Ruling Required or advice

Shuffles

A ball lies 1/3 submerged in the water a couple of inches into a hazard. It looks as if it could be played out!!

Jean van De Velde thought the same....

For a right hander he will be standing knee deep to play it. However.......... he has a left hander playing with him. A left handed swing will mean standing on dry land. Is it in the rules of golf to buy a club from the left hander to use. Is there any way around it staying obviously within the rules?

Goodluck2me

Is there not a rule that you must declare all of your clubs at the start of each round and use that for the whole course? Otherwise you'd use 30 clubs for 17 holes and ditch(sell) them for the last hole?

It doesn't sound legit anyway, and that as a general rule is a good boundry to stay within.

soundsham

if he was your playing partner and you had room for a club, I think you may use it, but once you do he can no longer us it in the round.........shot in the dark

fullstop

You can use it as long as you have less than 14 clubs in the bag, but once you use it, he may not use it again AFAIK.

PhilipMarlowe

If he was your partner (in a team) then you could borrow a club so long as the total between you was 14 or less (very unlikely scenario).
When you start a round, you are stuck with what you have. However you can add clubs assuming that you started with less than 14 and you can't delay play.
However, "the player must not add or borrow any club selected for play by any other person playing on the course".

G1032

soundsham wrote: »

if he was your playing partner and you had room for a club, I think you may use it, but once you do he can no longer us it in the round.........shot in the dark

If you use your partners clubs you cannot then have more than 14 clubs between you.

G1032

Licksy wrote: »

However you can add clubs assuming that you started with less than 14 and you can't delay play.

AFAIK if you do add clubs during the round you cannot leave the course yourself in order to get the extra club/clubs. I think somebody has to bring the club to you?? Is this correct?

PhilipMarlowe

Delaying play is the key here I guess Rule (6-7)

G1032

Licksy wrote: »

Delaying play is the key here I guess Rule (6-7)

Licksy,
I've just been looking at the rules book and decisions book. It's confusing to say the least, specifically rule 6-8 and decisions on same.

Look at this:
Rule 6-8a
The player must not discontinue play unless:
(i) the Committee has suspended play;
(ii) he believes there is danger from lightning;
(iii) he is seeking a decision from the Committee on a doubtful or disputed point (see Rules 2-5 and 34-3); or
(iv) there is some other good reason such as sudden illness.

Penatly in strokeplay is disqualification.

But then it goes on to say the following:
Note: Leaving the course does not of itself constitute discontinuance of play.

And then............!!!
In the decisions book the following scenario is addressed

Q: In stroke play, a group went into the clubhouse after nine holes and watched the final round of a golf tournament on television for 45 minutes. Then the group resumed play. Should the members of the group be penalised under Rule
6-7 (Undue Delay) or Rule 6-8 (Discontinuance of Play)?

A: The competitors should be disqualified under Rule 6-8a.

So my question is the following: If leaving the course does not of itself constitute discontinuance of play they why are the players in the above scenario getting disqualified for discontinuance of play? How long must one have left the course for it to be classed as discontinuance of play??

Hope all that makes sense...........

FlutterinBantam

I assume leaving the course "of itself" means that you wont be disqual per se for leaving the course. eg going to your car for a fresh glove and only taking a few seconds to do this.

G1032

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

I assume leaving the course "of itself" means that you wont be disqual per se for leaving the course. eg going to your car for a fresh glove and only taking a few seconds to do this.

Thats what i'm trying to find out. I have always been told, and have always been of the belief that you cannot leave the course during a round.

G1032

Licksy wrote: »

Delaying play is the key here I guess Rule (6-7)

If your playing partners agree to let the group behind through while you go to your car to get a club are your actions then defined as causing undue delay?