Arsenal - Sat 30th Oct

RichMc70

I seriously think we are going to find it hard at the Library MkII, this saturday.

NO Lennon, Defoe, Modric, Woodgate plus the ever constant worry of 'will Ledley break down' throughout the match.

This is starting 11, I think is most probable.....

Gomes

Corluka Bassong King BAE

Bentley Palacios Hudd Krancjar

Keane Crouch

It's also possible that Harry may play one up front and bring Jenas in for a five man midfield, which would probably see Robbie on the bench. Either way there's no pace, which going to leave us with a very blunt attack.

Ever the pessimist :rolleyes:, I can't see us taking anything from this game. If we can get a draw, I'd be delighted.

everdead.ie

crouch is injured isn't he will he be fit on sat?
could see an interesting line up of

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Gomes
Córluka King Bassong BAE

Bently Hudd Palacios Bale

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Kranjcar

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Keane

Seeing as Pav wasn't great yesterday and we'd outnumber and outmuscle them in midfield this way
Jenas has a calf strain so I think he'll start on the bench
Maybe a couple of kids hutton and pav on the bench too

StillRickyVilla

I have a nasty feeling that the wheels are coming off.

The injuries/suspensions are mounting up and we just don't have top-class quality back-up. Pav, Crouch, Bale, Bentley - who-ever - they are not good enough to go to the Emirates and pull off a result.

If we go there and attack our first 11 would have had a shout but as we don't have our normal strike-force we will get stuffed. If we go there and defend we'll get thumped anyway.

Im in pessimistic mode and a win at home to tired/under-strength Everton in the Carling Cup doesnt change that.

Comfortable win for the scum 3-0 (would be delighted if proven otherwise!)

Mr. Guappa

I'd go with Jenas over Huddlestone, we will need his energy in the centre of the park. If Crouch is out I would go with Kranjcar in the hole and Bale on the left. We have the best away record in the league and while Arsenal can be irresistible at times they will also switch off at times, i.e. West Ham at the weekend, Champs League last week and at Old Trafford earlier in the season. If we avoid stupid mistakes we are well capable of coming away with 3 points.

mickman

everyone here said we would beat stoke -we lost

everyone here is saying arsenal will win so the contrarian in me says we will win!!

in all seriousness i think we will get a kicking here. arshavin will eat slow corluka for his lunch, fabregas will glide past huddlestone as if he wasnt there

van persie will score 2 with his pace

3-1 to arsenal

mushykeogh

Park the bus harry!

BOLT

StillRickyVilla wrote: »

I have a nasty feeling that the wheels are coming off.

The injuries/suspensions are mounting up and we just don't have top-class quality back-up. Pav, Crouch, Bale, Bentley - who-ever - they are not good enough to go to the Emirates and pull off a result.

If we go there and attack our first 11 would have had a shout but as we don't have our normal strike-force we will get stuffed. If we go there and defend we'll get thumped anyway.

Im in pessimistic mode and a win at home to tired/under-strength Everton in the Carling Cup doesnt change that.

Comfortable win for the scum 3-0 (would be delighted if proven otherwise!)

All internationals!

SuprSi

To be honest, I think we may even struggle to get a goal there without Lennon, Modric, or Defoe, especially if we resort to pumping it up to Crouch.

3 - 0 to Arsenal

everdead.ie

My worst fear is this could be an end to our top 4 ambitions especially with both villa and man city having a game in hand

StillRickyVilla

BOLT wrote: »

All internationals!

Ok.
Pav - too lightweight & not enough passion for English prem
Crouch - he is never going to be more than Plan B in any top side
Bale - we didn't win a game with him for 3 years (and Wales doesn't count!)
Bentley - your having a laugh?!

mickman

still ricky


we have won a game with bale in the side (recently, he came on a sub )
being light weight has nothing to do with being good in the premiership (look at modric) - lack of effort and passion is pavs problem
bentley- is a much better crosser then lennon will ever be

keane=cock

mickman wrote: »

still ricky


we have won a game with bale in the side (recently, he came on a sub )
being light weight has nothing to do with being good in the premiership (look at modric) - lack of effort and passion is pavs problem
bentley- is a much better crosser then lennon will ever be

think bentley, since he came to spurs, has been the least consistant and under performing than at any other stage in his career but that is a very fair comment. even his poor crosses are better than lennons good ones. think his confidence has taken a bashing. realy thought he would come good but so far no, he hasnt.

mickman

to be honest sat is his day. if he starts and delivers a few peaches on to crouchs head and has a good game then he has a chance of staying.

pav though is gone for sure. there is no saving that waster

StillRickyVilla

mickman wrote: »

still ricky


we have won a game with bale in the side (recently, he came on a sub )
being light weight has nothing to do with being good in the premiership (look at modric) - lack of effort and passion is pavs problem
bentley- is a much better crosser then lennon will ever be

Bale has been useless since he joined Spurs, either injured, off-form or too busy getting his hair-clip in place.

Bentley can cross it, but won't be allowed, he has nowhere near enough pace for the prem (i would rather trust Wenger's judgement than Commolli).

