The posthuman God.

briany

The posthuman God theory has it's roots in science fiction/futurism. The theory states that a sentient species undergoing continous technological advancement will one day become so powerful as to become God with power over all time and space and reality/realities. This would take the form of a technological singularity whereby a species like humankind leaves their physical bodies and becoming an all powerful hive mind or creating an all powerful artificial intelligence with the power to influence all of existence.

What is the opinion of the feasability of such a "God" that would have sprung from the MATERIAL universe? Is it even whackier than conventional wisdom??

Turtwig

It's not a theory : here's the proof!!

Poor Creationists!

CerebralCortex

Care to point us in to a source on this "theory" of a post human god? I'm a transhumanist and from what I know all you're doing is speculating. Humans may become powerful indeed but actually becoming God with a capital G... ...well it depends how you define that "G"od?

CerebralCortex

Malty_T wrote: »

It's not a theory : here's the proof!!

Ascension turned a perfectly good sci-fi series into complete shìte!

briany

Malty_T wrote: »

It's not a theory : here's the proof!!

He looks a little fruity. Are we saying the theory is a little fruity?

CerebralCortex

briany wrote: »

He looks a little fruity. Are we saying the theory is a little fruity?

Which theory!?!?!? We take the word very seriously in here!

Turtwig

CerebralCortex wrote: »

Ascension turned a perfectly good sci-fi series into complete shìte!

Nah, the ascension story was quite good up until the blasted Ori were introduced then it became shyte.

robindch

Q - is that u?

briany

CerebralCortex wrote: »

Care to point us in to a source on this "theory" of a post human god? I'm a transhumanist and from what I know all you're doing is speculating. Humans may become powerful indeed but actually becoming God with a capital G... ...well it depends how you define that "G"od?

Doesn't "G"od have a capital G? Oh I'm sorry,I guess I should only use when specifically naming someone? Will I go back and correct that? Maybe I was subconciously using a capital G for more "G"ravitas.....

CerebralCortex

Malty_T wrote: »

Nah, the ascension story was quite good up until the blasted Ori were introduced then it became shyte.

It was Bullsh!t all along it turned if from weak sci-fi to pure fantasy!

briany

Care to point us in to a source on this "theory" of a post human god?

I should not use the word theory, it's clearly a sensitive word. Let's just say an idea that I'm throwing up for discussion.

Anyway, from Wikipedia on "Conceptions of god/God(?)/"G"od(?):

A Posthuman God is a hypothetical future entity descended from or created by humans, but possessing capabilities so radically exceeding those of present humans as to appear godlike. One common variation of this idea is the belief or aspiration that humans will create a God entity emerging from an artificial intelligence. Another variant is the hypothesis that humanity will create or evolve into a posthuman God by itself; for some examples, see technological singularity, and omega point.

Goduznt Xzst

reminds me of Isaac Asimovs "The last question"

Nice to see it's linked in that wiki article: Conceptions of God

But if you are actually looking for serious answers in regards to it's feasibility we currently do not have enough information about reality to even postulate on such a thing.

"INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER".

briany

That's a great story, really makes you wonder......

Flamed Diving

No, homo sapiens should be long extinct before this time period you are talking about arrives.

Turtwig

Flamed Diving wrote: »

No, homo sapiens should be long extinct before this time period you are talking about arrives.

Well d'uh, we gonna have wait for alot of evolution to take place:p

Goduznt Xzst

Flamed Diving wrote: »

No, homo sapiens should be long extinct before this time period you are talking about arrives.

Correct, homo sapiens will be extinct as they will be replaced by Homo Superior

Flamed Diving

Careful now...

Zillah

Flamed Diving wrote: »

No, homo sapiens should be long extinct before this time period you are talking about arrives.

Should? I think we've found a new super villain lads.

