Query about "Future Classic"

bbam

PLease excuse me if this has been covered before...

If I was to buy an early 1980's car... like this one

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1022825


Can I garage it until it's 30 years old, then register it on a ZV plate and enjoy classic insurance & tax..

Thanks
bam

ikillcopiers

There should be no problems with that, a friend of my father's who had a capri out back for a few
years and registered it when it became vintage.

It will most likely go to the month it was registered however, so if the car was originally registered
in October, you'd have to wait till October 2010 or later to bring it in without paying the VRT.

As long as the government decide to leave the vintage system as is that is, they changed in the UK a while
back and now it's only cars before 1972 that can have vintage status over there.

MercMad

You should have no trouble, folk do it all the time.Just ensure you get the FULL V5 from the UK owner, and bear in mind that strictly speaking an Irish resident cannot drive a foreign registered car.......EVER ! ( few exceptions - hire car, company car etc..)

So you are therefore supposed to bring the foreign car to the VRT office within 24 hours to re-register it.

Thats the law but you wont get stopped if you arent driving it.

Happy hunting.

Henry Ford III

Yep.

Change the oil at least once a year, and start and drive it 2 weekly (even up and down the driveway).

corktina

can you do it? yes of course.Are you SUPPOSED to do it? No. Done it myself though

macplaxton

MercMad wrote: »

Just ensure you get the FULL V5 from the UK owner.

Yes, The seller will want to keep the front page with all the vitals and try to give you the green section (V5C/2) as this the usual procedure for a UK sale.

However, the situation is different for exports.

What to do if you are selling your vehicle privately to someone who does not have a GB address

You should fill in sections 6 and 10 with the new keeper’s name and address. Both you and the new keeper (buyer) must sign and date the declaration in section 8. Give the whole V5C to the new keeper to aid registration abroad.
You should then send a signed letter to DVLA, Swansea, SA99 1AG giving the vehicle’s registration number, the make and model of the vehicle, the date of sale or transfer, and the name and address of the new keeper.
Once we know about the change of keeper, you should receive an acknowledgement letter to confirm that you are no longer responsible for
the vehicle. If you do not receive the letter within 20 working days, please phone 0870 240 0010. If you are deaf or hard of hearing and have access to a textphone, phone 01792 766426 (this number will not respond to ordinary phones).

If the seller doesn't have a clue (most don't), show them page 8/16 of DVLA leaflet INS 160 (click for pdf copy)

overdriver

You can always just write to DVLA Swansea for a certificate of permanent export which works just as well.

corktina

or weven just take in whatever youve got when re-registering it.....I re-reg'd my taunus using a photocopy of the papers from France used by the UK authorities to register it there....it had the date of first reg on it and the chassis number and they dont need a lot else...

a_v525

You cant register it on ZV Plates, they'll give you a 81 D 1234 reg, those lucky cars goin around wit zv plates are the true irish classics, you can spot imports cuz they have modern-style plates, govt changed to new system round 87 as i recall. My dad has a 75 merc 220d with the reg " 75 KE " not zv.

Was wondering though, if you register a classic car, can you chose the reg for free?? eg: 1982 bmw 316, can you ask em for 82 D 316 or will they just give you a random one? I know you can book new 2010 plates for next year by paying €1000, but do you still need to pay that if you wanna choose your reg on a classic?

carchaeologist

a_v525 wrote: »

You cant register it on ZV Plates, they'll give you a 81 D 1234 reg, those lucky cars goin around wit zv plates are the true irish classics, you can spot imports cuz they have modern-style plates, govt changed to new system round 87 as i recall. My dad has a 75 merc 220d with the reg " 75 KE " not zv.

ZV plates are for imports lad.Any other Z or I plate apart from a ZZ is an original pre 1987 registration.

[/quote]
Was wondering though, if you register a classic car, can you chose the reg for free?? eg: 1982 bmw 316, can you ask em for 82 D 316 or will they just give you a random one? I know you can book new 2010 plates for next year by paying €1000, but do you still need to pay that if you wanna choose your reg on a classic?[/quote]

No,you get the next in line.You just pay your VRT.

chiefwiggum

a_v525 wrote: »

You cant register it on ZV Plates, they'll give you a 81 D 1234 reg, those lucky cars goin around wit zv plates are the true irish classics, you can spot imports cuz they have modern-style plates, govt changed to new system round 87 as i recall. My dad has a 75 merc 220d with the reg " 75 KE " not zv.

