England to spend £200 million a year on internet surveillance

Run_to_da_hills

Even though its in the Daily Mail I would well believe it, after all its the very same country that has introduced other draconian " anti terrorism measures" such as EMail, text message, digital data retention and storage.

State bodies including councils are already making one request every minute to spy on the phone records and email accounts of members of the public.

You can be damn sure that the same effort put into UK internet surveillance will also be spent right across the EU board when if Tony Blair takes helm of the EU presidency. :eek:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221839/State-spying-cost-200m-year-track-online-move.html

meglome

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You can be damn sure that the same effort put into UK internet surveillance will also be spent right across the EU board when if Tony Blair takes helm of the EU presidency. :eek:

I don't know if the amount is correct nor do I know if Tony Blair will be President of the European Council (again). One thing is for sure the role of President of the European Council is not a position that entails any real powers so either way no one has to worry about that.

weiss

i wouldnt worry about it RTH, ireland couldn't afford a system like this.
it's only a banana republic run by corrupt regime of FF gangsters..something to help us all sleep better at night..

Run_to_da_hills

weiss wrote: »

i wouldn't worry about it RTH, Ireland couldn't afford a system like this.
it's only a banana republic run by corrupt regime of FF gangsters..something to help us all sleep better at night..

I would be very concerned,i am sure all this information gathered would be at the disposal of the authorities right across the EU and even the US. We all know how the UK has cooperated with the US in these matters.

Anything you ordered on line, websites you browsed, emails you received etc could be used against you as evidence against you or even used to prevent you from entering a country. With Eborders and smart card ID on the horizon this will all become more transparent.

robtri

Ok Lads is it just me here or what.... I come to the CT forum expecting to see CT's, but in my mind I am not seeing them a lot...

The UK Government, come out and say they are going to spend 200 million a year recording your every click on the internet, so its available to all departments when needed....
whatever peoples opinions are on whether this is right or wrong, where's the CT???
Surley this is more suited to the political forum??

minus the usual overkill picture....

Stainless_Steel

robtri wrote: »

Ok Lads is it just me here or what.... I come to the CT forum expecting to see CT's, but in my mind I am not seeing them a lot...

The UK Government, come out and say they are going to spend 200 million a year recording your every click on the internet, so its available to all departments when needed....
whatever peoples opinions are on whether this is right or wrong, where's the CT???
Surley this is more suited to the political forum??

minus the usual overkill picture....

Emmm....guess it all fits into the NWO/Illuminati/World Control/Police State group of conspiricies? So the conspiracy would be - what are the real motives of the UK government in recording and monitoring internet usage?

robtri

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

Emmm....guess it all fits into the NWO/Illuminati/World Control/Police State group of conspiricies? So the conspiracy would be - what are the real motives of the UK government in recording and monitoring internet usage?

that is one possible idea, but the OP never raised that...
he just came out with some political information... never raised anything about a CT... or discussed it....

so are we, all just to guess at wht the CT is here or what is my point..

Gordon

That's Britain btw, not just England.

Run_to_da_hills

Gordon wrote: »

That's Britain btw, not just England.

I would put Ireland, the rest of Europe and the States into the equation. The UK and USA are heading down the road of wanting to know everyones religion, medical history, criminal record, earnings, political objectives and interests etc before they set foot their country. What would be the point of having several different international databases when a shared database would be sufficient.

Tyrant^

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/10/22/cia_invests_in_software_firm_monitoring


"CIA Invests in Software Firm Monitoring Blogs, Twitter
Visibletech-web

Wired magazine has revealed the investment arm of the Central Intelligence Agency has invested in a software firm called Visible Technologies that specializes in monitoring social media sites, including blogs, Flickr, YouTube, Twitter and Amazon. Wired reporter Noah Shachtman writes, “America’s spy agencies want to read your blog posts, keep track of your Twitter updates—even check out your book reviews on Amazon.” [includes rush transcript]"

The crack-down has started on the interweb.

meglome

Tyrant^ wrote: »

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/10/22/cia_invests_in_software_firm_monitoring


"CIA Invests in Software Firm Monitoring Blogs, Twitter
Visibletech-web

Wired magazine has revealed the investment arm of the Central Intelligence Agency has invested in a software firm called Visible Technologies that specializes in monitoring social media sites, including blogs, Flickr, YouTube, Twitter and Amazon. Wired reporter Noah Shachtman writes, “America’s spy agencies want to read your blog posts, keep track of your Twitter updates—even check out your book reviews on Amazon.” [includes rush transcript]"

The crack-down has started on the interweb.

Do people really think things they say openly on the internet are private? Is anyone that naive?

studiorat

meglome wrote: »

Do people really think things they say openly on the internet are private? Is anyone that naive?

Obviously some are. The fact that people are using the very same internet to publish their stories about the secret conspiracies they have uncovered is rather ironic I think.

meglome

studiorat wrote: »

Obviously some are. The fact that people are using the very same internet to publish their stories about the secret conspiracies they have uncovered is rather ironic I think.

