People have become useless...

the_dark_side

A year ago, there was a phone in on daytime radio; a worker from the St Vincent de Paul said that a lady presented herself looking for food aid.... and she was driving a relatively new BMW.

It turned out that her husband was a developer and that he had bought this for her as a sort of show of strength for his business... a trophy, for want of a better word. Where in reality, his business was a goner... and she couldnt afford to eat, so when he was away, she went in secrecy to the VDP....

I grew a load of vegetables this year on an area the size of an average living room. You can grow potatoes in a 'tyre stack' (theres a good youtube video on this), I also caught a load of makeral this year. People have completely lost the ability to be self suficient.... they have become dependants, through laziness and stupidity. Nobody can seem to do anything for themselves

brummytom

the_dark_side wrote: »

People have completely lost the ability to be self suficient.... they have become dependants, through laziness and stupidity. Nobody can seem to do anything for themselves

'Nanny state'.

People don't have to fend for themselves, so they won't.

Agent Smith

I can sing the entirety of the Pizza Hut song...

soups05

or some of us grew up in a country where you can buy spuds at the local shop.

brummytom

Agent Smith wrote: »

I can sing the entirety of the Pizza Hut song...

I can do the dance.


You sing it, I'll dance?

Sharpshooter

The lady should have been told to sell her trophy BMW and live on the proceeds imo.

Overheal

Im sure if I wanted to go the extra mile I could convert much of my land for farming. But most of it would have to be on the roof. And I'd have to get permission from my HoA. Which I wont get. They wont even let me have DirecTV

jumpguy

Well the modern world has become such is that it's not our job to catch our own food - someone else does it for us. We do our job, it benefits them someway, they do their job (the anglers, farmers etc), it gives us food. People are so used to this system that going out and catching food for yourself is laughed at. As is, actually, going out and getting turf on the bog. Although I'm seeing alot more of that lately with the recession...

If everyone started hunting their own food there'd be no obesity crisis, but there'd also be no food market, one of the biggest markets in the world. Millions would be unemployed. Hence the downfall of society and we all go back to being cavemen/women.

segaBOY

Similar situation in Iceland. There was pictures of brand new shiny Audi Q7s and the like pulling up to a food drive about a year ago.

However, even if you wanted to sell those during Iceland's financial crisis cars you probably couldn't.

leeroybrown

People have always been useless. It's just a case of you noticing it now...

Dudess

Oh for an agrarian utopia - like the former Soviet Union. That would be nice.

Overheal

jumpguy wrote: »

Well the modern world has become such is that it's not our job to catch our own food - someone else does it for us. We do our job, it benefits them someway, they do their job (the anglers, farmers etc), it gives us food. People are so used to this system that going out and catching food for yourself is laughed at. As is, actually, going out and getting turf on the bog. Although I'm seeing alot more of that lately with the recession...

If everyone started hunting their own food there'd be no obesity crisis, but there'd also be no food market, one of the biggest markets in the world. Millions would be unemployed. Hence the downfall of society and we all go back to being cavemen/women.

If you want to look at it from basics up, a one celled organism becomes multi-cell and develops specialized cells which specialize in roles so other cells can specialize in other roles and that pretty much goes on over time until you find yourself here today wondering why some people cant grow a carrot but they know how to balance a ledger.

robbie_998

the_dark_side wrote: »

A year ago, there was a phone in on daytime radio; a worker from the St Vincent de Paul said that a lady presented herself looking for food aid.... and she was driving a relatively new BMW.

thats just being stingy !

how did she get away with that ? could they not just refuse here ?

ronnie3585

Affirmative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1BdQcJ2ZYY

brummytom

Dudess wrote: »

Oh for an agrarian utopia - like the former Soviet Union. That would be nice.

Yeah, farming went really well in the USSR didn't it.

Lenin just loved those kulaks didn't he? :pac:

Latchy

We live in a throw away consumer society were as previous generations would try to fix the wonky tv or bike ,we just go out and buy a new one . Up until the recent downturn in the economy ,materialism was in and while some people values have changed ,there will always be people who grow their own vegtables .

jumpguy

brummytom wrote: »

Yeah, farming went really well in the USSR didn't it.

Lenin just loved those kulaks didn't he? :pac:

I think Dudess was being sarcastic. Like everything with communism, it looked good on paper, but in practice it was a disaster.

It's odd to think the USSR became a superpower...

Jarren

Dudess wrote: »

Oh for an agrarian utopia - like the former Soviet Union. That would be nice.

In a perfect world yes:) , the former USSR oh no:(

brummytom

jumpguy wrote: »

I think Dudess was being sarcastic. Like everything with communism, it looked good on paper, but in practice it was a disaster.

It's odd to think the USSR became a superpower...

Yeah I thought it was.. my reply was meant to be too.

Communism, I believe, would have worked positively had the leaders not been so corrupt/egotistical/powermad.

soups05

wait a minute, this thread is based on a phone in show from a year ago.

so it took you a year to figure out how to post on a/h?


but i'm useless cos i cant grow spuds?



double standard there






(just kidding op)

Sea Sharp

Get with the times. If you want to grow your own food just play Farmville on Facebook. No need to get your hands dirty.

