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Caught speeding

  • 27-10-2009 11:19pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭


    I was on my wway back from newry today and while overtaking a car on the M1 I seen the 2 flashes, when I looked down at the speedo I was approaching 140km/h so Im stung well and good.

    I was driving me mothers car and somebody told me that if they cant produce a picture to prove it was me it will be dropped, is this true??

    Also are there any speed traps northbound on the m1 because I was trying to make good time on the way up so my foot was quite heavy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    All they need to produce is a picture of the vehicle, which they can and will. Its up to the registered keeper of the vehicle to sign a declaration saying who was driving.

    There are (or were, you weren't flashed at the Dunleer/Collon interchange by any chance?) no fixed speed cameras working on the M1 at all but there are a few common spots for the GATSO vans. Which will even give you a picture of yourself driving, as they face the front of the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭ankles


    Jusy cos it flashed doesn't mean there was film in it (seriously). But they will do the driver or owner, so if your ma wants the points:D

    No traps northbound


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    ankles wrote: »
    Jusy cos it flashed doesn't mean there was film in it (seriously). But they will do the driver or owner, so if your ma wants the points:D

    No traps northbound
    No fixed cameras northbound but there is plenty of ANPR cars patrolling AFAIK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭ChristyCent


    MYOB wrote: »
    All they need to produce is a picture of the vehicle, which they can and will. Its up to the registered keeper of the vehicle to sign a declaration saying who was driving.

    There are (or were, you weren't flashed at the Dunleer/Collon interchange by any chance?) no fixed speed cameras working on the M1 at all but there are a few common spots for the GATSO vans. Which will even give you a picture of yourself driving, as they face the front of the car.

    I knew what me uncle said couldnt be right cos then everyone would be getting away with it.

    I didnt notice any vans parked up or anything but the flashes was definitely behind me and I was on the road markings (I was tired and it took my brain a few seconds to remember what they were for:o)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    kbannon wrote: »
    No fixed cameras northbound but there is plenty of ANPR cars patrolling AFAIK

    +1 AFAIK also (it's never on my mind to watch out for one on my way up) - what you Can see is traffic cars, not up on the Garda ramps, but the actual on ramps, waiting for people speeding past- very sneaky altogether - just not cricket:(- there is just one fixed camera southbound just before the suspension bridge - have seen it working or at least flashing, but thankfully not for me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Hrm, they might have fixed that camera. Its been completely busted for months if not years, and at last count its the only camera unit not incinerated I know of!

    But that doesn't mean it had any film in it - they're ye-olde analogue units.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭ChristyCent


    MYOB wrote: »
    But that doesn't mean it had any film in it - they're ye-olde analogue units.

    Im not as worried now as I was earlier at least theres a glimmer of hope.

    All the money I saved on booze and new clothes is probably gonna go to a damn fine now lol

    Are the ANPR vehicles not just for checking tax and insurance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Im not as worried now as I was earlier at least theres a glimmer of hope.

    All the money I saved on booze and new clothes is probably gonna go to a damn fine now lol

    Are the ANPR vehicles not just for checking tax and insurance?


    Yes, but they usually have a Garda hanging out the window with a hairdryer too. And then there are a fleet of vans with digital GATSO cameras in the boot, and also Guards with video cameras on tripods.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭ChristyCent


    MYOB wrote: »
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    Yes, but they usually have a Garda hanging out the window with a hairdryer too. And then there are a fleet of vans with digital GATSO cameras in the boot, and also Guards with video cameras on tripods.

    If I was caught speeding by one of them would I have been pulled in?

    I don't do much motorway/long distance driving so I'm pretty unfamiliar with these contraptions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    If I was caught speeding by one of them would I have been pulled in?

    I don't do much motorway/long distance driving so I'm pretty unfamiliar with these contraptions

    Hairdryer out the window: Yes
    either form of camera: No
    Fixed camera with the markings on the road: No (assuming its even fully working)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    That camera has been working recently, a few people I know have been stung by it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭ChristyCent


    draffodx wrote: »
    That camera has been working recently, a few people I know have been stung by it

    Damnit :( Whats it anyway 2 penalty points and an €80 fine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    Damnit :( Whats it anyway 2 penalty points and an €80 fine?

    yep, it still may have been out of film when it flashed you but its definitely in operation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    ..and while we're on the subject, don't forget about those un-unmarked cars that you would never think are populated with traffic division chaps and chapesses- the Subaru Foresters, the Volvo estates, the flamin Saabs & Beemers, not to mention the fact that they're painted colours like red, green, silver:eek: ....all chugging along at 100kms per hour, just waiting for someone to pass them on the wrong side of 120km then bamb- que turbo boast, the hidden flashing blue lights uncloak themselves, and ure a whole lot poorer than you were a few minutes ago....not like the old days when 9 times out of 10, an unmarked garda car meant a light blue cortina or corolla


