Papist Taliban.

studiorat

http://www.legatus.org/public/MemCriteria.asp

Get a load of these sinister fwckers.

Full membership of Legatus is open only to the top executives of organisations with at least 30 employees - or ten employees and a $1 million (e870,720) annual payroll. Intermediate membership is open to senior executives of companies with 22 employees or a $750,000 (e653,010) annual payroll. Other Catholics - regardless of their social status or wealth - are not entitled to join

Legatus is headed up in Ireland by Mr. Garreth Kelleher who owns Shelbourne Development, a property company with properties all over the globe. Not least the building in Brussells in which Libertas etc had their offices. He was also in the news in the states for the financial disaster that is the Chicago Spire.

the Chicago Spire project has once again run into problems. Despite being able to sell the two-story penthouse, money woes have impacted the Spire such that earlier this fall construction on the building was halted. Now comes word that the world's economic crisis may have an even bigger impact than previously thought. The new problem involves the bank crisis in Ireland where Anglo Irish Bank Corp. is about to be nationalized to avoid collapse. Anglo Irish Bank happens to be the main lender for the Spire's developer, Garrett Kelleher, executive chairman of Shelbourne Development Ltd.

[Kelleher] used private funding assurances from Anglo Irish to persuade Mayor Daley's administration to grant zoning approval for the project in 2007. Kelleher had said Anglo Irish's commitment was almost open-ended and required no threshold of condominium sales before it would underwrite construction.

Property records show Shelbourne has drawn $69.5 million from Anglo Irish for the early stages of construction at 400 N. Lake Shore Drive. But work has been stopped, and Shelbourne has been hit with several liens from contractors -- including one from his own celebrity architect, Santiago Calatrava. Though the building has been marketed almost as a Calatrava artwork, the architect alleges Kelleher owes him $11.34 million.

Sources said Kelleher has been seeking other investors, either in debt or equity positions, to help get construction restarted. But the world's financial crisis has dried up the supply of money looking for speculative investments.

http://chicagoist.com/2008/12/26/more_p ... _spire.php

a local public tv programme had a segment on the Spire tonight. The guest said that the project has been put on hold indefinitely.
The reasons given were 1) the collapse of the condo market in the downtown area. 2) the "scandal at the Irish bank" and 3) the liens placed on the project by contractors including the architecht.

http://www.wttw.com/main.taf?p=42,8,4&v ... 22908b.flv

Guess who's going to pay for this?

robindch

Don't quite see what this has to do with A+A, but let's see where it goes for the time being.

Dades

I'll grant you Mr. Kelleher hardly an example of Christian values.

Interestingly, Dublin has only one of three International Chapters (with Poland and Canada) compared to dozens in the US.

Though tbh I wouldn't go labeling them the Papist Taliban without knowing anything about what they actually do from day day. Maybe the rest of them aren't so hypocritical.

5uspect

Has anyone heard of the new Michael Moore movie?

In it he's pointing out that the much beloved Capitalism of the Christian Right is anything but Christian. I'm no fan of Moore but he does seem to have a point.
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2009-10-11-michael-moores-anticapitalist-crusade

studiorat

It's a group of Catholic Business people who's two criteria for Joining are 1) being Catholic and 2) being filthy rich.

It's about certain Christian elites trying to undermine one of the corner-stones of the Irish Constitution, namely the division between church and state.

Kelleher is the Irish head of Legatus. Also sits on the Board of Regents of Ave Maria University in Florida, a catholic madras if ever there was one.

Kelleher's wife also sits on the Board of the Iona institute along with many other of this countrys Catholic Elite.

I'm talking about scarey people like Crispin Odey, the hedge fund manager who made a fortune short selling Anglo Irish shares for example who has funded Libertas and the Uk Christian Party who's goal is to bring religion back into politics....

Zillah

5uspect wrote: »

Has anyone heard of the new Michael Moore movie?

In it he's pointing out that the much beloved Capitalism of the Christian Right is anything but Christian. I'm no fan of Moore but he does seem to have a point.
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2009-10-11-michael-moores-anticapitalist-crusade

That's the thing about Moore; he always has a very good point. Often genuinely meaningful social commentary, which he then drags through the mud with his obnoxious, hamfisted and tendentious approach. I always get quite irritated when a documentary can't give the issue an even hand. A couple days ago I watched a very interesting documentary called The War on Democracy which was about the US' meddling in Latin America during the latter half of the 20th century. Could have been a truly great documentary if the director/presenter could treat the people they disagree with with a little respect, instead of literally scoffing and making sarcastic "hmmmm" noises when they're speaking. Have a little dignity. If you're so sure of your position against these people then give them a chance to represent their side of things without your unprofessional petulance.

Petulance is a great word

Panrich

I've just spent the last two hours on the politics.ie website looking at posts around Libertas/Legatus/COIR etc. I was niaive enough to think that if sinister forces were around that I would hear about them through mainstream media.
I wondered where funding for this bullsh1t came from during the Lisbon campaign but there are many links over there to the policies espoused by these organisations and their reprehensible backers. Even after Lisbon, they have not retreated back to the sewers. I had a newspaper on the mat when I came home from work the other day called 'Alive'. It would be comical if they weren't serious. I wouldn't even risk recycling it in case it fell into gullible hands.