Latchy

GaNjaHaN wrote: »

Get with the times. If you want to grow your own food just play Farmville on Facebook. No need to get your hands dirty.

Does my head in that Farmville ....'' please except a black sheep for your farm '' ...Jeeze :rolleyes:

Sea Sharp

Does my head in that Farmville ....'' please except a black sheep for your farm '' ...Jeeze

lol, but he's lonely because all the other sheep make fun of him for being different. Awwwwwwwwww. :pac:

Multi-colored lost farm animals aside, it's a fun application.

Latchy

GaNjaHaN wrote: »

lol, but he's lonely because all the other sheep make fun of him for being different. Awwwwwwwwww. :pac:

Multi-colored lost farm animals aside, it's a fun application.

Of coure it is .I'm just a lazy farmer :pac:

caseyann

Man Who Gave Up Everything to Live Off the Land: "Living Off the Land Sucks."

Once I turned 30, I felt as though I had come to a crossroads," admitted Higgenbottom. "I wasn't happy with where I was. I needed a new direction."
It was while channel surfing one night after a long day at the office that he found his new inspiration. "I was watching that pioneer challenge show, or whatever it's called, on the Reality Show Network, about a year ago, and I was immediately smitten," explained Higgenbottom. "I thought to myself, "what a perfect way to snap out of my ennui."




http://www.thehammer.ca/content/2004/0430/rugged_outdoors.html

the_dark_side

caseyann wrote: »

Man Who Gave Up Everything to Live Off the Land: "Living Off the Land Sucks."

Once I turned 30, I felt as though I had come to a crossroads," admitted Higgenbottom. "I wasn't happy with where I was. I needed a new direction."
It was while channel surfing one night after a long day at the office that he found his new inspiration. "I was watching that pioneer challenge show, or whatever it's called, on the Reality Show Network, about a year ago, and I was immediately smitten," explained Higgenbottom. "I thought to myself, "what a perfect way to snap out of my ennui."

http://www.thehammer.ca/content/2004/0430/rugged_outdoors.html

the humour is Monty Pythonesque Casyann, if you have ever been to northern Ontario though, I think youd find yourself wanting to stay a while

caseyann

the_dark_side wrote: »

the humour is Monty Pythonesque Casyann, if you have ever been to northern Ontario though, I think youd find yourself wanting to stay a while

Why have you been there?

I know a good few Canadians great people

5starpool

I presume the OP was a big fan of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxtQW2EzRUM

ScumLord

the_dark_side wrote: »

I grew a load of vegetables this year on an area the size of an average living room. You can grow potatoes in a 'tyre stack' (theres a good youtube video on this), I also caught a load of makeral this year. People have completely lost the ability to be self suficient.... they have become dependants, through laziness and stupidity. Nobody can seem to do anything for themselves

jumpguy wrote: »

Well the modern world has become such is that it's not our job to catch our own food - someone else does it for us. We do our job, it benefits them someway, they do their job (the anglers, farmers etc), it gives us food.

There's really no such thing as completely self sufficient human and there hasn't been a history of it going back probably hundreds of thousands of years (Chimps aren't self sufficient either) or at the very least since the dawn of civilization. The only reason we can have a civilized society is because we share out tasks. One person makes the food, another makes the tools and so on. It allows for one particular person to become an expert so that the rest of the heard doesn't need to know anything more about the task than who to speak to. It's what makes us great.

AnonoBoy

I'm not useless I can cook two types of beans. Two types!

jif

yes the world (western anyway) is full of fcukwitts, now get back in line soldier no more of this independant thought more brainwashing for you!

norwegianwood

jumpguy wrote: »

If everyone started hunting their own food there'd be no obesity crisis, but there'd also be no food market, one of the biggest markets in the world. Millions would be unemployed. Hence the downfall of society and we all go back to being cavemen/women.

Reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_rit82QFIw

mathie

the_dark_side wrote: »

A year ago, there was a phone in on daytime radio; a worker from the St Vincent de Paul said that a lady presented herself looking for food aid.... and she was driving a relatively new BMW.

It turned out that her husband was a developer and that he had bought this for her as a sort of show of strength for his business... a trophy, for want of a better word. Where in reality, his business was a goner... and she couldnt afford to eat, so when he was away, she went in secrecy to the VDP....

I grew a load of vegetables this year on an area the size of an average living room. You can grow potatoes in a 'tyre stack' (theres a good youtube video on this), I also caught a load of makeral this year. People have completely lost the ability to be self suficient.... they have become dependants, through laziness and stupidity. Nobody can seem to do anything for themselves

Growing your potatoes from a tyre sack? When I can get them in Dunnes for 99 cent a bag?
Any other money saving tips?

Showering in my own urine to save on electricity?

biko

"Qu'ils mangent de la brioche"

mathie

Magnus wrote: »

"Qu'ils mangent de la brioche"

Sack cake?

Epic Tissue

People aren't useless.

We're amazing.