Anyway, I've never bought into this notion that humanity is just another species and will fade away like any other. There is nothing fundamentally impossible about the notion of a human-descended species bowling stars into black holes ten million years from now (obviously I'm being facetious about the exact technology). Once/if we get established on several different planets spread around the galaxy there are very few things that can lead to an extinction event. Two possibilities; a very very poorly handled super plague (or nanite grey-goo scenario) or an intelligent technologically advanced aggressor.

EDIT: Spelling, grr.

PDN

Actually, guys, what you are discussing in this thread is basically Mormonism with a bit of scientific jargon tacked on. Make sure you wear your sacred underwear beneath your space suits.

CerebralCortex

PDN wrote: »

Actually, guys, what you are discussing in this thread is basically Mormonism with a bit of scientific jargon tacked on. Make sure you wear your sacred underwear beneath your space suits.

You sure its not Christianity minus the superstition?

sink

Zillah wrote: »

Should? I think we've found a new super villain lads.

Anyway, I've never bought into this notion that humanity is just another species and will fade away like any other. There is nothing fundamentally impossible about the notion of a human-descended species bowling stars into black holes ten million years from now (obviously I'm being facetious about the exact technology). Once/if we get established on several different planets spread around the galaxy there are very few things that can lead to an extinction event. Two possibilities; a very very poorly handled super plague (or nanite grey-goo scenario) or an intelligent technologically advanced aggressor.

Or a supernova within our local group of stars.

Turtwig

sink wrote: »

Or a supernova within our local group of stars.

Nah, none close enough.

Zillah

sink wrote: »

Or a supernova within our local group of stars.

You missed the part where I specified "spread around the galaxy". This was specifically to render us immune to any massive event, such as a supernova, blackhole formation or gamma ray burst. Any one of those could wipe out life in several solar systems, but there is no phenomena, either confirmed or hypothesized, that could render planets on other ends of the galaxy lifeless simultaneously.

EDIT: Spelling again. Double grr. Don't post while sleepy.

Turtwig

Zillah wrote: »

but there is no phenomena, either confirmed or hypothesized, that could render planets on other ends of the galaxy lifeless simultaneously.

God:)

Zillah

Bad dum, tsh.

Flamed Diving

Zillah wrote: »

Should? I think we've found a new super villain lads.

Anyway, I've never bought into this notion that humanity is just another species and will fade away like any other. There is nothing fundamentally impossible about the notion of a human-descended species bowling stars into black holes ten million years from now (obviously I'm being facetious about the exact technology). Once/if we get established on several different planets spread around the galaxy there are very few things that can lead to an extinction event. Two possibilities; a very very poorly handled super plague (or nanite grey-goo scenario) or an intelligent technologically advanced aggressor.

EDIT: Spelling, grr.

Well, nothing is fundamentally impossible. You could throw any ridiculous scenario together and given enough time/space it will happen. There are many other reasonable extinction scenarios, such as nuclear war, gamma rays, poisoning of planet, massive comet/asteroid, etc. These are not highly improbable events. Given a not unreasonable amount of time, they seem very likely.

Goduznt Xzst

Zillah wrote: »

there is no phenomena, either confirmed or hypothesized, that could render planets on other ends of the galaxy lifeless simultaneously.

briany

Guy looks familiar. Would I right in assuming that he is from Marvel comics or some other equally fantastical work of fiction? *snigger*:pac:

Goduznt Xzst

briany wrote: »

Guy looks familiar. Would I right in assuming that he is from Marvel comics or some other equally fantastical work of fiction? *snigger*:pac:

:eek: How do people not recognize this guy? If I'd posted a picture of the silver surfer you'd of recognized him instantly. Well this guy is the Silver Surfers boss, Galactus... and he will kill us all, Stan Lee 3:16

CerebralCortex

Goduznt Xzst wrote: »

:eek: How do people not recognize this guy? If I'd posted a picture of the silver surfer you'd of recognized him instantly. Well this guy is the Silver Surfers boss, Galactus... and he will kill us all, Stan Lee 3:16

Devourer of worlds!

Turtwig

Let's not forget this chap either..