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Bruised rib and Martial Arts training

  • 26-10-2009 12:17pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭


    Hi everyone

    I'm not looking here for a medical advice but just want to know....

    So what would you do if this happened to you

    1) Will you use an elastic bandage(rib belt) to support the rib cage and grit your teeth
    or
    2) you stop training altogether and just waiting for the rib to heal


    Any views on that?

    Thanks


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Stop training and wait for it to heal.

    Injured ribs are no longer strapped up.

    If your very sore some of the lads here, including myself, have found the new Nurofen Gel to be helpful.

    But injured ribs are always gonna be sore and can take a few weeks to completely heal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭wudangclan


    if it´s not too painful i would tend to train through it.
    i couldn´t imagine taking 4 weeks off training.
    it´s different i suppose if you´re doing stand-up or groundwork.
    if any particular exercise is aggravating it,skip it and do something else.
    if you have to spar throw on some body armour and ask your partner to go handy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    wudangclan wrote: »
    if you have to spar throw on some body armour and ask your partner to go handy.


    Has that EVER worked for anyone?.... :D

    Personally I think if your carrying an injury which requires you to ask your partner to go easy, then you really shouldn't be training.

    OP, its really down to your own personal experience.

    Most of us have trained through injuries at one time or another, but some injuries really do require a rest period and in my experience the ribs are one of those injuries - they're just so damned sore :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 007phoenix


    Just been off training for 6 weeks because of it, got it on the floating rib so took ages to heal thought it was broken.
    Diclac gel is the strongest you can get without prescription or go to your Doc and get some difene.
    Sucks but nothing you can do with rib injury just wait until it heals


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    I would echo the sentiment of most of the previous posters and go with option two:

    Rest and stop training.

    Presuming your martial arts training is little more than a very time consuming hobby you're best taking the time off completely and don't do anything to aggravate the injury. Not medical advice but bruised ribs can take anything from weeks to months to heal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    You'd have to be tough as coffin nails to do any sparring/rolling/randori with cracked ribs. I know there's no gain with no pain and all that, but at the end of the day it's just a hobby and there's no way I would be willing to put up with that much grief for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭wudangclan


    going by all your posts i must have only had semi-cracked ribs before.
    still,4 to 6 weeks without training...:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    I cracked a rib a while back by walking onto a sidekick. I took it easy for a week and then did non-contact/traditional forms training until it was better. Nothing incredibly energetic, but enough to stay going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    wudangclan wrote: »
    going by all your posts i must have only had semi-cracked ribs before.
    still,4 to 6 weeks without training...:eek:


    You can still do some training, but if it involves the chance of being slammed into the ground and sat on, I'd rather take a pass.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭YamaMotoYama


    I had 2 cracked ribs last year - I took 3 of weeks off and went back training... while training with someone taking it handy, I got hit and they were worse then ever. I took another 3 weeks off went back and got hit again and was back to square 1.

    I then just took 6 weeks off - and went back fully healed.

    The moral of the story is
    1) I should carry my hands lower. :D
    2) Just rest the ribs - otherwise it takes longer to heal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    Not having had bruised ribs, I can't say for sure but I'd be inclined to train through bruised ribs I think. Cracked/broken ribs would be a different case entirely.

    That said, if you can afford to take the time off from your training and don't feel you'll miss it too much, taking a few weeks off is probably the more sensible option.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    It also depends on how you fight. If your idea of martial arts is get as big as you can and roll up the tank and exchange combos, or immediately engage and struggle for a takedown then take a break. Personally I don’t think much of the war of attrition type martial arts, but in fairness they can work, well at least if the gut you’re fighting is less experienced, weaker, less fit, and shorter.

    If you’re more of a “boxer”, someone who fights with strategic and physical intelligence, then there is no need to stop training. I recall having cracked ribs beneath my shoulder blade with particles of bone impinging on a nerve, it meant I never got more than 1 hour of sleep at a time. Hell for about 3 months, I don’t clearly recall waking up one day and being 100%, so I guess the healing meant a trade between pain tolerance and actual healed ribs.
    Anyway, during that time I could only use my left arm effectively, my right was devoid of power due to the nerve being irritated, and it was some of my most valuable training time ever, I learnt how to set-up /deflect, sieze and throw on the one side with my left arm alone to the extent of being able to win both the British Sanshou Opens, and the Danish Open Chinese Wrestling Championship. For the Danish I weighed in at 81kg and took part in the -90kg event, winning without conceding a point.

    Basically what I’m saying is what level do you want to take your martial arts to? If it’s a hobby that gets you out of the house, then why risk it? And take the other advice posted here, you won’t notice 6 weeks.

    If you intend being a world champion in your discipline, then ask your self would your competition give up? Does 6 weeks on a bench mean a further recovery of strength and sharpness taking another 3 months, are you talking 6 months set-back where your competition is getting better all the time? When’s the competition date?

    From my experience often at the highest levels a victory comes down to intent, not showing the pain and tiredness that is affecting you, to show it will inspire your opponent and give him a second wind, remember he’s probably feeling as Fckd as you are. As such I have always stressed mental toughness to my fighters, in the short term it means never wincing, never showing tiredness, in the long term training through injuries in such a way that they are protected and hidden from your opponent. This has ring relevance aswell obviuosly, should you pick up an injury during a fight. If its an important fight and you can stomock the pain then you will need to be able to adapt. There are no tap outs in the competitions we enter, only knock outs!
    But us Wudang Bstrds are probably crazy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Horioni


    When injured work around it, dont bother sparring until its better, just shadowbox and maybe use hand weights to build up resistance and speed. At the end of the day your a fighter not a Boston Walter!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Horioni wrote: »
    When injured work around it, dont bother sparring until its better, just shadowbox and maybe use hand weights to build up resistance and speed. At the end of the day your a fighter not a Boston Walter!

    Infracted.

    You'll be banned next time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    wudangclan wrote: »
    going by all your posts i must have only had semi-cracked ribs before.
    still,4 to 6 weeks without training...:eek:

    Better to take the 4-6 weeks off then to keep training with it and making it worse then you might be out a hell of alot longer than 4-6 weeks.


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