Was wondering though, if you register a classic car, can you chose the reg for free?? eg: 1982 bmw 316, can you ask em for 82 D 316 or will they just give you a random one? I know you can book new 2010 plates for next year by paying €1000, but do you still need to pay that if you wanna choose your reg on a classic?

to pick your plates is 1000 squid i just tried it on my golf..i just laughed and said i think i'll give it a miss

a_v525

Ah, seem to be corrected, my bad. Must ask the father next time why the fudge he chose a 75 reg instead of a zv. yeah, i dunno, was thinkin if you saved the money by only payin €50 on vrt, you could use the saved vrt money to splash out & book the 81 d 316. would look cooler than zv 12345. What do ye think?

carchaeologist

a_v525 wrote: »

Ah, seem to be corrected, my bad. Must ask the father next time why the fudge he chose a 75 reg instead of a zv. yeah, i dunno, was thinkin if you saved the money by only payin €50 on vrt, you could use the saved vrt money to splash out & book the 81 d 316. would look cooler than zv 12345. What do ye think?

81D316 is long gone,registered about 22 years ago,it was on a Golf 1.5 that was last taxed in 1994.

Incidentally 86C316 is on a BMW 316,it was parked in a back road down in macroom near a pub called MaryAnnes i think.The car is still taxed.Pretty cool to get a reg like that on an import.:)

a_v525

yeah just using that as an example. your man musta forked out €1000 for it, but imo, if youre hangin onto the car, itd be worth it

carchaeologist

a_v525 wrote: »

yeah just using that as an example. your man musta forked out €1000 for it, but imo, if youre hangin onto the car, itd be worth it

Its a hell of alot of money.This was posted here before,its one of the best of the old style regs iv ever seen.


You dont get much better than that.:D

ikillcopiers

Those nice numbers are called "Cherished" plates if I remember correctly.

They can only be got on cars after 1992/1993 (not sure on the exact year),
I remember trying to get one for my 1987 944, but the boy in Rosslare
told me you can't go back that far unfortunately.

And the 1000 is for all fancy numbers too, wanted one for my 1999 S8
(was gonna get 99 G 58 - it's still available too dammit!)
but it's hard to justify a quarter of the cars purchase price on a plate!

a_v525

Aww carchaeologist, that car is SWEET!!!!! I love 80s 6 series bmws. Would sell my girlfriend for one!! How do you reckon he got the csi 633 plate??? I didnt think you could get reg plates like that in Irl?

carchaeologist

a_v525 wrote: »

Aww carchaeologist, that car is SWEET!!!!! I love 80s 6 series bmws. Would sell my girlfriend for one!! How do you reckon he got the csi 633 plate??? I didnt think you could get reg plates like that in Irl?

Well,back in September 1982 someone was waiting in a Motor tax office somewhere in Dublin for that number to become availible,thats probably all it took.
It was possible,pre 1987, to legally transfer old numbers onto new cars then too,providing the original car was scrapped. GTI 1 and GTI 2 are MK1 Golf GTIs,GTI 205 is a Peugout 205 GTI,these were originally mid 60s limerick county issues. Cant do it now though,well,not legally anyway.

Dont think your GF would appriciate being traded for a 6 series...:)

PaulK_CCI

a_v525 wrote: »

Aww carchaeologist, that car is SWEET!!!!! I love 80s 6 series bmws. Would sell my girlfriend for one!! How do you reckon he got the csi 633 plate??? I didnt think you could get reg plates like that in Irl?

It was actually common practice in the very early eighties (mainly 80-81-82), for Dealerships rather than private individuals to claim certain numbers for their cars: the Mercedes guys, took hold of the numbers 500, 350 and 280 for example, Porsche had a few cars with 911 in the reg number, I myself owned a Saab 900 with "900 AZL" as the reg, and ofcourse the BMW's had 525, 635 and 633.

I have to agree though with charcheologist: they don't come better than the "CSI 633" plate, but I do believe there was a "CSI 635" as well !!

carchaeologist

PaulK_CCI wrote: »

Porsche had a few cars with 911 in the reg number

Like so..

And this is GTI 1,i didnt take this pic,it was mailed to me,so i dont know anymore about the car.

MercMad

I actually used to be sent into the Reg Office in Dublin to wait for a certain number to come up. You just basically phoned every day 'till you knew it would be coming the next day and went in in person and asked to be informed when the number came up.

Some of the dealers who did it all the time had it down to a fine art and had contacts and could do it over the phone, but if two people wanted the number the person who was at the desk got it !

There were lots of cool numbers/sequences. If a specific number wasn't possible garages would try to get a cool reg. for a car if it was any way unique, reg's with triple digits for example, like 111 and the like.

After the rules changed in '87 you could still do this with no extra charge. It was only with the VRT introduction that the cost was applied.

turbocabrio

Hi folks'
I was lucky then i got my 944 turbo reg 2 years ago for 315euro. Not tobad a reg for a 944. 91d 48 944.

a_v525

Dont think your GF would appriciate being traded for a 6 series...

I think she'd understand....

Yeah, thanks for the replies guys, I didnt know it was possible. Ah, to be young in the 80s!!!

That 944 reg is cool for only €315, was thinkin of importin a early 80s 924, then I could get 8x CE 924. I'd frikkin love that. Hard to justify the cost tho... will think about it