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Irelands immigration control?

  • 23-10-2009 3:54pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭


    hi guys, i love watching the programme uk border force and it got me thinking..how lenient are they at the airports/ports/borders in terms of letting immigrants in? i know a lot on uk but have no clue about ireland!

    are they strict or what type of things do they do to restrict numbers etc?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    I walked up to the counter and handed them my passport.

    This should be your first indication of how thy handle immigration.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    At worst theyve pulled me aside for not having correct documents (student visa) and told me to at some point make my way to a garda station to get the correct papers, and then ive been sent on my way with a tourist's visa.

    Very relaxed method of border control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I was amazed at the border control last time I flew to Dublin (about February, I think)... everyone just walked through. Not just people flying from EU countrys, but everyone else!

    And the Immigration Officer was Eastern-european.. which I found strange


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    In before Degsy/Nodin debate..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Last time I arrived in Dublin , Gardai at quick glance of passport just waved me and many others through


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    It may appear lax. Maybe we should give them the benefit of any doubt and assume that they are doing their job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    orourkeda wrote: »
    It may appear lax. Maybe we should give them the benefit of any doubt and assume that they are doing their job.

    FF man ? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    Never found official borders of entry lax, not in 10 years. Passports always been thoroughly checked along with ID cards etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    I love the way they hold up the passports and pretend to look at them, some of them have no more interest in looking at them then the man on the moon.

    I flew from Amsterdam to Milan last week and nobody checked our passports in Milan at all. Bit of a strange one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    There have been a few times coming off flights from various places in europe and walked straght out the door along with a majority of non Irish born people. Absolutely no checks whatsoever. When they do check it's a cursory glance at a passport.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Monkey61


    Came over on the bus from England last Christmas eve and as usual the guys get on the bus at Dublin Port to check passports. Heated discussion breaks out with one non-EU guy who doesn't have any identification at all (how he got passed the checks at Holyhead is beyond me). After about 5 minutes - "Ah sure just this once, as it's Christmas we'll let you in."

    Well done Ireland. Way to be taken seriously.

    Also if you were on the run from the law or something equally exciting and for whatever other equally exciting reason wanted to escape to England, it would be pretty easy. (or if you just lost your passport) Half the time they don't really look at your passport getting onto the plane and Gatwick don't check passports of people flying from Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭D-A-V-E


    most of the stories here are for travelling, anyone know what its like for people wanting to live in ireland from eu and africa and asia etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Latchy wrote: »
    Last time I arrived in Dublin , Gardai at quick glance of passport just waved me and many others through

    you too?

    Dam. i thought it was because they recognised me as snyper from boards

    ego deflated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Northern Ireland is a big problem I think. To appease unionists restrictions are lax travelling from GB, to appease nationalists restrictions are lax along the border.

    Somehow methinks we got the short end of the stick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    snyper wrote: »
    you too?

    Dam. i thought it was because they recognised me as snyper from boards

    ego deflated
    Unless they are looking for specific persons ,as far as the gaurds are concerned , we are all just sheep passing through the gate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭delta720


    I flew from Amsterdam to Milan last week and nobody checked our passports in Milan at all. Bit of a strange one.

    This is due to the Schengen Agreement, so no passport or form of id is required. Ireland only applies some of the laws within that treaty. This is because the uk did not accept it so if we did we'd have to produce a passport every time we crossed the Northern Ireland border.

    Also considering there is free movement within the EU gaurds checking passports is only a formality for european flights, hence the quick glance. However if things dont look right it can become alot more very fast, a friend of mine who is very tanned got pulled because he didnt look like himself in the picture, though once they heard his accent it was all good!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    D-A-V-E wrote: »
    most of the stories here are for travelling, anyone know what its like for people wanting to live in ireland from eu and africa and asia etc?

    Yes, a pain in the ass and a bureaucratic nightmare of colossal proportions at first. Mere irritating formalities thereafter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    delta720 wrote: »
    This is due to the Schengen Agreement, so no passport or form of id is required. Ireland only applies some of the laws within that treaty. This is because the uk did not accept it so if we did we'd have to produce a passport every time we crossed the Northern Ireland border.

    Also considering there is free movement within the EU gaurds checking passports is only a formality for european flights, hence the quick glance. However if things dont look right it can become alot more very fast, a friend of mine who is very tanned got pulled because he didnt look like himself in the picture, though once they heard his accent it was all good!

    meah, they do the same on US flights. Most of my flights are from the US, they only glance.

    I remember they went on strike.. what was they're strike?? CHECKING PASSPORTS! (Slowed down traffic)

    Only in Ireland, can you strike by doing your job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,961 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I've been on Bus Eireann/Ulster Bus buses that were stopped by gardai by the border close to Newry. It's happened a few times
    Everyone asked for ID. Some didn't have ID but that was ok, they just asked your name and home address. I suppose if they were satisfied you were Irish/British they asked no more questions

    Of course a Filipino couple were working in Northern Ireland and explained they were going to fly from Dublin somewhere, possibly home.
    They were taken off the bus, I assume to Dundalk garda station.

    So my only impression was they were strict.
    Though this was 2004 so a while ago.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    This post has been deleted.
    Same as myself .I think Snyper is sorry he wasn't recognised stopped on entering Dublin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭donmeister


    TBH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,961 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    This post has been deleted.
    Yeah , it's a relief just to get through any passport control :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭dyl10


    I went to the states last year.
    Strolled through immigration in both countries without answering a question, while in both countries I saw older couples and black people taking a grilling.

    I think your appearance is the first thing to set off alarm bells.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭segaBOY


    dyl10 wrote: »
    I went to the states last year.
    Strolled through immigration in both countries without answering a question, while in both countries I saw older couples and black people taking a grilling.

    I think your appearance is the first thing to set off alarm bells.

    A friend of mine is from Galway. He's a bit more tanned than other Irish people as a lot of natives from Galway/Connemara are (one reason could be that they may be related to the crew on the Spanish Armada and all that), he always gets his passport scrutinised by border officials while everyone else is waved through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    flying to UK last week they only asked for boarding card on the way in through Stansted. pretty lax altogether


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Once they see my blue passport at shannon they usually call me over, but otherwise its just walk on through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    dyl10 wrote: »
    I went to the states last year.
    Strolled through immigration in both countries without answering a question, while in both countries I saw older couples and black people taking a grilling.

    I think your appearance is the first thing to set off alarm bells.

    I'm sure in the US they still finger printed and photographed you and asked your purpose of visit and how long etc. That's standard practice for US border control.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    its not that lax, don't forget the texas students that got sent back http://ca-es.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=104195791972


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    segaBOY wrote: »
    A friend of mine is from Galway. He's a bit more tanned than other Irish people as a lot of natives from Galway/Connemara are (one reason could be that they may be related to the crew on the Spanish Armada and all that), he always gets his passport scrutinised by border officials while everyone else is waved through.

    The crews from the Spanish Armada were swiftly executed.
    There is a cemetery by the docks where you can view a memorial to 300 sailors who were beheaded.

    But I agree with you, there are many, many people in Galway with Spanish blood. From traders and merchants though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    Irish immigration. How a ya?
    Me. How a ya.
    Irish immigration. G'wan.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    ...nobody checked our passports in Milan at all.
    Last time I flew Milano, they checked me out and ignored my passport and luggage... :o


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