just how bloody hot watching two (or more) men together is and it was confirmed that I was not weird, just honest.

    When Brokeback Mountain was released more women started admitting just how exciting they find watching men have sex. But the real moment I started to realise just how ordinary it is for women to enjoy watching men was when the promos for Torchwwod S2 clearly showed Jack and Spike snogging. Women of the internet seemed to collectively cream our panties. It's generally accepted that Torchwwod S1 = crap. Torchwood S2 = mostly crap, but has John and Jack snogging so massively redeemed and actually quite excellent. Torchwood S3 = brilliant all by itself, also sexy Ianto and Jack snogging so double win.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    iguana wrote: »

    The first lesbian kiss on British tv was a BBC serial of DH Lawrences’ The Rainbow, where Winifred (Kate Buffery) and Ursula (Imogen Stubbs) kissed.

    Not true! It was 1974 a BBC play from a series called Second City Firsts (Birmingham based dramas I presume) called Girl with Alison Steadman and Myra Frances


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭norbert64


    Another one for the list.
    Pr0nstar Savanna Samson in last weeks 30 rock.

    there was also a scene in the new Melrose Place
    and another in Eastwick between Sara Rue and Lindsay Price

    and if you're that way inclined, there was an animated scene in the pilot eppy of The Cleveland Show :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    ^ savnana samson is hot!....gotta be a YT video to go with that!


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    iguana wrote: »
    Is it that a lot of "liberal" straight men can easily accept gay men if they are flaming? But the thought that an average joe who dresses like you and talks about sports is gay is frightening?

    I've met plenty of incredibly camp gay men, obviously they exist. But most of the gay men I've met are just ordinary guys. They aren't particularly fashionable, they don't gossip about celebrities, you would never know they were gay unless they told you.

    Personally speaking, I'd be the opposite; I don't have any issue with someone being gay, but OTT "flaming" / campness annoys the bejaysus out of me (e.g. including Russell Brand, who is - apparently - straight).

    Likewise overly "butch" women.

    So if they don't match those two stereotypes, no problem.

    But maybe I'm not representative....I dunno.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    too many lesbo scenes on tv need more gay scenes come on when is mcdreamy and mcsteamy hooking up and playing doctors with each other :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    MORE!...this week alone there have been two more HOT lesbo scenes!....one on Melrose Place while the latest ep. had another HOT scene on Stargate Universe....like

    .....what the hell?, lets predict what other shows will have HOT lesbo scenes, Vampire Diaries for sure...i expect V will have a HOT scene with lizard babe Laura VanderHOT and a sexy human chick soon!

    :-)


Advertisement