Same goes for Pav/Crouch - no pace - too easy to defend against, they belong in the 80's.

BOLT

StillRickyVilla wrote: »

Bale has been useless since he joined Spurs, either injured, off-form or too busy getting his hair-clip in place.

Bentley can cross it, but won't be allowed, he has nowhere near enough pace for the prem (i would rather trust Wenger's judgement than Commolli).

Same goes for Pav/Crouch - no pace - too easy to defend against, they belong in the 80's.

Now I know you're 'having a laugh'

BOLT

49 goals in 98 appearances for Liverpool....yep, dead easy to defend against, worthless lanky fecker.

And 18 goals in 35 appearances for England...

Indeed all those defenders must have been so happy to see crouch gangling on to the pitch..

keane=cock

StillRickyVilla wrote: »

Bentley can cross it, but won't be allowed, he has nowhere near enough pace for the prem (i would rather trust Wenger's judgement than Commolli).

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i have read somewhere that he is one of the quickest players in the league.think it was on that nike vapour add or something(the one where lennon raced against abonglahor)

Gamesnash.ie: Pat

Well I am absolutely certain we're going to win.

StillRickyVilla

BOLT wrote: »

49 goals in 98 appearances for Liverpool....yep, dead easy to defend against, worthless lanky fecker.

And 18 goals in 35 appearances for England...

Indeed all those defenders must have been so happy to see crouch gangling on to the pitch..

Look at it another way, can you really see Wenger ever having Crouch/Pav/Bentley & co as a starter in one of his teams? If you think he would well - fair play to you! (He got rid of Bentley for a start!)

I personally think Defoe, Modric & Lennon would definitely have a shout of making the Arsenal or any other Top 4 team.

Thats why Arse are strong favs on sat

p.s those Crouch statistics are inaccurate & annoying. Actually his PL goal statistics for Liverpool were 22 goals in 85 games, nearly 1 in every 4! In fact Crouch was never considered good enough to be a starter for Liverpool actually went 30-odd games for them before he scored! As for England did you research the teams that he scored all those goals against? I'll tell you - Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago, Andorra, Belarus, Macedonia, Greece, Estonia, Croatia, Hungary & Uruguay. The only other 'big' club Crouch has been at was Aston Villa where he was a disaster for 2 years and was farmed out on loan to Norwich City! Crouch's career goal ratio (as i posted up on here a few months ago) is much inferior to all of Defoe/Keane/Pav and Bent (who has since gone on to top the Prem scoring charts since we let him go). And on top of all of that - when Crouch plays, as I predicted, we tend to start throwing longer balls up to him rather than playing through midfield, making us look one-dimensional and predictable - if Stoke were able to suss it out, I'm sure Wenger will!
The media seem to love Crouch because he is a 'gangly lanky bloke done good', yet there is absolutely no evidence to support his inclusion in any top team (as a starter anyway).

ohnoigotsick

StillRickyVilla wrote: »

Look at it another way, can you really see Wenger ever having Crouch/Pav/Bentley & co as a starter in one of his teams? If you think he would well - fair play to you! (He got rid of Bentley for a start!)

I personally think Defoe, Modric & Lennon would definitely have a shout of making the Arsenal or any other Top 4 team.

Thats why Arse are strong favs on sat

wenger has his team playing a particular way - ie they have to almost walk the all into the net each time - the scum could do with having a player like pav

StillRickyVilla

ohnoigotsick wrote: »

wenger has his team playing a particular way - ie they have to almost walk the all into the net each time - the scum could do with having a player like pav

As much as it is painful to say, your a brave man to question the judgement of someone who has won 3 Premier Leagues (5 times Runners Up), 4 FA Cups, a UEFA Cup and a Champions League Runner Up. And all of that whilst playing almost a Brazil-like brand of football and spending far less than us in the transfer market!

p.s he's still a pa0do

Kold

Bentley is a f*cking sh*tter.

KingdomYid

get Huddlestone off that park,he is a soft boy and he is bricking it today.:mad:

dabbler2004

Thank god for half time, the last ten minutes have been a nightmare :mad:

KingdomYid

chokers always have been always will be i am afraid :mad:

mickman

well we are getting mauled again today.

this is the start of the rot people. our confidence will be very low after today unless we have an amazing second half

Dave11

As always lads with football its always about the next goal!!!

Don't write us off just yet!

Huddlestone has been very poor and Palacios looks tired AGAIN!!!

Look at the heads down coming out the tunnel! They nearly had to push Bassong back onto the pitch :mad:

StillRickyVilla

Who are we fecking Bolton, trying to break it up and hit Crouch's head with a set-piece...we got what we deserved. Scum showed their quality there.

Still its not all over, Arse do concede if we go for it 2nd half..

Dave11

Oh great is Gareth Bale!!!!

StillRickyVilla

Thats it, we never learn. I can't take any more of this, see yer later...i give up

dabbler2004

You wouldn't see this at schoolboy level :mad:

mickman

what happened for the 3rd goal, was it gomes or the defenders fault?

