Out-of-body experiences explained.

The_Minister · 29-10-2009 12:50am #1

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427291.100-out-of-your-head-leaving-the-body-behind.html

So this is cool, we now have a good idea of what causes oob experiences, and we can artificially trigger one.

wudangclan · 29-10-2009 10:25am

there has been a joint experiment running in american and british hospitals ,since last year,whereby they hide some artwork in an alcove in the hospital room and people undergoing operations are told if they have an outer body experience to check out the artwork and when they come back describe it.
no success so far ,i believe.

netanyahu · 29-10-2009 6:06pm

why would you waste your time trying to prove it to the doctors by checking out their probably-****-artwork if you can go anywhere you want! let them believe what they want!

wudangclan · 30-10-2009 10:30am

because they are trying to determine if these are actual 'out of body experiences' or if they take place in the imaginations of the patients.

A Neurotic · 30-10-2009 2:21pm

netanyahu wrote: »

why would you waste your time trying to prove it to the doctors by checking out their probably-****-artwork if you can go anywhere you want! let them believe what they want!

I'm thanking this post purely because I love your signature.

Carry on.

netanyahu · 30-12-2009 11:13pm

bit of a late reply but thanks neurotic

ps . how do i thanks a post? is there a thread about it? bit confused!!!

studiorat · 16-01-2010 12:51am

Reading Oliver Sacks "Musicophilia" at the moment. He gives accounts of similar. Frontal lobe seizures also trigger visual hallucinations in the form of lights surrounded by darkness as well as auditory hallucinations.

The thing is that these events are happening in the patients brain to the extent that the do actually seem real and as a result are life changing. The case he first talks about is an event that happened to a surgeon, it was so real to him that he refused to consider it as simply an hallucination even though he knew it was.

UnknownSpecies · 22-05-2010 1:29am

netanyahu wrote: »

bit of a late reply but thanks neurotic
ps . how do i thanks a post? is there a thread about it? bit confused!!!

Click on the thumbs up button on the very far right of the post

Yakult · 28-05-2010 12:49am

I had one just 3 weeks ago, trying to remember as much as I can. But in my room I suddenly awoke completly paralyzed only to see something I could only describle as a green monster just walking out my door. I got up only too see "me" still on the bed. At the point I just went back to bed. Scared ****less afterwards to begging for more!!

Pygmalion · 30-05-2010 8:52pm

R_H_C_P wrote: »

I had one just 3 weeks ago, trying to remember as much as I can. But in my room I suddenly awoke completly paralyzed only to see something I could only describle as a green monster just walking out my door. I got up only too see "me" still on the bed. At the point I just went back to bed. Scared ****less afterwards to begging for more!!

Sounds like it could also be Sleep Paralysis.

From the wiki article:

In addition, the paralysis may be accompanied by terrifying hallucinations (hypnopompic or hypnagogic) and an acute sense of danger.
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Some scientists have proposed this condition as an explanation for alien abductions and ghostly encounters.

As for the link with OOB:

Many perceptions associated with sleep paralysis (visceral buzzing, loud sounds, adrenal mental state, presences, and the paralysis itself) also constitute a common phase in the early progression of episodes referred to as out of body experiences.

profitius · 19-07-2010 8:38pm

I love the way the mainstream scientists - those with the closed minds - try to make out these things as being hallucinations etc. It's been proven beyond doubt that theres something supernatural going on but scientists just ignore evidence or explain it away.

A Neurotic · 19-07-2010 8:38pm

profitius wrote: »

I love the way the mainstream scientists - those with the closed minds - try to make out these things as being hallucinations etc. It's been proven beyond doubt that theres something supernatural going on but scientists just ignore evidence or explain it away.

How so? Any evidence handy?

profitius · 19-07-2010 8:43pm

I've heard accounts of people who saw things that they couldn't possible have seen and heard conversations etc. Actually many doctors who were mainstream in their thinking now believe in life after death as a result.

Ponster · 23-07-2010 10:34pm

profitius wrote: »

It's been proven beyond doubt that theres something supernatural going on but scientists just ignore evidence or explain it away.

I don't know how often you post in this forum profitius but you'll need to post a cite/link to back up such a claim.

briscotti · 09-02-2011 7:25pm

profitius wrote: »

I love the way the mainstream scientists - those with the closed minds - try to make out these things as being hallucinations etc. It's been proven beyond doubt that theres something supernatural going on but scientists just ignore evidence or explain it away.

i wouldn't use the term supernatural to describe it as I believe it is completely natural. You should look up 'DMT'.