Irony is not everyone's friend.

I'm no supporter of the CIA but if you're checking on people making threats against your country a good place to start would be to trawl the internet.

derry

yeah well from day one on the net I never give my real name unless it absolutly needed like buying a airline ticket.
I surf from the wifi from library or internet cafe or from my pay as you go 3 dongle 3g stick which is registered in afake name and address.I dont use face book or put my mug on the net not even with a camera to talk with skype
My pay as you go mobile 3 service which can also do skype or even be a dongle for my net book cost me 10 euroes per month and gets well used in skype call all over europe and the world or my cheaper talking service 10c per minute pay as you go Tesco mobile are all in fake names .I figure also I change my emails every year or so so its difficult but not impossible to see what I do.For sensitive info I send it broken into part so from several emails.
Its great giving big brother a hard time trying to figure out my pretty mundane life but I have no illusions having worked in Germany the feckers are looking everything you do.


Derry

getz

derry wrote: »

yeah well from day one on the net I never give my real name unless it absolutly needed like buying a airline ticket.
I surf from the wifi from library or internet cafe or from my pay as you go 3 dongle 3g stick which is registered in afake name and address.I dont use face book or put my mug on the net not even with a camera to talk with skype
My pay as you go mobile 3 service which can also do skype or even be a dongle for my net book cost me 10 euroes per month and gets well used in skype call all over europe and the world or my cheaper talking service 10c per minute pay as you go Tesco mobile are all in fake names .I figure also I change my emails every year or so so its difficult but not impossible to see what I do.For sensitive info I send it broken into part so from several emails.
Its great giving big brother a hard time trying to figure out my pretty mundane life but I have no illusions having worked in Germany the feckers are looking everything you do.


Derry

so....just what are you hiding ? expect a knock on your door soon

thecommander

derry wrote: »

yeah well from day one on the net I never give my real name unless it absolutly needed like buying a airline ticket.
I surf from the wifi from library or internet cafe or from my pay as you go 3 dongle 3g stick which is registered in afake name and address.I dont use face book or put my mug on the net not even with a camera to talk with skype
My pay as you go mobile 3 service which can also do skype or even be a dongle for my net book cost me 10 euroes per month and gets well used in skype call all over europe and the world or my cheaper talking service 10c per minute pay as you go Tesco mobile are all in fake names .I figure also I change my emails every year or so so its difficult but not impossible to see what I do.For sensitive info I send it broken into part so from several emails.
Its great giving big brother a hard time trying to figure out my pretty mundane life but I have no illusions having worked in Germany the feckers are looking everything you do.


Derry

You're name isn't Derry?

Slugs

derry wrote: »

yeah well from day one on the net I never give my real name unless it absolutly needed like buying a airline ticket.
I surf from the wifi from library or internet cafe or from my pay as you go 3 dongle 3g stick which is registered in afake name and address.I dont use face book or put my mug on the net not even with a camera to talk with skype
My pay as you go mobile 3 service which can also do skype or even be a dongle for my net book cost me 10 euroes per month and gets well used in skype call all over europe and the world or my cheaper talking service 10c per minute pay as you go Tesco mobile are all in fake names .I figure also I change my emails every year or so so its difficult but not impossible to see what I do.For sensitive info I send it broken into part so from several emails.
Its great giving big brother a hard time trying to figure out my pretty mundane life but I have no illusions having worked in Germany the feckers are looking everything you do.


Derry

Very Careful, but always remember, privacy on the internet, no matter how "safe" you think you are, is an illusion, given 3 pieces of information, I could find out all I needed to know about you, if I had the time, and cared enough to do so. :P

DigiGal

I hear England is thee most watched country in the world in the sense of a 1984 big brother type of thing

Amberman

Slugs wrote: »

Very Careful, but always remember, privacy on the internet, no matter how "safe" you think you are, is an illusion, given 3 pieces of information, I could find out all I needed to know about you, if I had the time, and cared enough to do so. :P

I'd like to put that to the test.

I own blue jeans, have blonde hair and am in my 30's.

Knock yourself out.

Slugs

Barry is it amberman?

Amberman

Slugs wrote: »

Barry is it amberman?

I'm very impressed. Now I'm gonna google stalk you. Just joking.

Funny thing...Google stalking. Thankfully, I've got nothing to hide, unlike this moron.

Slugs

I dunno what I find as funnier, the fact that I actually managed to find you, or the fact I did it in less then 3 minutes. Not trying to sound like a smart ****, but I did ^^ :P

So much for the whole time commitment thing

meglome

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You can be damn sure that the same effort put into UK internet surveillance will also be spent right across the EU board when if Tony Blair takes helm of the EU presidency. :eek:

So the conspiracy falls down yet again. I'm shocked.