Dave11

You could argur that both of them should have got it cleared!!!

Bently has been so poor. I'm disgusted by his attitude! Out of the team for months, gets an oppurtunity and does nothing with it! He is prepared to sit on the bench and play a bit in the reserves for his chq!!! Get him out in January!!

I'm a big Robbie Keane fan but he looks so disinterested last few games! His record reads 5 in 11 this season but sure four of them were in one game so thats 9 without a goal!!! Not good enough!

Can someone please tell me when is Luka back???

mickman

luka is back next saturday for our game at home to sunderland

StillRickyVilla

Comprehensive 3 - 0 defeat. Most of us predicted that one.

Why is Harry & Co going on about what a great squad we've got? Its b0llox - as soon as we lose our main men, the back-up is just NOT good enough! I'll say it again, Crouch, Pav, Bentley, Bale etc etc etc are NOT good enough.

Unless Defoe, Modric & Lennon are back, and stay fit, quickly, we will quickly be sucked into mid-table.

Get rid of the crap & bring in some top-quality back-up in January. The scum had Walcott, Rosicky out today, but could still count on Van Persie & Arsevin! Their squad is on a different planet to ours!

mickman

it was 3-0. it should have been at least 4 to be honest. eduardo missed a sitter and we were lucky with other ones. we lost 3-0 to chelsea but actually played well and had chances, today we had nothing

our defense really is pathetic. king was shown up today as i thought he would be. crouch was just moping around and dont get me started on keane

BERBA

Only consolation is that all teams just below us drew or lost. imo first 3 spots nailed down , 4th spot up for grabs the way pool are playin. Anything less than 6 pts in next 2 games v sunderland and wigan and we can kiss it goodbye.

keane=cock

didnt see the match or the highlights yet but realisticly i didnt see us beating the ARSEnal but of the big four we really never looked like loosing to liverpool but theyare bein found out this season but against chelsea n man u we wee second best. r we put up a fight but conceded too many goals. 3 in all games!

we still have a bit to go to match them.

just imagine the speech fergie, ARSEne, n ancholliti(spellin) sayin :these boys think they are gonna finish in the top 4? lets make them prove they are as good as us. results dont lie. we are getting better, a lot better, but not there yet im afraid.

still

COME ON YOU SPURS

BOLT

keane=cock wrote: »

didnt see the match or the highlights yet but realisticly i didnt see us beating the ARSEnal but of the big four we really never looked like loosing to liverpool but theyare bein found out this season but against chelsea n man u we wee second best. r we put up a fight but conceded too many goals. 3 in all games!

we still have a bit to go to match them.

just imagine the speech fergie, ARSEne, n ancholliti(spellin) sayin :these boys think they are gonna finish in the top 4? lets make them prove they are as good as us. results dont lie. we are getting better, a lot better, but not there yet im afraid.

still

COME ON YOU SPURS

Thank **** for that last post!

Why some so called Spurs supporters here don't bugger off to support the Arse is beyond me.....

tippspur

We were lucky today that we weren't beaten by 5 or 6 tbh,Wilson gave away a bad ball and only for a great save by Gomes it would have ended up in the net,he wasen't so lucky the next time he gave one away because it did end up in the net.we really fell apart after the two quick goals up to that i thought we were going well.Pav looks like a man who doesn't give a ***t anymore and just wants out,.jesus you could go on and on about the crap that went on in this game but i haven't the energy.the next game can't come soon enough.:mad::mad:

mushykeogh

mickman wrote: »

luka is back next saturday for our game at home to sunderland

wont be back till late november according to harry.

markesmith

Come on boys, we were missing our three best players (Lennon, Modders and Defoe) and also Woodgate, who's an obvious first-teamer.

If Arsenal were missing Flabbergast, Arse-shaving, van Persie and the Chelsea mole, it wouldn't have been a 3-0 scoreline.

These derbies are always nervy affairs. Yeah, we were beaten pretty comprehensively, but we shouldn't be so up-and-down about our fortunes. Leave that to Liverpool.

That said, King needs to be looked at. Because he can't start every game, I think it gets in the way of us having a settled back four. And I don't know what Assou-Ekotto was at for the third goal, you play to the whistle, that's just elementary.

mickman

the 3rd goal was totally gomes fault. king was at the right side of van persie and had him covered. gomes went for the ball, his arms were out far enough but the ball went under them (crap goal keeping), his touch then sent the ball under kings legs and to van persie

on sat we will have woodie back who i think is our best CB by a mile. we will have lennon on the right,

StillRickyVilla

mickman wrote: »

the 3rd goal was totally gomes fault. king was at the right side of van persie and had him covered. gomes went for the ball, his arms were out far enough but the ball went under them (crap goal keeping), his touch then sent the ball under kings legs and to van persie

on sat we will have woodie back who i think is our best CB by a mile. we will have lennon on the right,

Yes, we need Woodgate back & fit alongside King - hopefully that bit of experience should eliminate some of the errors that have been creeping in. We will need Lennon back on the right. I can't see Bentley playing for Spurs again.