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What Media do you trust / rely on ?

  • 27-10-2009 9:34am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭


    With so much going on our media have a pivotal role in informing and encouraging meaningful debate on the issues of the day.

    Some people / media sources have emerged with credit from this ..others ...well have not.

    There is also the divide in the print media between the Broadsheets / Tabloids / Red Tops as well as the "native" media and the Paddy sheets run from the "mainland".

    Radio has the split between RTE and Newstalk / Today FM.


    Who do you rely on to provide good solid impartial comment and analysis on the major issues of the day. ?

    Are the Mainland Paddy papers bursting the cosy relationships with local media and stealing some of their thunder.?

    Hmmmm ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Boards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    RTE is not to be trusted they are in FF's pocket


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    RTE is not to be trusted they are in FF's pocket

    RTE is not to be trusted because they are overtly pro public sector


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    With so much going on our media have a pivotal role in informing and encouraging meaningful debate on the issues of the day.

    Some people / media sources have emerged with credit from this ..others ...well have not.

    There is also the divide in the print media between the Broadsheets / Tabloids / Red Tops as well as the "native" media and the Paddy sheets run from the "mainland".

    Radio has the split between RTE and Newstalk / Today FM.


    Who do you rely on to provide good solid impartial comment and analysis on the major issues of the day. ?

    Are the Mainland Paddy papers bursting the cosy relationships with local media and stealing some of their thunder.?

    Hmmmm ?

    No one singular entity. Go a lot of places for news and somewhere within the different spin and bull**** and endlessly throwing opinion into things you might actually find a few facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭builttospill


    The Irish Times is the only medium I take seriously. The Independent is a rag and the tabloids are just hilarious. When it comes to news on the TV I don't take a blind bit of notice. It's all showbiz. I don't listen to the radio either.

    Boards would be the last place I would consult for real news. Any stories regurgitated from a news item will be sensationalised to the pc max by some 18 year old girl who hasn't left her house in a few weeks cos "the world is a horrible place."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Papers: The Sunday business post/The Examiner.

    TV: TV3

    Radio: Newstalk

    The Irish times is not to be trusted and the Irish independent will improve greatly when dennis o brien gets his hands on it.

    I use to love today FM as well but the crap that comes on around lunchtime made me switch off.

    RTE is a poor broadcaster and overpays its staff. I would happily pay murdoch the extra 10 euro and watch his network or go freeview if it ment i could do away with my licence fee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭GalwayKiefer


    I take from a few sources to be honest, The Irish Times and Examiner usually. The Indo has gone seriously downhill since they introduced the "Metro" version and I'm actually embarrassed to be seen holding anything like the Sun/Star. As for tv, Sky News, in my opinion, has gone the way of Fox News in America. As Dragan said, get info from a few sources and you'll be able to remove most of the slant/spin and get a good idea of what actually happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Radio: Newstalk
    the Irish independent will improve greatly when dennis o brien gets his hands on it..

    It wouldn't be a healthy balance for the Irish market if this were to come to pass. O Brien already controls Newstalk and has a significant holding in other regional media outlets. If he got the Independent as well then impartiality would be diluted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    Few sources. Don't buy any newspapers.

    Usually check out The Irish Times website. RTE website is not great I think. If I find a story I'm interested in, usually google it and check out other sources.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Aidric wrote: »
    It wouldn't be a healthy balance for the Irish market if this were to come to pass. O Brien already controls Newstalk and has a significant holding in other regional media outlets. If he got the Independent as well then impartiality would be diluted.

    I made the comment for the reason to highlight what you have just said. I find it amazing that most people will cop this quite quickly and have not a clue the influence of the dr o reilly in ireland. its amazing how we irish with or stance not wanting to be "british" will trust a knighted doctor over Dennis o reilly.

    But I equally find it interesting how we invite sky into our living room as well. I would love to see Dennis O Brien take over independent newspapers. If they investigate him they might show the level of scandle he has shown in fianna fail and of course Fianna gael and michael lowry

    With Dennis o briens control of newstalk and the Indo he might fianally manage to rid us of the Times and mr norris but knowing this country, I doubt it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    BBC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    irish_bob wrote: »
    RTE is not to be trusted because they are overtly pro public sector

    RTE aren't to be trusted because they don't validate whatever impotent rage I'm currently feeling.


    .. am i doing it right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    I believe none of what I hear and half of what I see....or something like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    The Guardian's pretty reliable...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    None, they're all a dirty bunch of miserable bastards. I have no tv, I listen to cds in the car and never commit the mortal sin of reading any of the newspapers, their all trash.
    My life is so much better for it too, I didn't realise how much until I had to spend a two days sitting in Dublin traffic, I decided to listen to the radio. Two days of country falling into the pits of hell and corrupt politicians. When I got home I was a raging lune, the media had inspired nothing but anger and hatred in me. I don't need to listen to that Shyte, it won't make any difference if I listen to it, the worlds always in a constant state of crisis according to the media they're like headless chickens running around telling everyone the sky is falling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    If I want news, I'll check the BBC website. Other than that, I don't really bother with what's going on in the outside world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Kent Brockman is "The Man", for news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Boards would be the last place I would consult for real news. Any stories regurgitated from a news item will be sensationalised to the pc max by some 18 year old girl who hasn't left her house in a few weeks cos "the world is a horrible place."

    Brummytom is 16 not 18.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    There is no decent news source in Ireland. In this giant race to the bottom of BS sensationalism, even the broadsheets are as unreliable as the red tops.

    I'd read a combo of Irish Times, Examiner, Sunday Indo, Business Post, Sunday Times, but do not take anything that I have read as fact.

    These days, any time I read something in these that I have any factual knowledge of, I can easily spot mistakes/omissions/spin that make an otherwise non-event into an agenda-filled piece of tabloid BS.