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Cicero wrote: »
    ..and while we're on the subject, don't forget about those un-unmarked cars that you would never think are populated with traffic division chaps and chapesses- the Subaru Foresters, the Volvo estates, the flamin Saabs & Beemers, not to mention the fact that they're painted colours like red, green, silver:eek: ....all chugging along at 100kms per hour, just waiting for someone to pass them on the wrong side of 120km then bamb- que turbo boast, the hidden flashing blue lights uncloak themselves, and ure a whole lot poorer than you were a few minutes ago....not like the old days when 9 times out of 10, an unmarked garda car meant a light blue cortina or corolla
    They're not hard to spot, what with the lights in the front & rear screens and the strobes on the corners of the front bumpers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    Anan1 wrote: »
    They're not hard to spot, what with the lights in the front & rear screens and the strobes on the corners of the front bumpers.

    ..."not hard to spot"....but usually a little late when ure on the wrong side of 120KM:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭kbell


    The Camera the op refers to is i think the one around Dunleer which covers both lanes.
    If i were travelling at say 115 kph in the left lane at the moment i pass the camera, and at the same time another vehicle doing say 140kph passes me in the right lane causing the camera to flash, how would it know which vehicle was speeding??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭746watts


    Anan1 wrote: »
    They're not hard to spot, what with the lights in the front & rear screens and the strobes on the corners of the front bumpers.

    and some of them have 3 little aerials on the roof as well.........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭746watts


    kbell wrote: »
    The Camera the op refers to is i think the one around Dunleer which covers both lanes.
    If i were travelling at say 115 kph in the left lane at the moment i pass the camera, and at the same time another vehicle doing say 140kph passes me in the right lane causing the camera to flash, how would it know which vehicle was speeding??

    the 2 camera flashes capture the car's position relative to the painted lines on the road and from which the speed is calculated. In the photos your car may have travelled 3 lines distance in the flash intervals whereas the faster car beside you covered 8 lines distance and it gets the fine etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 Imprezaman


    hey anyone know if anpr systems can record speed. and can they do it from a slipway.

    Seen what I can only presume is an unmarked garda car on a slipway with its hazards on. It was the new model focus. Car tore past me on the outside lane. The garda car didnt move so i was wondering does it record speed? If so can it do it from a slipway?

    And if so how does it differentiate the speed between maybe 5 or 6 cars passing it on the motorway? As in who was doing what speed?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭cadaliac


    Imprezaman wrote: »
    hey anyone know if anpr systems can record speed. and can they do it from a slipway.

    Seen what I can only presume is an unmarked garda car on a slipway with its hazards on. It was the new model focus. Car tore past me on the outside lane. The garda car didnt move so i was wondering does it record speed? If so can it do it from a slipway?

    And if so how does it differentiate the speed between maybe 5 or 6 cars passing it on the motorway? As in who was doing what speed?

    You are doomed......

    Just kidding.
    All depends if you saw an arm of the law sticking out the window or not. I would doubt if they detect speed as well, it is possible of course but thats not it's intended function. Also, would the device be legal or not to record speed??
    As I said, possible but I doubt it.
    Btw, the cameras on the motorway can take pictures of 4 lanes of traffic
    simultaneously
    and do all 4 for speeding if need be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 Imprezaman


    sory meant to say it was a civilian car that tore past me.

    The garda car was just sitting up on the slipway hazards on. No garda with his arm out of the window or anything like that. Just wondering if theres a chance that they can catch you without chasing you from up on the slipway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭The-Game


    Imprezaman wrote: »
    sory meant to say it was a civilian car that tore past me.

    The garda car was just sitting up on the slipway hazards on. No garda with his arm out of the window or anything like that. Just wondering if theres a chance that they can catch you without chasing you from up on the slipway

    In that situation they would have to give chase, i dont think the marked Garda cars have cameras mounted like the gatso vans do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭daveharnett


    Anan1 wrote: »
    They're not hard to spot, what with the lights in the front & rear screens and the strobes on the corners of the front bumpers.
    Hmmm. I wonder if there's a market for a 'civilian' ANPR unit with a database of known undercover police cars:D? They would have a slight advantage over the valentine in that they would be legal. For a week or so.

    PATENT PENDING!!


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