    As for RTE, trust me, officially they are trying to stay as unbiased as possible, but there is definitely no pro-FF agenda whatsoever in their reporting. Just because they are doing less FF-bashing than most doesn't make them pro-FF!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    What media do you trust/rely on....good question.

    Bantam's modus operandi is always, I said ,always, look behind the story for the vested interest.

    It will usually be there.

    For instance if some punter comes on defending the Tax Exemption for artists, check his/r background, you will find a connection there somewhere.

    Some geezer defending the 80mm drink laws, check it out, probably owns a pub in Ventry or somewhere.

    Some fooker looking for a scrappage deal for cars, again probably owns a garage in Walkinstown.

    Always look BEHIND to story, John O' Shea will always say the Govt. doesn't contribute enough to overseas aid,he doesn't give a fcuk where it comes from or who loses out, vested interest you see!!

    That's the way the Bantam engorges his news, never take anything at face value, look behind the story or publication, there will always be an agenda.;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭rainbowdrop


    'The Onion' is the only media I trust!!


    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Not RTE anyway.

    I don't really listen to the news, because frankly, I don't care
    much about listening to the latest political scandal/recession.

    Much better to just take it all in it's stride. Things are always ****ed,
    otherwise papers would not be sold. Apathy is the best medicine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    John O' Shea will always say the Govt. doesn't contribute enough to overseas aid,he doesn't give a fcuk where it comes from or who loses out, vested interest you see!!

    Yeah, since joing Man Utd. he's always having a go at the Government.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Usually don't give a crap about the news, tend to hear most interesting/topical things through boards.

    If I feel like checking something, BBC is where I'd go.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    As others have said, an informed individual is one who does not rely upon any one source. Though many outlets may report the same information, they will often do so from differing perspectives. The best way to glean the truth from any situation is to gather all available facts from all sources, disregard opinion (specifically emotive language) and follow the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Verbatim is the only media I truly trust. I use fujifilm for less important stuff. Never trust Maxtor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭BroomBurner


    'The Onion' is the only media I trust!!


    :D

    They have excellent news videos, and Savage Love is the place for advice (sorry PI...).

    Otherwise, the Guardian, the Sunday Tribune, the Sunday Independent, the International Herald Tribune (all websites though, can't be buying papers) and a few others.

    Love the Metro aswell :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    BBC website / 6.00 / ITN 6.25 early evening news on tv do it for me .I sometimes listen to the RTE news on the radio ( 917 Virgin media ) or watch on the website and read the Irish sunday Independent online .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Linku


    The Guardian and the Observer are probably the best newspapers, and The Irish Times is the only Irish paper I'd bother with. A lot of the IT's international content comes from the Guardian anyway.

    BBC News on TV used to be very good, but it's slipped since they renamed from '24', and they're much slower to react to breaking stories than any of the other stations. Wouldn't bother with Sky News ever. The best news programme by far is Channel 4 News.

    None of them are perfect, but you have to be intelligent enough to read between the lines and understand the agenda of each particular company. The BBC, who shouldn't have one, have definitely been reporting with a bias to certain things of late.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭segaBOY


    TV:TV3

    Unless it's improved drastically no way would I trust their tabloid muck. Vincent Browne adds a bit of flare but I would trust RTÉ a lot more than TV3 tbh-and that's saying a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    dotsman wrote: »
    There is no decent news source in Ireland. In this giant race to the bottom of BS sensationalism, even the broadsheets are as unreliable as the red tops.

    I'd read a combo of Irish Times, Examiner, Sunday Indo, Business Post, Sunday Times, but do not take anything that I have read as fact.

    These days, any time I read something in these that I have any factual knowledge of, I can easily spot mistakes/omissions/spin that make an otherwise non-event into an agenda-filled piece of tabloid BS.
    Do you pay for all those papers? If you do your only encouraging that behavior.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    Not the Daily fcuking Mail anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭old boy


    rte are getting kinda selective on what they do not report on the 6 o clock news, the odd snippet gets lost, this evening the story about the sick money claimed by workers in the hse was not reported, are we going down the road of say china, nt korea, iran etc. ever so slightly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭jif


    Do some fuckin travelling and you'll realise how skewed the media really is..
    so NONE OF IT!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    if i remember it after a night on the beer, i believe it. if not, it never happened.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    For Irish affairs I go with RTE. For everything else, I chose the BBC (news website).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    I usually watch the 9pm RTE news, I dont like TV3 news...it's very bubblegum, especially with their 'and finally' stories.

    When around the house during the day I flick between Cnn and BBC news.

    I buy the Sunday Times every week, great value, plenty of reading.I dont buy newspapers during the week anymore, rags galore.

    The Last word on teh wireless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭JangoFett


    My tea leaves

    *checks leaves*

    Yup, the world will end yesterday...what the HELL? WHO'S BEEN SCREWING WITH MY TEA?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    I wouldn't trust any mainstream media in this country after all the bu**s*it propaganda that we got shoved down our throats in the Lisbon referendum, the Irish Times was particularly appalling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Not the Daily fcuking Mail anyways.

    +1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Don't trust many of them.

    The alternative types are worse, likes of Indymedia etc.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    segaBOY wrote: »
    Unless it's improved drastically no way would I trust their tabloid muck. Vincent Browne adds a bit of flare but I would trust RTÉ a lot more than TV3 tbh-and that's saying a lot.

    I agree but over RTE i would take it... Plus its on at 5.30 before in the night garden my son watches at 6 ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    The Herald for their likeable journos and their always relevant and interesting articles!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,461 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    BBC, the Guardian newspaper and Examiner here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I only trust news that has been tweeted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭JIZZLORD


    bbc and the guardian for the world news, the irish times for irish stuff


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